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Advice on refridgeration unit please
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:45:54 +0000, Larry wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in reasolutions: So, we should just go for it? Just because someone else is doing something wrong does not give us license to do something wrong. - We Americans stopped using R-12, by law, years ago. The ozone hole over ANTARCTICA on the OTHER end of the planet has gotten LARGER because it's caused by SOLAR ACTIVITY, not humans who are the most insignificant speck in the astronomical size of everything else. I bet of we bring back R-12 (and drop the price from $10/12oz back to 68c/16oz) the ozone hole over Antarctica will go on doing exactly whatit has been doing for a few million years before Americans were invented to blame it on.....the natural patsies. Hell, it wasn't the R12 anyway. It was hair spray. --Vic |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
This is one of the points that really makes me wonder about how sensible the current U.S. Government is. I, just a guy who reads, with no mammoth CIA/NSA/Whatever to do my research knew long before even Iraq I that the country was artificially created and contained several groups that hated each other and probably was ungovernable by any other means then brute force (much like Yugoslavia) and once the strong central government fell there would be chaos. And, surprise, surprise, I was right. But, and this is my point, if I could figure this out why couldn't the whole U.S. Government with their mammoth intelligence gathering and analyzing capability figure it out? And if they could figure it out then what are they doing there? And don't talk about "control of the oil" as that is just B.S. The existing Iraqi oil fields are all produced by joint ventures with European companies - Italian and French if memory serves. Rant OFF Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Too bad Bush never read T E Lawrence's "Seven Pillars of Wisdom". He might have thought twice, but then again probably not. “All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. LAWRENCE G |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
... On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:44:34 +1000, Herodotus wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:42:41 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:19:52 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Larry" wrote in message 53... Bruce in Bangkok wrote in : Since here in Thailand, and probably all over the third world, they are happily using R-12, and dumping it to atmosphere it probably goes to prove that the Americans were responsible. Not to mention the extensive air pollution controls on all those thousands of 2-stroke little trucks running old motor oil at 15:1 premix.... It's those damned Americans....every time. They love to be blamed. So, we should just go for it? Just because someone else is doing something wrong does not give us license to do something wrong. Then what are you doing in Iraq? Sorry the temptation overcame me. It's a great temptation to lump all Americans with Bu****, so I forgive you! I find it ironic.. the "surge" is working by driving the terrorists to Afganistan. If we had gone after them in that place first... sigh, you're right it's tempting. I must have missed something. Have they found oil in Afghanistan? I for one am interested in the outcome as historically nobody from outside has managed to completely conquer and rule that country from Alexander, the British, to the Russians. If you have ever experienced the tribal nature of most of its citizens you would understand more the difficulties. Xenophobia is in the genes. Peter This is one of the points that really makes me wonder about how sensible the current U.S. Government is. I, just a guy who reads, with no mammoth CIA/NSA/Whatever to do my research knew long before even Iraq I that the country was artificially created and contained several groups that hated each other and probably was ungovernable by any other means then brute force (much like Yugoslavia) and once the strong central government fell there would be chaos. And, surprise, surprise, I was right. But, and this is my point, if I could figure this out why couldn't the whole U.S. Government with their mammoth intelligence gathering and analyzing capability figure it out? And if they could figure it out then what are they doing there? And don't talk about "control of the oil" as that is just B.S. The existing Iraqi oil fields are all produced by joint ventures with European companies - Italian and French if memory serves. Rant OFF Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Because the Administration had an agenda that didn't have anything to do with reality. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:45:54 +0000, Larry wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in areasolutions: So, we should just go for it? Just because someone else is doing something wrong does not give us license to do something wrong. - We Americans stopped using R-12, by law, years ago. The ozone hole over ANTARCTICA on the OTHER end of the planet has gotten LARGER because it's caused by SOLAR ACTIVITY, not humans who are the most insignificant speck in the astronomical size of everything else. I bet of we bring back R-12 (and drop the price from $10/12oz back to 68c/16oz) the ozone hole over Antarctica will go on doing exactly whatit has been doing for a few million years before Americans were invented to blame it on.....the natural patsies. Hell, it wasn't the R12 anyway. It was hair spray. --Vic The movie? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
citizens: I know a few Australians from either the N. Territories or W.A. who were raised in the outback. The nicest, helpful, friendly folk you ever want to meet. and then there are the ones from sidney and the other "civilized" places.... Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) My sentiments entirely. Sydneyites seem to equate sophistication with rudeness and a "#$%# (4 lettered word, meaning intercourse, second letter is a vowel and the last letter is k) you" attitude. Mebournians and Brisbanites don't seem to be on the same plane. Peter No Bruce. That is NOT the word. Go wash your mouth out with soap. The word I intended was 'Aunt" You have a seweratious mind. cheers Peter |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:16:34 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:27:22 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: Ah, you were talking about the U.S. military base. I knew people who were stationed there years ago and they liked it very much. Probably wouldn't like it so well today. Well, when I stopped there in '66 or so, it went right to the top of my "Places to Never Visit Again" list. Luckily the Navy cooperated. --Vic I can understand that. A bit like L.A. Peter |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:21:05 -0700, Gordon wrote:
Bruce in Bangkok wrote: This is one of the points that really makes me wonder about how sensible the current U.S. Government is. I, just a guy who reads, with no mammoth CIA/NSA/Whatever to do my research knew long before even Iraq I that the country was artificially created and contained several groups that hated each other and probably was ungovernable by any other means then brute force (much like Yugoslavia) and once the strong central government fell there would be chaos. And, surprise, surprise, I was right. But, and this is my point, if I could figure this out why couldn't the whole U.S. Government with their mammoth intelligence gathering and analyzing capability figure it out? And if they could figure it out then what are they doing there? And don't talk about "control of the oil" as that is just B.S. The existing Iraqi oil fields are all produced by joint ventures with European companies - Italian and French if memory serves. Rant OFF Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Too bad Bush never read T E Lawrence's "Seven Pillars of Wisdom". He might have thought twice, but then again probably not. “All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. LAWRENCE G Bush can read? OK, OK, it was a cheap shot. Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:27:54 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:44:34 +1000, Herodotus wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:42:41 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message m... On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:19:52 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Larry" wrote in message . 253... Bruce in Bangkok wrote in : Since here in Thailand, and probably all over the third world, they are happily using R-12, and dumping it to atmosphere it probably goes to prove that the Americans were responsible. Not to mention the extensive air pollution controls on all those thousands of 2-stroke little trucks running old motor oil at 15:1 premix.... It's those damned Americans....every time. They love to be blamed. So, we should just go for it? Just because someone else is doing something wrong does not give us license to do something wrong. Then what are you doing in Iraq? Sorry the temptation overcame me. It's a great temptation to lump all Americans with Bu****, so I forgive you! I find it ironic.. the "surge" is working by driving the terrorists to Afganistan. If we had gone after them in that place first... sigh, you're right it's tempting. I must have missed something. Have they found oil in Afghanistan? I for one am interested in the outcome as historically nobody from outside has managed to completely conquer and rule that country from Alexander, the British, to the Russians. If you have ever experienced the tribal nature of most of its citizens you would understand more the difficulties. Xenophobia is in the genes. Peter This is one of the points that really makes me wonder about how sensible the current U.S. Government is. I, just a guy who reads, with no mammoth CIA/NSA/Whatever to do my research knew long before even Iraq I that the country was artificially created and contained several groups that hated each other and probably was ungovernable by any other means then brute force (much like Yugoslavia) and once the strong central government fell there would be chaos. And, surprise, surprise, I was right. But, and this is my point, if I could figure this out why couldn't the whole U.S. Government with their mammoth intelligence gathering and analyzing capability figure it out? And if they could figure it out then what are they doing there? And don't talk about "control of the oil" as that is just B.S. The existing Iraqi oil fields are all produced by joint ventures with European companies - Italian and French if memory serves. Rant OFF Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Because the Administration had an agenda that didn't have anything to do with reality. I agree but WHAT was the agenda? Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:58:20 +1000, Herodotus
wrote: citizens: I know a few Australians from either the N. Territories or W.A. who were raised in the outback. The nicest, helpful, friendly folk you ever want to meet. and then there are the ones from sidney and the other "civilized" places.... Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) My sentiments entirely. Sydneyites seem to equate sophistication with rudeness and a "#$%# (4 lettered word, meaning intercourse, second letter is a vowel and the last letter is k) you" attitude. Mebournians and Brisbanites don't seem to be on the same plane. Peter No Bruce. That is NOT the word. Go wash your mouth out with soap. The word I intended was 'Aunt" You have a seweratious mind. cheers Peter Peter, Peter... sophomoric Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
Advice on refridgeration unit please
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:45:54 +0000, Larry wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in reasolutions: So, we should just go for it? Just because someone else is doing something wrong does not give us license to do something wrong. - We Americans stopped using R-12, by law, years ago. The ozone hole over ANTARCTICA on the OTHER end of the planet has gotten LARGER because it's caused by SOLAR ACTIVITY, not humans who are the most insignificant speck in the astronomical size of everything else. I bet of we bring back R-12 (and drop the price from $10/12oz back to 68c/16oz) the ozone hole over Antarctica will go on doing exactly whatit has been doing for a few million years before Americans were invented to blame it on.....the natural patsies. Larry, Larry, Without Americans, how could anyone ever chant "Yankee go home" (but leave your money and Coca-Cola). Be reasonable man! If they weren't blaming you then they might pick on little old God's own - New Zealand. Besides, how can you help but be picked on. Look at what your system raised as a president. Love those Yanks. Keep 'em coming Peter |
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