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Yes, I do too.

"Gualtier Malde" wrote in message
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Garland Gray II wrote:

Ha, I was a little slow to get that one!
I always used ss until I saw what it does to galvanized chain.
I had never seen a black plastic one until a few hours ago! A friend had
bought an anchor line on ebay, and I noticed it in his truck. Only id

was
Taiwan, but was a nice thimble w/ straps.


For that reason, I use galvanized thimbles on anchor rode.




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Actually, the anchor line was never the intended use.

"Steve" wrote in message
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Seriously, what is wrong with a good quality galvinized thimble in you
anchor rode??

Admittedly there are some really carpy import galvinized but what I have
seen at WM were good hot dipped.. Should last as long as the galvinizing

on
your chain..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




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Actually, the anchor line was never the intended use.

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Seriously, what is wrong with a good quality galvinized thimble in you
anchor rode??

Admittedly there are some really carpy import galvinized but what I have
seen at WM were good hot dipped.. Should last as long as the galvinizing

on
your chain..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




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Yes, I've seen the too. And thanks for the website. I've saved it.
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
For the smaller sizes, i've seen cast thimbles which were solid and bored

3/8"
or so for a shackle pin. I think I got 'em from sailmakers.

See also

http://www.multihullboatbuilder.com/...icshrouds.html



Garland Gray II wrote:

Good point.
I may end up w/ss for this. I want to replace my lifelines with Amsteel.
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
I recollect learning that only cast thimbles or heavy galvanized

thimbles
were
generally stiff enough not to deform when loaded to a nylon or dacron

rope's
full safe working load. Stainless ones were second place and plastic

a
distant
third. Ask a competent rigger before using a plastic thimble in a

line
that's
to carrry any significant load.

Ron Magen wrote:

Garland,
I've seen them quite consistently at West Marine {all over}. I would

try
them, first. Other places to 'look' are Jamestown Distributors

{Rhode
Island}, Hamilton Marine {Searsport, Maine - for REAL, 'Workin'

Stuff'},
and
Defender Industries {Conn}.

My only caveat is, I'm not sure about the 'larger' sizes - 1/2 in

line
and
up. I know I used white ones for my 3/8in and 1/2in mooring

pennants -
got
them at the Philly West Marine store.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:MvHbc.674$bh.184@lakeread02...
Ha, I was a little slow to get that one!
I always used ss until I saw what it does to galvanized chain.
I had never seen a black plastic one until a few hours ago! A

friend
had
bought an anchor line on ebay, and I noticed it in his truck. Only

id
was
Taiwan, but was a nice thimble w/ straps.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Doing a lot of sewing?

Why not SS? I don't think I've ever seen a black plastic one,

but it
would
be a good idea. Would be cheaper for the mfg's as well.

--


Keith
__
Some people are like Slinkies: not really good for anything,

but
you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the
stairs.
"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:nrobc.59$bh.45@lakeread02...
Are these available? It's easy to find white or translucent

thimbles,
but
uv
eats them up so badly.
TIA
Garland










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Yes, I've seen the too. And thanks for the website. I've saved it.
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
For the smaller sizes, i've seen cast thimbles which were solid and bored

3/8"
or so for a shackle pin. I think I got 'em from sailmakers.

See also

http://www.multihullboatbuilder.com/...icshrouds.html



Garland Gray II wrote:

Good point.
I may end up w/ss for this. I want to replace my lifelines with Amsteel.
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
I recollect learning that only cast thimbles or heavy galvanized

thimbles
were
generally stiff enough not to deform when loaded to a nylon or dacron

rope's
full safe working load. Stainless ones were second place and plastic

a
distant
third. Ask a competent rigger before using a plastic thimble in a

line
that's
to carrry any significant load.

Ron Magen wrote:

Garland,
I've seen them quite consistently at West Marine {all over}. I would

try
them, first. Other places to 'look' are Jamestown Distributors

{Rhode
Island}, Hamilton Marine {Searsport, Maine - for REAL, 'Workin'

Stuff'},
and
Defender Industries {Conn}.

My only caveat is, I'm not sure about the 'larger' sizes - 1/2 in

line
and
up. I know I used white ones for my 3/8in and 1/2in mooring

pennants -
got
them at the Philly West Marine store.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:MvHbc.674$bh.184@lakeread02...
Ha, I was a little slow to get that one!
I always used ss until I saw what it does to galvanized chain.
I had never seen a black plastic one until a few hours ago! A

friend
had
bought an anchor line on ebay, and I noticed it in his truck. Only

id
was
Taiwan, but was a nice thimble w/ straps.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Doing a lot of sewing?

Why not SS? I don't think I've ever seen a black plastic one,

but it
would
be a good idea. Would be cheaper for the mfg's as well.

--


Keith
__
Some people are like Slinkies: not really good for anything,

but
you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the
stairs.
"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:nrobc.59$bh.45@lakeread02...
Are these available? It's easy to find white or translucent

thimbles,
but
uv
eats them up so badly.
TIA
Garland












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IIRC, the folks who regulate lifeline specs for the offshore racing set are not
yet ready for materials other than stainless wire. Lifelines certainly are an
application that has lots of people thinking about it. I wouldn't do my own
engineering here, but wait for a change in practices to evolve and be thoroughly
tested.

Sailrite has some fairly heavy closed ss thimbles. You might also try
Howe&Bainbridge, supplier to sailmakers.

Garland Gray II wrote:

Good point.
I may end up w/ss for this. I want to replace my lifelines with Amsteel.
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
I recollect learning that only cast thimbles or heavy galvanized thimbles

were
generally stiff enough not to deform when loaded to a nylon or dacron

rope's
full safe working load. Stainless ones were second place and plastic a

distant
third. Ask a competent rigger before using a plastic thimble in a line

that's
to carrry any significant load.

Ron Magen wrote:

Garland,
I've seen them quite consistently at West Marine {all over}. I would try
them, first. Other places to 'look' are Jamestown Distributors {Rhode
Island}, Hamilton Marine {Searsport, Maine - for REAL, 'Workin' Stuff'},

and
Defender Industries {Conn}.

My only caveat is, I'm not sure about the 'larger' sizes - 1/2 in line

and
up. I know I used white ones for my 3/8in and 1/2in mooring pennants -

got
them at the Philly West Marine store.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:MvHbc.674$bh.184@lakeread02...
Ha, I was a little slow to get that one!
I always used ss until I saw what it does to galvanized chain.
I had never seen a black plastic one until a few hours ago! A friend

had
bought an anchor line on ebay, and I noticed it in his truck. Only id

was
Taiwan, but was a nice thimble w/ straps.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Doing a lot of sewing?

Why not SS? I don't think I've ever seen a black plastic one, but it
would
be a good idea. Would be cheaper for the mfg's as well.

--


Keith
__
Some people are like Slinkies: not really good for anything, but
you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the
stairs.
"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:nrobc.59$bh.45@lakeread02...
Are these available? It's easy to find white or translucent

thimbles,
but
uv
eats them up so badly.
TIA
Garland








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IIRC, the folks who regulate lifeline specs for the offshore racing set are not
yet ready for materials other than stainless wire. Lifelines certainly are an
application that has lots of people thinking about it. I wouldn't do my own
engineering here, but wait for a change in practices to evolve and be thoroughly
tested.

Sailrite has some fairly heavy closed ss thimbles. You might also try
Howe&Bainbridge, supplier to sailmakers.

Garland Gray II wrote:

Good point.
I may end up w/ss for this. I want to replace my lifelines with Amsteel.
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
I recollect learning that only cast thimbles or heavy galvanized thimbles

were
generally stiff enough not to deform when loaded to a nylon or dacron

rope's
full safe working load. Stainless ones were second place and plastic a

distant
third. Ask a competent rigger before using a plastic thimble in a line

that's
to carrry any significant load.

Ron Magen wrote:

Garland,
I've seen them quite consistently at West Marine {all over}. I would try
them, first. Other places to 'look' are Jamestown Distributors {Rhode
Island}, Hamilton Marine {Searsport, Maine - for REAL, 'Workin' Stuff'},

and
Defender Industries {Conn}.

My only caveat is, I'm not sure about the 'larger' sizes - 1/2 in line

and
up. I know I used white ones for my 3/8in and 1/2in mooring pennants -

got
them at the Philly West Marine store.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:MvHbc.674$bh.184@lakeread02...
Ha, I was a little slow to get that one!
I always used ss until I saw what it does to galvanized chain.
I had never seen a black plastic one until a few hours ago! A friend

had
bought an anchor line on ebay, and I noticed it in his truck. Only id

was
Taiwan, but was a nice thimble w/ straps.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Doing a lot of sewing?

Why not SS? I don't think I've ever seen a black plastic one, but it
would
be a good idea. Would be cheaper for the mfg's as well.

--


Keith
__
Some people are like Slinkies: not really good for anything, but
you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the
stairs.
"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:nrobc.59$bh.45@lakeread02...
Are these available? It's easy to find white or translucent

thimbles,
but
uv
eats them up so badly.
TIA
Garland








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OK, that's a new term to me. What metal is a "cast" thimble made from?

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Keith
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"A girl phoned me the other day and said, "Come on over. Nobody's home." I
went over. Nobody was home." - Rodney Dangerfield
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
For the smaller sizes, i've seen cast thimbles which were solid and bored

3/8"
or so for a shackle pin. I think I got 'em from sailmakers.

See also

http://www.multihullboatbuilder.com/...icshrouds.html



Garland Gray II wrote:

Good point.
I may end up w/ss for this. I want to replace my lifelines with Amsteel.
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
I recollect learning that only cast thimbles or heavy galvanized

thimbles
were
generally stiff enough not to deform when loaded to a nylon or dacron

rope's
full safe working load. Stainless ones were second place and plastic

a
distant
third. Ask a competent rigger before using a plastic thimble in a

line
that's
to carrry any significant load.

Ron Magen wrote:

Garland,
I've seen them quite consistently at West Marine {all over}. I would

try
them, first. Other places to 'look' are Jamestown Distributors

{Rhode
Island}, Hamilton Marine {Searsport, Maine - for REAL, 'Workin'

Stuff'},
and
Defender Industries {Conn}.

My only caveat is, I'm not sure about the 'larger' sizes - 1/2 in

line
and
up. I know I used white ones for my 3/8in and 1/2in mooring

pennants -
got
them at the Philly West Marine store.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:MvHbc.674$bh.184@lakeread02...
Ha, I was a little slow to get that one!
I always used ss until I saw what it does to galvanized chain.
I had never seen a black plastic one until a few hours ago! A

friend
had
bought an anchor line on ebay, and I noticed it in his truck. Only

id
was
Taiwan, but was a nice thimble w/ straps.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Doing a lot of sewing?

Why not SS? I don't think I've ever seen a black plastic one,

but it
would
be a good idea. Would be cheaper for the mfg's as well.

--


Keith
__
Some people are like Slinkies: not really good for anything,

but
you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the
stairs.
"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:nrobc.59$bh.45@lakeread02...
Are these available? It's easy to find white or translucent

thimbles,
but
uv
eats them up so badly.
TIA
Garland










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Keith
 
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OK, that's a new term to me. What metal is a "cast" thimble made from?

--


Keith
__
"A girl phoned me the other day and said, "Come on over. Nobody's home." I
went over. Nobody was home." - Rodney Dangerfield
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
For the smaller sizes, i've seen cast thimbles which were solid and bored

3/8"
or so for a shackle pin. I think I got 'em from sailmakers.

See also

http://www.multihullboatbuilder.com/...icshrouds.html



Garland Gray II wrote:

Good point.
I may end up w/ss for this. I want to replace my lifelines with Amsteel.
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
I recollect learning that only cast thimbles or heavy galvanized

thimbles
were
generally stiff enough not to deform when loaded to a nylon or dacron

rope's
full safe working load. Stainless ones were second place and plastic

a
distant
third. Ask a competent rigger before using a plastic thimble in a

line
that's
to carrry any significant load.

Ron Magen wrote:

Garland,
I've seen them quite consistently at West Marine {all over}. I would

try
them, first. Other places to 'look' are Jamestown Distributors

{Rhode
Island}, Hamilton Marine {Searsport, Maine - for REAL, 'Workin'

Stuff'},
and
Defender Industries {Conn}.

My only caveat is, I'm not sure about the 'larger' sizes - 1/2 in

line
and
up. I know I used white ones for my 3/8in and 1/2in mooring

pennants -
got
them at the Philly West Marine store.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:MvHbc.674$bh.184@lakeread02...
Ha, I was a little slow to get that one!
I always used ss until I saw what it does to galvanized chain.
I had never seen a black plastic one until a few hours ago! A

friend
had
bought an anchor line on ebay, and I noticed it in his truck. Only

id
was
Taiwan, but was a nice thimble w/ straps.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Doing a lot of sewing?

Why not SS? I don't think I've ever seen a black plastic one,

but it
would
be a good idea. Would be cheaper for the mfg's as well.

--


Keith
__
Some people are like Slinkies: not really good for anything,

but
you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the
stairs.
"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:nrobc.59$bh.45@lakeread02...
Are these available? It's easy to find white or translucent

thimbles,
but
uv
eats them up so badly.
TIA
Garland










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I've seen open ones in bronze and solid-body ones in aluminum and bronze, if
memory serves.

Keith wrote:

OK, that's a new term to me. What metal is a "cast" thimble made from?

--

Keith
__
"A girl phoned me the other day and said, "Come on over. Nobody's home." I
went over. Nobody was home." - Rodney Dangerfield
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
For the smaller sizes, i've seen cast thimbles which were solid and bored

3/8"
or so for a shackle pin. I think I got 'em from sailmakers.

See also

http://www.multihullboatbuilder.com/...icshrouds.html



Garland Gray II wrote:

Good point.
I may end up w/ss for this. I want to replace my lifelines with Amsteel.
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
I recollect learning that only cast thimbles or heavy galvanized

thimbles
were
generally stiff enough not to deform when loaded to a nylon or dacron
rope's
full safe working load. Stainless ones were second place and plastic

a
distant
third. Ask a competent rigger before using a plastic thimble in a

line
that's
to carrry any significant load.

Ron Magen wrote:

Garland,
I've seen them quite consistently at West Marine {all over}. I would

try
them, first. Other places to 'look' are Jamestown Distributors

{Rhode
Island}, Hamilton Marine {Searsport, Maine - for REAL, 'Workin'

Stuff'},
and
Defender Industries {Conn}.

My only caveat is, I'm not sure about the 'larger' sizes - 1/2 in

line
and
up. I know I used white ones for my 3/8in and 1/2in mooring

pennants -
got
them at the Philly West Marine store.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:MvHbc.674$bh.184@lakeread02...
Ha, I was a little slow to get that one!
I always used ss until I saw what it does to galvanized chain.
I had never seen a black plastic one until a few hours ago! A

friend
had
bought an anchor line on ebay, and I noticed it in his truck. Only

id
was
Taiwan, but was a nice thimble w/ straps.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Doing a lot of sewing?

Why not SS? I don't think I've ever seen a black plastic one,

but it
would
be a good idea. Would be cheaper for the mfg's as well.

--


Keith
__
Some people are like Slinkies: not really good for anything,

but
you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the
stairs.
"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:nrobc.59$bh.45@lakeread02...
Are these available? It's easy to find white or translucent
thimbles,
but
uv
eats them up so badly.
TIA
Garland









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