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porta-bote or inflatable?
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James Johnson wrote: What about windage? Would it be able to take 60 knot gusts from a bad thunderstorm? That is what I base my stowage requirement on. If I can't stow it to take that severe of a storm I don't take it with me. We can get a lot of thunderstorms on the Chesapeake. JJ I don't believe windage is a problem. Our PortaBote is on our side deck from splash to haul each year. It tried to escape once, but that was my fault. Even against the life lines, it doesn't increase the windage too much at anchor, and may help reduce sailing around the anchor. In summer squalls, if we're not at anchor then, I did something wrong; the PortaBote is low in the hierarchy of my worries if it's properly lashed. Most cruisers won't notice the extra windage under sail. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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porta-bote or inflatable?
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James Johnson wrote: What about windage? Would it be able to take 60 knot gusts from a bad thunderstorm? That is what I base my stowage requirement on. If I can't stow it to take that severe of a storm I don't take it with me. We can get a lot of thunderstorms on the Chesapeake. JJ I don't believe windage is a problem. Our PortaBote is on our side deck from splash to haul each year. It tried to escape once, but that was my fault. Even against the life lines, it doesn't increase the windage too much at anchor, and may help reduce sailing around the anchor. In summer squalls, if we're not at anchor then, I did something wrong; the PortaBote is low in the hierarchy of my worries if it's properly lashed. Most cruisers won't notice the extra windage under sail. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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porta-bote or inflatable?
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James Johnson wrote: I have an Avon Redcrest inflatable. A portaboat has some attraction but on my 26 footer there is no acceptable place to put it. The cabin top? On my boat the cabin top isn't big enough, an the link to some pictures showed one stowed on the cabin top but it also obstructed the handrails, which I won't do for safety reasons. I might need to be able to grab that handrail one day. I looked at our bag with the seats, and it IS secured to the handrail on one side with bungee cords. Two points here. 1) We don't go out on the cabin top or foredeck when underway hardly ever because we have everything led back to the cockpit on purpose so we don't have to. 2) We always wear auto inflate life vests with harnesses when underway, and if the water is at all rough we are attached by a tether to the jacklines. So we don't rely on the handrails any more than we rely on the lifelines. The lifelines? If I put it there it fouls the sheet leading the jib track and also would be an unacceptable obstruction to going forward on the side decks. YMMV, and larger boats would not have the same issues. Our jib track and sheets are outside the lifelines (which is one reason the boat doesn't point as well as we can't bring the jib sheet inside the shrouds) and the lifelines are on top of a toe rail. The portabote can be either on the deck inside the toe rail, or actually up on the lifelines. Set up time for my Avon: 5 minutes to pull stowage bag out of cockpit locker, unzip bag, unroll dinghy (it has a hard rollup floor with interlocking slats) 5 minutes to hook up pump and inflate 5 minutes to insert engine mount, mount engine (lightweight 4 hp 2 stroke), and throw in safety bag (contains flares, lines, battery nav lights, anchor, life jackets, handheld vhf) This is a total of about 15 minutes. Figure another 5 minutes to load people and cargo. It is a small handy inflatable. Of course a Redcrest can't plane, but if you have that much need for speed why do you have a sailboat? My boat has a draft of 2 1/2 feet with the centerboard up so I can anchor in pretty close to where I want to go. We have a 5 foot draft and anchoring close to where we want to go (or to other people) isn't a priority. That's because everybody else wants to anchor close and we don't want to anchor close to other people. I don't understand why whenever someone anchors, everyone else comes in an gets right next to them even when there's lots of space that's just as good that isn't close to anyone. It's just as inexplicable as why people consistently come into a dock and just as they are turning into the slip suddenly discover that they will need lines - which they don't have rigged and they have to go diving into lockers to get. grandma Rosalie |
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porta-bote or inflatable?
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James Johnson wrote: I have an Avon Redcrest inflatable. A portaboat has some attraction but on my 26 footer there is no acceptable place to put it. The cabin top? On my boat the cabin top isn't big enough, an the link to some pictures showed one stowed on the cabin top but it also obstructed the handrails, which I won't do for safety reasons. I might need to be able to grab that handrail one day. I looked at our bag with the seats, and it IS secured to the handrail on one side with bungee cords. Two points here. 1) We don't go out on the cabin top or foredeck when underway hardly ever because we have everything led back to the cockpit on purpose so we don't have to. 2) We always wear auto inflate life vests with harnesses when underway, and if the water is at all rough we are attached by a tether to the jacklines. So we don't rely on the handrails any more than we rely on the lifelines. The lifelines? If I put it there it fouls the sheet leading the jib track and also would be an unacceptable obstruction to going forward on the side decks. YMMV, and larger boats would not have the same issues. Our jib track and sheets are outside the lifelines (which is one reason the boat doesn't point as well as we can't bring the jib sheet inside the shrouds) and the lifelines are on top of a toe rail. The portabote can be either on the deck inside the toe rail, or actually up on the lifelines. Set up time for my Avon: 5 minutes to pull stowage bag out of cockpit locker, unzip bag, unroll dinghy (it has a hard rollup floor with interlocking slats) 5 minutes to hook up pump and inflate 5 minutes to insert engine mount, mount engine (lightweight 4 hp 2 stroke), and throw in safety bag (contains flares, lines, battery nav lights, anchor, life jackets, handheld vhf) This is a total of about 15 minutes. Figure another 5 minutes to load people and cargo. It is a small handy inflatable. Of course a Redcrest can't plane, but if you have that much need for speed why do you have a sailboat? My boat has a draft of 2 1/2 feet with the centerboard up so I can anchor in pretty close to where I want to go. We have a 5 foot draft and anchoring close to where we want to go (or to other people) isn't a priority. That's because everybody else wants to anchor close and we don't want to anchor close to other people. I don't understand why whenever someone anchors, everyone else comes in an gets right next to them even when there's lots of space that's just as good that isn't close to anyone. It's just as inexplicable as why people consistently come into a dock and just as they are turning into the slip suddenly discover that they will need lines - which they don't have rigged and they have to go diving into lockers to get. grandma Rosalie |
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