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Have you guys been to:
http://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/ Where Google Maps and satellite views get the marine chart overlays? Take a look....(c; My little Nokia N800 Linux internet tablet has an open source freeware app the Linux hacker geniuses wrote called Maemo Mapper that uses these tiles and a little Bluetooth GPS receiver (12 channel, WAAS-corrected, very sensitive, size of a matchbox) to put a fix, track your progress, do waypoints and plan routes on a wide variety of map tile repositories it downloads and stores from open internet repositories such as Google, Virtual Earth, open source map repositories, NOAA weather radar LIVE, Terraserver, Runway Finder (latest aviation charts!)....etc., etc., more every week. On the road, it connects to Points of Interest databases so detailed it even has the self-serve laundromat up the street, complete with their phone numbers you can use while ashore in some strange port, lost as usual trying to find that maritime museum in Tahiti. You'll carry the tablet while ashore walking around with the little GPS in your watch pocket of your jeans. That way you won't get lost in Key West, again, next time and can find that special bar right on the map! I'm in contact with the guys who wrote Maemo Mapper (open source freeware) for the Maemo Linux tablets, and am trying to get them to do what's necessary to get Marine Charts, with your boat's position tracking on top of them.....no, no...not those OLD, OBSOLETE charts from 1989 on the damned expensive chart plugs....straight off the internet with the latest charts available for FREE! So, there you are cruising the ICW or your favorite Chesapeake Bay, tracking your course on top of the latest marine chart...or...Virtual Earth's latest satellite photo...or...any of many land mapping sources...with the LATEST weather radar picture directly from the NOAA doppler radar available by clicking the WX icon over any picture/chart/map...all in relation to your course being plotted by a $230 Linux internet tablet connected through your Bluetooth cellular phone's internet service to shore.....if it can connect, of course. If not, it'll use the STORED maps/charts/tile photos from your two 16GB SDHC memory cards ($59 ea at buy.com when I got mine.) Interested??.....(c; http://www.nseries.com/n800 the tablet.... http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/ all the freeware for it. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/maemo-mapper/ the open source freeware mapper program (installs on the tablet by coming to this page and clicking that green arrow's .install program. Linux is easier than WinXP.) http://www.youtube.com/results? search_query=maemo+mapper&search_type=&aq=f some older videos on using Maemo Mapper not related to a marine environment.... Search Google for maemo mapper to get lots more info on this fantastic little Linux program..... ------------------------------------------------------------------ So, there I hope you'll be, crusing down the ICW plotted within a couple of ft by the little GPS up under the bimini in a ziplock bag. Wherever you are on the boat, not just tethered to wires at the helm, you can look at your tablet and see where you are on the chart. Wondering what the terrain looks like up ahead, you click up the menu button to the left of the screen, click MAPS and pick VE Hybrid from the list of repositories. Maemo mapper switches itself from the NOAA chart to Virtual Earth's latest satellite photo with all the local streets and roads around you nicely plotted and labeled...EXACTLY where the chart just was with your little blue icon in the center. You look up around the bend from a real picture and see some docks to look out for sticking out from shore and the fork in the ICW not far beyond you need to take the left channel on according to the chart you just left. You press the WX clicker and NOAA weather radar's NEXRAD displays on the satphoto (or chart as selected) showing you a nasty thunderstorm about 12 miles ahead you've heard banging away in the distance but can't see where it is for the trees and terrain, here. Now you know the storm's exact location on the chart and can keep an eye on it to see if it is approaching your course of going the other way..... Lying comfortably in your aft cabin with the tablet on your pillow, you decide you can snooze a little longer before being needed on deck. You put the tablet in LOCK mode, shutting down the display, but the programs keep tracking your movements and that weather cell for instant retrieval without having to boot up. In standby with the display off, you don't need to charge it for days....It runs for 6 hours at full brightness, not 45 minutes like the damned laptop battery hog at the chart table. It charges in an hour, ready for a few more watches.... This is what I'm trying to get the Mapper hackers to do for you...(c; Not $1500, Not $2400, Not $699.......$230 for the tablet, $0 for the software and data off your cellphone, $100 for the tiny GPS box that recharges in an hour and runs for 22 on its little cellphone battery that's also user changeable as easy as your cellphone's. Still interested?? You'll switch Maemo Mapper to the runwayfinders.com aviation charts next week when you fly down to Miami....exactly like this, too....(c; After you've docked, you'll connect the tablet to the marina's wifi (it's 5 times as sensitive as the most expensive laptop we can find) so you can click up Streamtuner and pick one of its 15,000 radio stations across the planet streaming on the internet....or watch any number of internet videos from youtube on MyTube those hackers wrote for it free....or use mplayer to play one of the DivX movies you loaded on its external card off alt.binaries.movies.divx newsgroup. Who needs XM?? How silly.... iPhone my ass......... |
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Larry,
You make this stuff sound wonderful, but in fact it scares the hell out of me. Navigation using uncertified charts? Since when is this progress? Sounds like stupidity to me. Close your eyes and imagine the court ruling in an accident liability case when you tell the court you were using uncertified charts from the internet after causing massive property damage and or loss of life. Steve "Larry" wrote in message ... Have you guys been to: http://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/ Where Google Maps and satellite views get the marine chart overlays? Take a look....(c; My little Nokia N800 Linux internet tablet has an open source freeware app the Linux hacker geniuses wrote called Maemo Mapper that uses these tiles and a little Bluetooth GPS receiver (12 channel, WAAS-corrected, very sensitive, size of a matchbox) to put a fix, track your progress, do waypoints and plan routes on a wide variety of map tile repositories it downloads and stores from open internet repositories such as Google, Virtual Earth, open source map repositories, NOAA weather radar LIVE, Terraserver, Runway Finder (latest aviation charts!)....etc., etc., more every week. On the road, it connects to Points of Interest databases so detailed it even has the self-serve laundromat up the street, complete with their phone numbers you can use while ashore in some strange port, lost as usual trying to find that maritime museum in Tahiti. You'll carry the tablet while ashore walking around with the little GPS in your watch pocket of your jeans. That way you won't get lost in Key West, again, next time and can find that special bar right on the map! I'm in contact with the guys who wrote Maemo Mapper (open source freeware) for the Maemo Linux tablets, and am trying to get them to do what's necessary to get Marine Charts, with your boat's position tracking on top of them.....no, no...not those OLD, OBSOLETE charts from 1989 on the damned expensive chart plugs....straight off the internet with the latest charts available for FREE! So, there you are cruising the ICW or your favorite Chesapeake Bay, tracking your course on top of the latest marine chart...or...Virtual Earth's latest satellite photo...or...any of many land mapping sources...with the LATEST weather radar picture directly from the NOAA doppler radar available by clicking the WX icon over any picture/chart/map...all in relation to your course being plotted by a $230 Linux internet tablet connected through your Bluetooth cellular phone's internet service to shore.....if it can connect, of course. If not, it'll use the STORED maps/charts/tile photos from your two 16GB SDHC memory cards ($59 ea at buy.com when I got mine.) Interested??.....(c; http://www.nseries.com/n800 the tablet.... http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/ all the freeware for it. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/maemo-mapper/ the open source freeware mapper program (installs on the tablet by coming to this page and clicking that green arrow's .install program. Linux is easier than WinXP.) http://www.youtube.com/results? search_query=maemo+mapper&search_type=&aq=f some older videos on using Maemo Mapper not related to a marine environment.... Search Google for maemo mapper to get lots more info on this fantastic little Linux program..... ------------------------------------------------------------------ So, there I hope you'll be, crusing down the ICW plotted within a couple of ft by the little GPS up under the bimini in a ziplock bag. Wherever you are on the boat, not just tethered to wires at the helm, you can look at your tablet and see where you are on the chart. Wondering what the terrain looks like up ahead, you click up the menu button to the left of the screen, click MAPS and pick VE Hybrid from the list of repositories. Maemo mapper switches itself from the NOAA chart to Virtual Earth's latest satellite photo with all the local streets and roads around you nicely plotted and labeled...EXACTLY where the chart just was with your little blue icon in the center. You look up around the bend from a real picture and see some docks to look out for sticking out from shore and the fork in the ICW not far beyond you need to take the left channel on according to the chart you just left. You press the WX clicker and NOAA weather radar's NEXRAD displays on the satphoto (or chart as selected) showing you a nasty thunderstorm about 12 miles ahead you've heard banging away in the distance but can't see where it is for the trees and terrain, here. Now you know the storm's exact location on the chart and can keep an eye on it to see if it is approaching your course of going the other way..... Lying comfortably in your aft cabin with the tablet on your pillow, you decide you can snooze a little longer before being needed on deck. You put the tablet in LOCK mode, shutting down the display, but the programs keep tracking your movements and that weather cell for instant retrieval without having to boot up. In standby with the display off, you don't need to charge it for days....It runs for 6 hours at full brightness, not 45 minutes like the damned laptop battery hog at the chart table. It charges in an hour, ready for a few more watches.... This is what I'm trying to get the Mapper hackers to do for you...(c; Not $1500, Not $2400, Not $699.......$230 for the tablet, $0 for the software and data off your cellphone, $100 for the tiny GPS box that recharges in an hour and runs for 22 on its little cellphone battery that's also user changeable as easy as your cellphone's. Still interested?? You'll switch Maemo Mapper to the runwayfinders.com aviation charts next week when you fly down to Miami....exactly like this, too....(c; After you've docked, you'll connect the tablet to the marina's wifi (it's 5 times as sensitive as the most expensive laptop we can find) so you can click up Streamtuner and pick one of its 15,000 radio stations across the planet streaming on the internet....or watch any number of internet videos from youtube on MyTube those hackers wrote for it free....or use mplayer to play one of the DivX movies you loaded on its external card off alt.binaries.movies.divx newsgroup. Who needs XM?? How silly.... iPhone my ass......... |
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Steve Lusardi wrote:
Larry, You make this stuff sound wonderful, but in fact it scares the hell out of me. Navigation using uncertified charts? Since when is this progress? Sounds like stupidity to me. Close your eyes and imagine the court ruling in an accident liability case when you tell the court you were using uncertified charts from the internet after causing massive property damage and or loss of life. Steve "Larry" wrote in message ... Have you guys been to: http://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/ Where Google Maps and satellite views get the marine chart overlays? Take a look....(c; My little Nokia N800 Linux internet tablet has an open source freeware app the Linux hacker geniuses wrote called Maemo Mapper that uses these tiles and a little Bluetooth GPS receiver (12 channel, WAAS-corrected, very sensitive, size of a matchbox) to put a fix, track your progress, do waypoints and plan routes on a wide variety of map tile repositories it downloads and stores from open internet repositories such as Google, Virtual Earth, open source map repositories, NOAA weather radar LIVE, Terraserver, Runway Finder (latest aviation charts!)....etc., etc., more every week. On the road, it connects to Points of Interest databases so detailed it even has the self-serve laundromat up the street, complete with their phone numbers you can use while ashore in some strange port, lost as usual trying to find that maritime museum in Tahiti. You'll carry the tablet while ashore walking around with the little GPS in your watch pocket of your jeans. That way you won't get lost in Key West, again, next time and can find that special bar right on the map! I'm in contact with the guys who wrote Maemo Mapper (open source freeware) for the Maemo Linux tablets, and am trying to get them to do what's necessary to get Marine Charts, with your boat's position tracking on top of them.....no, no...not those OLD, OBSOLETE charts from 1989 on the damned expensive chart plugs....straight off the internet with the latest charts available for FREE! So, there you are cruising the ICW or your favorite Chesapeake Bay, tracking your course on top of the latest marine chart...or...Virtual Earth's latest satellite photo...or...any of many land mapping sources...with the LATEST weather radar picture directly from the NOAA doppler radar available by clicking the WX icon over any picture/chart/map...all in relation to your course being plotted by a $230 Linux internet tablet connected through your Bluetooth cellular phone's internet service to shore.....if it can connect, of course. If not, it'll use the STORED maps/charts/tile photos from your two 16GB SDHC memory cards ($59 ea at buy.com when I got mine.) Interested??.....(c; http://www.nseries.com/n800 the tablet.... http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/ all the freeware for it. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/maemo-mapper/ the open source freeware mapper program (installs on the tablet by coming to this page and clicking that green arrow's .install program. Linux is easier than WinXP.) http://www.youtube.com/results? search_query=maemo+mapper&search_type=&aq=f some older videos on using Maemo Mapper not related to a marine environment.... Search Google for maemo mapper to get lots more info on this fantastic little Linux program..... ------------------------------------------------------------------ So, there I hope you'll be, crusing down the ICW plotted within a couple of ft by the little GPS up under the bimini in a ziplock bag. Wherever you are on the boat, not just tethered to wires at the helm, you can look at your tablet and see where you are on the chart. Wondering what the terrain looks like up ahead, you click up the menu button to the left of the screen, click MAPS and pick VE Hybrid from the list of repositories. Maemo mapper switches itself from the NOAA chart to Virtual Earth's latest satellite photo with all the local streets and roads around you nicely plotted and labeled...EXACTLY where the chart just was with your little blue icon in the center. You look up around the bend from a real picture and see some docks to look out for sticking out from shore and the fork in the ICW not far beyond you need to take the left channel on according to the chart you just left. You press the WX clicker and NOAA weather radar's NEXRAD displays on the satphoto (or chart as selected) showing you a nasty thunderstorm about 12 miles ahead you've heard banging away in the distance but can't see where it is for the trees and terrain, here. Now you know the storm's exact location on the chart and can keep an eye on it to see if it is approaching your course of going the other way..... Lying comfortably in your aft cabin with the tablet on your pillow, you decide you can snooze a little longer before being needed on deck. You put the tablet in LOCK mode, shutting down the display, but the programs keep tracking your movements and that weather cell for instant retrieval without having to boot up. In standby with the display off, you don't need to charge it for days....It runs for 6 hours at full brightness, not 45 minutes like the damned laptop battery hog at the chart table. It charges in an hour, ready for a few more watches.... This is what I'm trying to get the Mapper hackers to do for you...(c; Not $1500, Not $2400, Not $699.......$230 for the tablet, $0 for the software and data off your cellphone, $100 for the tiny GPS box that recharges in an hour and runs for 22 on its little cellphone battery that's also user changeable as easy as your cellphone's. Still interested?? You'll switch Maemo Mapper to the runwayfinders.com aviation charts next week when you fly down to Miami....exactly like this, too....(c; After you've docked, you'll connect the tablet to the marina's wifi (it's 5 times as sensitive as the most expensive laptop we can find) so you can click up Streamtuner and pick one of its 15,000 radio stations across the planet streaming on the internet....or watch any number of internet videos from youtube on MyTube those hackers wrote for it free....or use mplayer to play one of the DivX movies you loaded on its external card off alt.binaries.movies.divx newsgroup. Who needs XM?? How silly.... iPhone my ass......... I think he means NOAA charts of the US coastline. Not much use to us Brits! If it's taken the Linux guys 12 years or more to catch up with the likes of Oziexplorer, think of the startup problems likely to be inherent in the software. Dennis. |
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You make this stuff sound wonderful, but in fact it scares the hell out of
me. Navigation using uncertified charts? Since when is this progress? Sounds like stupidity to me. Larry and stupidity? Goes hand in hand, especially when he's flogging his masturbatory dream; that Nokia tablet. |
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"Steve Lusardi" wrote in
: Larry, You make this stuff sound wonderful, but in fact it scares the hell out of me. Navigation using uncertified charts? Since when is this progress? Sounds like stupidity to me. Close your eyes and imagine the court ruling in an accident liability case when you tell the court you were using uncertified charts from the internet after causing massive property damage and or loss of life. Steve The charts are REAL NOAA CERTIFIED CHARTS, just like you pay out the ass for old ones at Waste Marine......SAME CHARTS ONLY UP-TO-DATE! Is that loud enough to get through to you? The NOAA Charts on Ocean Google are those new charts! You can access them from any browser over an aircard on your laptop NOW if you have internet cellular service. These are only good in the USA, not Germany. |
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"Roger Long" wrote in
: Very, very cool. I'm a bit skeptical though about using it for actual navigation. It's running and updating so slowly on my Time Warner broadband cable connection that I could easily get from the middle of Portland Harbor to the rocks in the time it's taken to do a zoom. -- Roger Long You have something bad wrong, Roger. The webpage updates fully from scratch here in about 5 seconds, plenty of time to avoid the rocks. The aeronautical charts update over my EVDO cellphone circuit in about 2 seconds in Maemo Mapper without all the webpage code. They aren't near as complex as the satellite photo tiles which are much, much finer in detail than charts are. |
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By the way, Roger and every other Time Warner customer on this newsgroup,
Time Warner will stop providing usenet service very soon. Bye Bye.....I'm very sorry you're being screwed this way. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/T...Stop-Offering- Newsgroup-Access-95030 I guess you'll have to use Google Groups or buy usenet service if you download binaries from www.usenetserver.com It's all about preventing users from actually using bandwidth they paid for. I predict all "broadband internet" service in 5 years will be just exactly what "broadband internet" on a Sellphone has become....webpages loaded with spam and email ONLY. It will mean the end of the internet's open system in the name of increased profits for less and less service. Only Alltel allows unlimited internet over sellphones, now. They're being bought by the PHONE HOBBLING KING, Verizon Wireless, very soon. Verizon tried to limit it to web pages and email ONLY, but churning happened so now they limit their sellphone internet to 5GB/month and charge like hell if you go over. |
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"Roger Long" wrote in
: Well, I have my suspicions. My ISP announced new "Turbo" service a few months ago. For ten bucks a month you get faster service. Right about the time of that announcement, I noticed that the speed of everything slowed way down. I wonder what you get for ten buck more a month ![]() -- Roger Long Don't miss my post about TW eliminating usenet service. You may need another internet service, soon. All the CTIA companies are involved in try to throttle everything except the webpages the spammers want you to see. Comcrap throttles Bit Torrent and the other file sharing systems. TW wants to stop usenet downloading. "Broadband Internet" on Sellphones means web pages and email ONLY, these days. Streaming video/audio, downloading from anyplace, uploading to anyplace, any service that uses real bandwidth over time, must all be eliminated...or sold to the customer for big bucks. Net neutrality is a dead issue. The internet will soon become just like TV....another advertising billboard in your living room. I dumped the TV billboard in 1992. I've been downloading music and movies 24/7 for years. When, not if, they stop it, I'll have my collection to watch for the rest of my life, and simply disconnect the new billboard system once called "internet". RIAA/MPAA couldn't stop it in court....so this is the new tactic, stop the sharing of everything. I hope it leads to massive disconnections. If Knology, my provider, didn't provide usenet, I'd have no reason to pay them $60/mo for access. I'd dump 'em on day one. |
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On Jun 5, 11:43*am, "Roger Long" wrote:
"Larry" wrote By the way, Roger and every other Time Warner customer on this newsgroup, Time Warner will stop providing usenet service very soon. Bye Bye.....I'm very sorry you're being screwed this way. Well, soyunara. *It's been nice knowing you all (well, most of you). *I'll miss the chat here but not enough to pay for it. I hope to be spending a lot more time on the boat soon anyway and don't ever plan to have Internet afloat. *The simple life is one of the reasons I cruise. Hard to get too upset over Usenet when we are being screwed on food, fuel, war, and our children's future. -- Roger Long You can use Google Groups for free. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...pics?hl=en&lnk Fred |
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Larry,
This is a bit off topic - but I am wondering if it is possible to connect a Nokia N800 to my laptop at the Nav Station, running Coastal Explorer software - and display the same screen (Coastal Explorer) on the Nokia? Also, what kind of Bluetooth transmitter would I need fro the laptop to communicate with the Nokia? Thanks in advance Claus "Larry" wrote in message ... Have you guys been to: http://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/ Where Google Maps and satellite views get the marine chart overlays? Take a look....(c; My little Nokia N800 Linux internet tablet has an open source freeware app the Linux hacker geniuses wrote called Maemo Mapper that uses these tiles and a little Bluetooth GPS receiver (12 channel, WAAS-corrected, very sensitive, size of a matchbox) to put a fix, track your progress, do waypoints and plan routes on a wide variety of map tile repositories it downloads and stores from open internet repositories such as Google, Virtual Earth, open source map repositories, NOAA weather radar LIVE, Terraserver, Runway Finder (latest aviation charts!)....etc., etc., more every week. On the road, it connects to Points of Interest databases so detailed it even has the self-serve laundromat up the street, complete with their phone numbers you can use while ashore in some strange port, lost as usual trying to find that maritime museum in Tahiti. You'll carry the tablet while ashore walking around with the little GPS in your watch pocket of your jeans. That way you won't get lost in Key West, again, next time and can find that special bar right on the map! I'm in contact with the guys who wrote Maemo Mapper (open source freeware) for the Maemo Linux tablets, and am trying to get them to do what's necessary to get Marine Charts, with your boat's position tracking on top of them.....no, no...not those OLD, OBSOLETE charts from 1989 on the damned expensive chart plugs....straight off the internet with the latest charts available for FREE! So, there you are cruising the ICW or your favorite Chesapeake Bay, tracking your course on top of the latest marine chart...or...Virtual Earth's latest satellite photo...or...any of many land mapping sources...with the LATEST weather radar picture directly from the NOAA doppler radar available by clicking the WX icon over any picture/chart/map...all in relation to your course being plotted by a $230 Linux internet tablet connected through your Bluetooth cellular phone's internet service to shore.....if it can connect, of course. If not, it'll use the STORED maps/charts/tile photos from your two 16GB SDHC memory cards ($59 ea at buy.com when I got mine.) Interested??.....(c; http://www.nseries.com/n800 the tablet.... http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/ all the freeware for it. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/maemo-mapper/ the open source freeware mapper program (installs on the tablet by coming to this page and clicking that green arrow's .install program. Linux is easier than WinXP.) http://www.youtube.com/results? search_query=maemo+mapper&search_type=&aq=f some older videos on using Maemo Mapper not related to a marine environment.... Search Google for maemo mapper to get lots more info on this fantastic little Linux program..... ------------------------------------------------------------------ So, there I hope you'll be, crusing down the ICW plotted within a couple of ft by the little GPS up under the bimini in a ziplock bag. Wherever you are on the boat, not just tethered to wires at the helm, you can look at your tablet and see where you are on the chart. Wondering what the terrain looks like up ahead, you click up the menu button to the left of the screen, click MAPS and pick VE Hybrid from the list of repositories. Maemo mapper switches itself from the NOAA chart to Virtual Earth's latest satellite photo with all the local streets and roads around you nicely plotted and labeled...EXACTLY where the chart just was with your little blue icon in the center. You look up around the bend from a real picture and see some docks to look out for sticking out from shore and the fork in the ICW not far beyond you need to take the left channel on according to the chart you just left. You press the WX clicker and NOAA weather radar's NEXRAD displays on the satphoto (or chart as selected) showing you a nasty thunderstorm about 12 miles ahead you've heard banging away in the distance but can't see where it is for the trees and terrain, here. Now you know the storm's exact location on the chart and can keep an eye on it to see if it is approaching your course of going the other way..... Lying comfortably in your aft cabin with the tablet on your pillow, you decide you can snooze a little longer before being needed on deck. You put the tablet in LOCK mode, shutting down the display, but the programs keep tracking your movements and that weather cell for instant retrieval without having to boot up. In standby with the display off, you don't need to charge it for days....It runs for 6 hours at full brightness, not 45 minutes like the damned laptop battery hog at the chart table. It charges in an hour, ready for a few more watches.... This is what I'm trying to get the Mapper hackers to do for you...(c; Not $1500, Not $2400, Not $699.......$230 for the tablet, $0 for the software and data off your cellphone, $100 for the tiny GPS box that recharges in an hour and runs for 22 on its little cellphone battery that's also user changeable as easy as your cellphone's. Still interested?? You'll switch Maemo Mapper to the runwayfinders.com aviation charts next week when you fly down to Miami....exactly like this, too....(c; After you've docked, you'll connect the tablet to the marina's wifi (it's 5 times as sensitive as the most expensive laptop we can find) so you can click up Streamtuner and pick one of its 15,000 radio stations across the planet streaming on the internet....or watch any number of internet videos from youtube on MyTube those hackers wrote for it free....or use mplayer to play one of the DivX movies you loaded on its external card off alt.binaries.movies.divx newsgroup. Who needs XM?? How silly.... iPhone my ass......... |
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