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(Parallax) wrote:

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I'm not sure what you mean by 'optimum social conditions' with regard
to boating. Do you mean that you are an introvert and need your
space and you don't think you could be cooped up together with someone
else for long? We've got a big enough boat that Bob can go off in his
own space if he gets annoyed of me.

Or are you an extrovert type person who is most happy in a group?
There's lots of opportunities to interface with others - lots of boats
cruise in a group and are on the radio to each other all the time.
That's not our way, although we (me particularly) do talked to folks a
lot - we just aren't joined at the hip to anyone else.

It may be that eventually you WILL want to "drop out" but that you
aren't at that point in your life yet. One of the things that's
important to know is when you reach the transition points in life and
to prepare for them.

By "optimum social conditions", I mean I used to live in Wyoming and
thought it was crowded but still liked being able to see ppl from a
distance. My wife makes me nuts when she is aboard so I prefer
sailing alone.

Well this presents a problem that you haven't even thought of yet.
You are by your definition single-handing. And presumably you've left
your wife on shore- whether she is happy about that or not. I would
think it would be like being married to a guy in the Navy (which I
was).

But I still don't know whether you are talking about gunkholing or
single handing across the ocean.

For reasons I havent figgered out, the almighty has chosen to bless my
unworthiness with finding exactly what I should be doing on this earth
so I am unreasonably happy working. Cruising seems to be a way to get
out and get perspective to get more good ideas (about work). Its like
going for an extended walk and thinking. My role in life is to invent
weird techi things and I need a lot of equipment to do it so I need to
spend time at my lab. Even if I worked on cruising stuff, it would
take some ability to make things.

So, I am curious.....How do other ppl leave their boat in places? Do
you simply pay a fee in a marina (A marina?, what a weird concept.) or
leave her at pvt docks (thats what I normally do, meet stranger ppl
that way)?

One way for you to do this is to have a smaller boat that is
trailerable. Trailer it to your destination, sail around and then
pick it back up and go home. There are boats that it is perfectly
possible to do this with - a boat doesn't have to be a big boat
(especially if only one person is aboard) to be safe and appropriate
for going quite long distances. And your wife could go along and stay
on land and wait for you, or stay home, whichever she preferred.

Also check out some of Lynn and Larry Pardee's books - they do leave
the boat sometimes - sometimes on the hard - in various places. And
Larry carries his tools with him.

I s'pose that if I could invent the optimum dinghy, I would be happy
to have made a contribution to society and be happy to cruise.....

grandma Rosalie

As for extended cruising, helped a guy at the dock the other day who had
just arrived from the Marshalls via the northern route. 62 days by himself
and his ham radio! Says he's been doing this for 21 years and has been just
about everywhere you can go via water.
I definately couldn't do that! Stir crazy n a week!
Gordon
BTW, This was in Pt Angeles, Wa.

"Parallax" wrote in message
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(JAXAshby) wrote in message
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you know, grandma, you and I sometimes don't see eye to eye. But
sometimes we
do. Nice post.

The part of this that I have a problem with are "I just have too much
fun working". That's not the norm IME. I enjoyed my job, and I felt
that it was important. But I was not a bit sorry to retire and not to
have to deal with the commute and the attitude of the powers that be
that I would spend my time playing games or sleeping or gossiping
around the water cooler unless they were looking over my shoulder
every minute to be sure I was working.

Bob is one of those workaholic people who really wasn't happy unless
he was doing something. He's retired 3 or 4 times and then gone back
to work each time. One of the reasons I was OK with the idea of a
boat was because I KNEW at the outset that the boat would take a lot
of work, and I thought it would keep him busy and happy in retirement.

We now cruise for half (or a little more than half) of the year and
come back to our house in the summer. After 4 years, Bob has gotten
incredibly relaxed compared to before. This is a Good Thing.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'optimum social conditions' with regard
to boating. Do you mean that you are an introvert and need your
space and you don't think you could be cooped up together with someone
else for long? We've got a big enough boat that Bob can go off in his
own space if he gets annoyed of me.

Or are you an extrovert type person who is most happy in a group?
There's lots of opportunities to interface with others - lots of boats
cruise in a group and are on the radio to each other all the time.
That's not our way, although we (me particularly) do talked to folks a
lot - we just aren't joined at the hip to anyone else.

It may be that eventually you WILL want to "drop out" but that you
aren't at that point in your life yet. One of the things that's
important to know is when you reach the transition points in life and
to prepare for them.


grandma Rosalie








By "optimum social conditions", I mean I used to live in Wyoming and
thought it was crowded but still liked being able to see ppl from a
distance. My wife makes me nuts when she is aboard so I prefer
sailing alone.
For reasons I havent figgered out, the almighty has chosen to bless my
unworthiness with finding exactly what I should be doing on this earth
so I am unreasonably happy working. Cruising seems to be a way to get
out and get perspective to get more good ideas (about work). Its like
going for an extended walk and thinking. My role in life is to invent
weird techi things and I need a lot of equipment to do it so I need to
spend time at my lab. Even if I worked on cruising stuff, it would
take some ability to make things.

So, I am curious.....How do other ppl leave their boat in places? Do
you simply pay a fee in a marina (A marina?, what a weird concept.) or
leave her at pvt docks (thats what I normally do, meet stranger ppl
that way)?

I s'pose that if I could invent the optimum dinghy, I would be happy
to have made a contribution to society and be happy to cruise.....

BT, DT.

Consider a trailer boat; maybe even a stink.

We cruise a week or two at a time and bring the boat home in-between.

Nick in Spartanburg, SC
http://www.geocities.com/jeff_nicholas/BBR.html

"Parallax" wrote in message
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A key part of my plan is that the boat cannot
be such an investment that I would suffer a lot financially if she was
sunk, stolen, or otherwise destroyed while I am away from her. This
means settling for a low level of amenities but I am used to camping
so being on the boat is a luxury even with its comparatively spartan
accomodations.
I have not really worked out how to find places to "leave her" when I
go back to work each time but over the yrs I have always found strange
places to keep her (I have never had her in a marina). I have seen
places where I would like to leave her that had NO facilities, not
even a dock or even a road. This would mean long term anchoring
(maybe a couple weeks) and I would like to ask ppls opinions on how
best to do this. Any valuable equipment can be carried with me so
having things stolen doesnt bother me. I can easily disable the
engine making her less easy to steal. Maybe I can use hardened chain
going from a spot locked to her bow cleat to a submerged portion of
the anchor rode. Nothin will prevent a seriously determined thief but
most are less determined and my boat has been purposefully left
looking old and tired. I would even consider dumping dead fish into
the cockpit do deter any kids from using her for amorous activities or
as a home for the homeless.
I'd like to hear other ppl thoughts on cruising concepts that do not
involve "dropping out".

David OHara