Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.


Thanks for the ontopic threads well done great idea!!!!

Gee replace "every year"?? You blokes are rich beyond our
imagination:-) That free trade deal with the US must be really paying
off, hope we get ours through.

Warn water soap & a good scrub, I'd be wary of bleaches.

A bit of use in the sun with salt water & they'll be white enough
anyway, you do get some sun????:-)

K

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.


Thanks for the ontopic threads well done great idea!!!!

Gee replace "every year"?? You blokes are rich beyond our
imagination:-) That free trade deal with the US must be really paying
off, hope we get ours through.

Warn water soap & a good scrub, I'd be wary of bleaches.

A bit of use in the sun with salt water & they'll be white enough
anyway, you do get some sun????:-)

K

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Braided line intended for halyards and sheets are not the same
construction as those sold as dock lines. They stretch quite a
bit albeit maybe not as much as a laid line. In any case, we use
laid line most of the time. It was not my impression that Lloyd
was referring to dock lines exclusively. I can see replacing all
dock lines annually if they get a constant wookout though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"
said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her. Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Braided line intended for halyards and sheets are not the same
construction as those sold as dock lines. They stretch quite a
bit albeit maybe not as much as a laid line. In any case, we use
laid line most of the time. It was not my impression that Lloyd
was referring to dock lines exclusively. I can see replacing all
dock lines annually if they get a constant wookout though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"
said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her. Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

It was pretty clear you were talking about dock lines. Where is
the confisusion?

Doug

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:05:45 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
said:

Braided line intended for halyards and sheets are not the same
construction as those sold as dock lines.

Among other things, it's not made of nylon, is it? I was, of course,
talking
about dock lines.

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

It was pretty clear you were talking about dock lines. Where is
the confisusion?

Doug

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:05:45 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
said:

Braided line intended for halyards and sheets are not the same
construction as those sold as dock lines.

Among other things, it's not made of nylon, is it? I was, of course,
talking
about dock lines.

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Chafing gear doesn't do much for internal chafing. I have seen dock lines
destroy themselves from the inside out when they are constantly
worked over the course of a season. Very common in anchor rode
during extnded periods of heavy weather as well.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:05:45 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
said:

I can see replacing all
dock lines annually if they get a constant wookout though.
That's what chafing gear is for, no?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Chafing gear doesn't do much for internal chafing. I have seen dock lines
destroy themselves from the inside out when they are constantly
worked over the course of a season. Very common in anchor rode
during extnded periods of heavy weather as well.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:05:45 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
said:

I can see replacing all
dock lines annually if they get a constant wookout though.
That's what chafing gear is for, no?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Toss 'em in the washing machine on 'delicate' with some
Tide.
JR

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.

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Toss 'em in the washing machine on 'delicate' with some
Tide.
JR

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.

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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:31:05 +0000, Dave wrote:

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter" said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but this year
money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I replaced the dock
lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her. Of course
admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a good part of the
time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.


Hehe...No, I don't replace ALL the lines EVERY year. I used to have to replace
all the docklines every year when I moored at Mosquito Creek, because the
constant wash in there from commercial boats, Seabus, etc. wore them out. But
yes, often in the past I have replaced a line not because it was worn out, but
because it was dirty and slimy and green and yukky.

Oh, and to K.Smith: yes, we get sunshine (sunny today, actually) but I find the
lines end up more grey than "white", and the slime just dries on...

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem to sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that made much
sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less stretch than 3
strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have that stretch to take up
shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary low tides (not to mention the
fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye splice in 3 strand).. What do you
folks think?


Ya know, I've never thought of that: good point. Maybe if I used more strechy
lines at Mosquito Creek they would have lasted a little longer. As it is, I
prefer the braided lines simply because they feel better in my hand.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:31:05 +0000, Dave wrote:

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter" said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but this year
money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I replaced the dock
lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her. Of course
admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a good part of the
time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.


Hehe...No, I don't replace ALL the lines EVERY year. I used to have to replace
all the docklines every year when I moored at Mosquito Creek, because the
constant wash in there from commercial boats, Seabus, etc. wore them out. But
yes, often in the past I have replaced a line not because it was worn out, but
because it was dirty and slimy and green and yukky.

Oh, and to K.Smith: yes, we get sunshine (sunny today, actually) but I find the
lines end up more grey than "white", and the slime just dries on...

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem to sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that made much
sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less stretch than 3
strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have that stretch to take up
shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary low tides (not to mention the
fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye splice in 3 strand).. What do you
folks think?


Ya know, I've never thought of that: good point. Maybe if I used more strechy
lines at Mosquito Creek they would have lasted a little longer. As it is, I
prefer the braided lines simply because they feel better in my hand.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

When I was an avid caver, we would wash our climbing ropes
in Tide using a front loading washer (at a laundrymat of course :)
Use Downey in the rinse to give them a soft hand.

Doug
s/v Callista

"JR North" wrote in message
...
Toss 'em in the washing machine on 'delicate' with some
Tide.
JR

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to
clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.

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Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

When I was an avid caver, we would wash our climbing ropes
in Tide using a front loading washer (at a laundrymat of course :)
Use Downey in the rinse to give them a soft hand.

Doug
s/v Callista

"JR North" wrote in message
...
Toss 'em in the washing machine on 'delicate' with some
Tide.
JR

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to
clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.

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Ropes to the lubbers?

Tilt.

IMO, every one of those lines is a "rope" until it is employed as a bow line,
stern line, spring line, breast line, or etc.

It's OK to say "rope" around a boat. :-)

Here's the expanded definition from one of my favorite sources: The Sailor's
Illustrated Dictionary by Thompson Lenfesty and Captain Thompson Lenfest, Jr.

Begins........

rope: n. Cordage over 1-inch in circumference....

Interrupt.......
(my note: It's important not to confuse
circumference with diameter when evaluating that statement).

Resumes......
....When smaller than 1-inch, cordage is usually referred to as line, twine, or
small stuff. Rope is made of strands made up of yarns. Ropes on ships generally
have names accoprcing to thier use, such as boltrope, buoy rope, breast rope,
davit rope, wheel rope, bell rope, and so on. Some of the most specious and
arbitrary writing has arisen over the use of the word "rope" on seagoing
vessels. Some writers flatly declare that when cordage comes aboard a vessel it
is line unless it is specifically named, as with boltrope; but this bit of
mystique was unheard of a hundred years or so ago.

ends.......

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Ropes to the lubbers?

Tilt.

IMO, every one of those lines is a "rope" until it is employed as a bow line,
stern line, spring line, breast line, or etc.

It's OK to say "rope" around a boat. :-)

Here's the expanded definition from one of my favorite sources: The Sailor's
Illustrated Dictionary by Thompson Lenfesty and Captain Thompson Lenfest, Jr.

Begins........

rope: n. Cordage over 1-inch in circumference....

Interrupt.......
(my note: It's important not to confuse
circumference with diameter when evaluating that statement).

Resumes......
....When smaller than 1-inch, cordage is usually referred to as line, twine, or
small stuff. Rope is made of strands made up of yarns. Ropes on ships generally
have names accoprcing to thier use, such as boltrope, buoy rope, breast rope,
davit rope, wheel rope, bell rope, and so on. Some of the most specious and
arbitrary writing has arisen over the use of the word "rope" on seagoing
vessels. Some writers flatly declare that when cordage comes aboard a vessel it
is line unless it is specifically named, as with boltrope; but this bit of
mystique was unheard of a hundred years or so ago.

ends.......

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

On 8 Mar 2004 17:31:05 -0600, Dave wrote:


Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem to sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?


I agree. Laid line is very quick to eyesplice.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

Smoking in a bar is like peeing in a punchbowl.

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

On 8 Mar 2004 17:31:05 -0600, Dave wrote:


Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem to sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?


I agree. Laid line is very quick to eyesplice.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

Smoking in a bar is like peeing in a punchbowl.

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

I've used braided dock lines forever. Now I have floating docks, so I just
keep them all tight, no problem. I also use nothing but black, since it's
the most UV stable color, and doesn't show dirt. I wash them once a year or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite (or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

--


Keith
__
Drive defensively. Buy a tank.
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"
said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her. Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

I've used braided dock lines forever. Now I have floating docks, so I just
keep them all tight, no problem. I also use nothing but black, since it's
the most UV stable color, and doesn't show dirt. I wash them once a year or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite (or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

--


Keith
__
Drive defensively. Buy a tank.
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"
said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her. Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Keith,
Does this cause a lot of wear and tear on the washing machine? Do you put
the lines in a net bag or toss them in as is?
Merlin.
"Keith" wrote in message
...
I've used braided dock lines forever. Now I have floating docks, so I just
keep them all tight, no problem. I also use nothing but black, since it's
the most UV stable color, and doesn't show dirt. I wash them once a year
or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite (or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

--


Keith
__
Drive defensively. Buy a tank.
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"

said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her. Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a
good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Keith,
Does this cause a lot of wear and tear on the washing machine? Do you put
the lines in a net bag or toss them in as is?
Merlin.
"Keith" wrote in message
...
I've used braided dock lines forever. Now I have floating docks, so I just
keep them all tight, no problem. I also use nothing but black, since it's
the most UV stable color, and doesn't show dirt. I wash them once a year
or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite (or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

--


Keith
__
Drive defensively. Buy a tank.
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"

said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her. Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a
good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

I usually braided the lines before putting them into the washing
machine. Secure the ends with some string to keep them from
unraveling during the wash.

Doug
s/v Callista

"MMC" wrote in message
om...
Keith,
Does this cause a lot of wear and tear on the washing machine? Do you put
the lines in a net bag or toss them in as is?
Merlin.
"Keith" wrote in message
...
I've used braided dock lines forever. Now I have floating docks, so I
just
keep them all tight, no problem. I also use nothing but black, since
it's
the most UV stable color, and doesn't show dirt. I wash them once a year
or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite (or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the
dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

--


Keith
__
Drive defensively. Buy a tank.
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"

said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I
replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her.
Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a
good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem
to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that
made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have
that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary
low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

I usually braided the lines before putting them into the washing
machine. Secure the ends with some string to keep them from
unraveling during the wash.

Doug
s/v Callista

"MMC" wrote in message
om...
Keith,
Does this cause a lot of wear and tear on the washing machine? Do you put
the lines in a net bag or toss them in as is?
Merlin.
"Keith" wrote in message
...
I've used braided dock lines forever. Now I have floating docks, so I
just
keep them all tight, no problem. I also use nothing but black, since
it's
the most UV stable color, and doesn't show dirt. I wash them once a year
or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite (or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the
dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

--


Keith
__
Drive defensively. Buy a tank.
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"

said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I
replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her.
Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a
good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem
to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that
made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have
that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary
low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Nah, just throw them in. They will come out all in a bunch, but it just
takes a little while to untangle them. It's easier if you use fabric
softner. No abnormal stress or wear on the machine, of course don't overload
it.

--


Keith
__
"I want to rush for 1,000 or 1,500 yards, whichever comes first.
-New Orleans Saint RB George Rogers
"MMC" wrote in message
om...
Keith,
Does this cause a lot of wear and tear on the washing machine? Do you put
the lines in a net bag or toss them in as is?
Merlin.
"Keith" wrote in message
...
I've used braided dock lines forever. Now I have floating docks, so I
just
keep them all tight, no problem. I also use nothing but black, since
it's
the most UV stable color, and doesn't show dirt. I wash them once a year
or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite (or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the
dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

--


Keith
__
Drive defensively. Buy a tank.
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"

said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I
replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her.
Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a
good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem
to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that
made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have
that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary
low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Nah, just throw them in. They will come out all in a bunch, but it just
takes a little while to untangle them. It's easier if you use fabric
softner. No abnormal stress or wear on the machine, of course don't overload
it.

--


Keith
__
"I want to rush for 1,000 or 1,500 yards, whichever comes first.
-New Orleans Saint RB George Rogers
"MMC" wrote in message
om...
Keith,
Does this cause a lot of wear and tear on the washing machine? Do you put
the lines in a net bag or toss them in as is?
Merlin.
"Keith" wrote in message
...
I've used braided dock lines forever. Now I have floating docks, so I
just
keep them all tight, no problem. I also use nothing but black, since
it's
the most UV stable color, and doesn't show dirt. I wash them once a year
or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite (or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the
dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

--


Keith
__
Drive defensively. Buy a tank.
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"

said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I
replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her.
Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a
good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem
to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that
made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have
that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary
low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

"Keith" writes:
I wash them once a year or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite (or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the
dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

Bingo, exactly my procedure.

Use a net bag for anything under 3/8", otherwise just put them in the
machine.

I'd usually wash them twice.

HTH


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

"Keith" writes:
I wash them once a year or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite (or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the
dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

Bingo, exactly my procedure.

Use a net bag for anything under 3/8", otherwise just put them in the
machine.

I'd usually wash them twice.

HTH


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

I have had good luck using a consumer grade pressure washer to clean
the green off my lines. I had some lines that looked aweful and came
up beautifully after pressure washing. It is a little time consuming,
but the results are good. The trick is to get close enough with the
pressure washer to clean the line, but not do any damage.

Tim
http://www.tgw.net

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

I have had good luck using a consumer grade pressure washer to clean
the green off my lines. I had some lines that looked aweful and came
up beautifully after pressure washing. It is a little time consuming,
but the results are good. The trick is to get close enough with the
pressure washer to clean the line, but not do any damage.

Tim
http://www.tgw.net

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Is the boat in the water all year? If so, how about buying two sets of lines
(after money is more available) and rotating them. Take some home to dry for
a month, while the others turn green on the boat.

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Is the boat in the water all year? If so, how about buying two sets of lines
(after money is more available) and rotating them. Take some home to dry for
a month, while the others turn green on the boat.

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

When I get a particularly groady looking line, I just toss it into the 5-gallon
bucket of boatwash while I'm scrub brushing the boat.

By the time the boat has been soaped down, there has been enough "agitation" in
the bucket to clean the line up a lot.

Spread the soapy line on the deck and rinse it off when rinsing the last
section of the boat.

Not as fancy as using a front-loading washer, but it doesn't involve schlepping
lines off to the laundromat or home to the family machine. Sticking a slimy
green line into the Maytag may require a spouse with
reasonably tolerant standards.

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

When I get a particularly groady looking line, I just toss it into the 5-gallon
bucket of boatwash while I'm scrub brushing the boat.

By the time the boat has been soaped down, there has been enough "agitation" in
the bucket to clean the line up a lot.

Spread the soapy line on the deck and rinse it off when rinsing the last
section of the boat.

Not as fancy as using a front-loading washer, but it doesn't involve schlepping
lines off to the laundromat or home to the family machine. Sticking a slimy
green line into the Maytag may require a spouse with
reasonably tolerant standards.

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

timwh wrote:
I have had good luck using a consumer grade pressure washer to clean
the green off my lines. I had some lines that looked aweful and came
up beautifully after pressure washing.

I'd worry about the pressure washer causing abrasion to the lines as it
was cleaning them.

DSK

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

timwh wrote:
I have had good luck using a consumer grade pressure washer to clean
the green off my lines. I had some lines that looked aweful and came
up beautifully after pressure washing.

I'd worry about the pressure washer causing abrasion to the lines as it
was cleaning them.

DSK

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Many folks say not to put lines in the washing machine but I find that they
get clean and stay supple and comfortable to handle after being run through
the machine. Any frayed ends will worsen, so if possible fix that before
washing the lines. (Allocate plenty of time to untie them! They really get
knotted together)! If you have a mix of colored and white lines, I'd wash
each color separately.

Don Dando


"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Many folks say not to put lines in the washing machine but I find that they
get clean and stay supple and comfortable to handle after being run through
the machine. Any frayed ends will worsen, so if possible fix that before
washing the lines. (Allocate plenty of time to untie them! They really get
knotted together)! If you have a mix of colored and white lines, I'd wash
each color separately.

Don Dando


"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight. They're perfectly servicable, just rather
green from the Wet Coast's winter wetness. What's a good/safe way to clean
them? I heard an oxygen-based bleach like Oxy-Clean was good for sails -
how about dacron lines?

Same question for sail covers.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36 - shiny engine, not so shiny lines.

Cleaning lines (ropes to the lubbers!)
 

Actually, the first time I tried to wash lines in a regular washing machine
they ended up tightly wrapped around the agitator, and several strands
got pulled under the agitator and jammed. Once I got it all cleared out,
the lines were chafed due to the friction. Started braiding them and using
a front loading machine after that.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Nah, just throw them in. They will come out all in a bunch, but it just
takes a little while to untangle them. It's easier if you use fabric
softner. No abnormal stress or wear on the machine, of course don't
overload
it.

--


Keith
__
"I want to rush for 1,000 or 1,500 yards, whichever comes first.
-New Orleans Saint RB George Rogers
"MMC" wrote in message
om...
Keith,
Does this cause a lot of wear and tear on the washing machine? Do you
put
the lines in a net bag or toss them in as is?
Merlin.
"Keith" wrote in message
...
I've used braided dock lines forever. Now I have floating docks, so I
just
keep them all tight, no problem. I also use nothing but black, since
it's
the most UV stable color, and doesn't show dirt. I wash them once a
year
or
so in the washing machine on gentle cycle, warm water, with Woolite
(or
cheap Wal-Mart substitute) and use fabric softner. DON'T dry in the
dryer,
just hang out or put back in use.

--


Keith
__
Drive defensively. Buy a tank.
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:45:34 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter"

said:

Spring Cleaning time for Far Cove! I usually replace the lines, but
this year money's a bit tight.

Good lord, talk about conspicuous consumption. I don't think I
replaced
the
dock lines on my old Islander 24 in the entire 15 years I owned her.
Of
course admittedly they didn't get much of a chance to chafe, since a
good
part of the time was spent on a mooring rather than at a dock.

Does bring up a question, however. I see that the marine stores seem
to
sell
braided nylon lines for tying up to a dock. I've never thought that
made
much sense, since my impression is that braided has considerably
less
stretch than 3 strand of the same diameter, and I'd prefer to have
that
stretch to take up shock and to some extent allow for extraordinary
low
tides (not to mention the fact that it's a lot easier to throw an
eye
splice
in 3 strand).. What do you folks think?

Dave