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"JimC" wrote in message
... Well, come on... what are the advantages of heavier boats? You claim they're more comfortable. Is this just at the dock or perhaps it includes offshore. Yes, it's a rhetorial question. I've discussed those advantages many times in prior discussions, Ganz, but you apparently prefer to forget such comments and stick with your caricatures (what you like to consider as inexperienced, naive Mac owners). - In answer to your "rhetorial" question, larger, conventional keeled sailboats are heavier and usually more comfortable in heavy weather; they can be faster under sail, due to their longer water lines; and they have greater storage capacity suitable for provisioning for extended crossings. With a deep keel, they can normally point higher. And there's usually more room on their deck for sexy girls to see and be seen. Also, don't forget that if the skipper has inferiority problems, they can be a good ego booster. Jim Yep. I like the answer. Now, take a look at your Mac. What do you see? (answer: none of the above) LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message ... Well, come on... what are the advantages of heavier boats? You claim they're more comfortable. Is this just at the dock or perhaps it includes offshore. Yes, it's a rhetorial question. I've discussed those advantages many times in prior discussions, Ganz, but you apparently prefer to forget such comments and stick with your caricatures (what you like to consider as inexperienced, naive Mac owners). - In answer to your "rhetorial" question, larger, conventional keeled sailboats are heavier and usually more comfortable in heavy weather; they can be faster under sail, due to their longer water lines; and they have greater storage capacity suitable for provisioning for extended crossings. With a deep keel, they can normally point higher. And there's usually more room on their deck for sexy girls to see and be seen. Also, don't forget that if the skipper has inferiority problems, they can be a good ego booster. Jim Yep. I like the answer. Now, take a look at your Mac. What do you see? (answer: none of the above) LOL There are two Macs (a 25D and 26D) in my local racing circle that have been to the Bahamas several times. Does that count? Richard |
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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "JimC" wrote in message ... Well, come on... what are the advantages of heavier boats? You claim they're more comfortable. Is this just at the dock or perhaps it includes offshore. Yes, it's a rhetorial question. I've discussed those advantages many times in prior discussions, Ganz, but you apparently prefer to forget such comments and stick with your caricatures (what you like to consider as inexperienced, naive Mac owners). - In answer to your "rhetorial" question, larger, conventional keeled sailboats are heavier and usually more comfortable in heavy weather; they can be faster under sail, due to their longer water lines; and they have greater storage capacity suitable for provisioning for extended crossings. With a deep keel, they can normally point higher. And there's usually more room on their deck for sexy girls to see and be seen. Also, don't forget that if the skipper has inferiority problems, they can be a good ego booster. Jim Yep. I like the answer. Now, take a look at your Mac. What do you see? (answer: none of the above) LOL There are two Macs (a 25D and 26D) in my local racing circle that have been to the Bahamas several times. Does that count? Richard No idea. Jim... does that count? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote: "JimC" wrote in message ... Well, come on... what are the advantages of heavier boats? You claim they're more comfortable. Is this just at the dock or perhaps it includes offshore. Yes, it's a rhetorial question. I've discussed those advantages many times in prior discussions, Ganz, but you apparently prefer to forget such comments and stick with your caricatures (what you like to consider as inexperienced, naive Mac owners). - In answer to your "rhetorial" question, larger, conventional keeled sailboats are heavier and usually more comfortable in heavy weather; they can be faster under sail, due to their longer water lines; and they have greater storage capacity suitable for provisioning for extended crossings. With a deep keel, they can normally point higher. And there's usually more room on their deck for sexy girls to see and be seen. Also, don't forget that if the skipper has inferiority problems, they can be a good ego booster. Jim Yep. I like the answer. Now, take a look at your Mac. What do you see? (answer: none of the above) LOL What do I see? Among other things, I see the following: 1) A boat that is not essentially limited to being sailed in the immediate area. - The Mac26M can be quickly and easily transported by the owner (with a pickup or SUV) in one weekend to waters hundreds of miles from it's berth or storage area, thereby making available hundreds of sailing areas that wouldn't be conveniently available with a larger, keeled vessel. (Without having it hauled out of the water and hiring a truck to transport the boat to a distant sailing area.) - Practically speaking, most large, conventional keeled boats are limited to sailing within a day or so of their marinas unless the owners are retired or want to spend several weeks of vacation. (Of course, you can always point to exceptions, but they ARE the exceptions, not the usual practice for most owners, most of the time.) 2) A boat that doesn't have to be berthed in a marina. Thus, the storage fees are substantially less than most marina fees, and ongoing lease and maintenance fees can be substantially reduced. Or, if desired, I can (and do) choose to keep it in a Marina, at a relatively modest fee because of its size and limited draft. 3) A coastal cruiser that can be sailed in a variety of waters, including offshore, with the understanding that it isn't recommended for extended ocean crossings and isn't as comfortable in heavy weather. The boat has plenty of ballast and plenty of righting forces. Also, it's suitable for sailing and/or motoring in shallow or restricted waters that aren't available to large, fixed keel vessels. 4} A boat that incorporates a number of safety features, including positive floatation that will keep the boat afloat even if the hull is compromised. The boat is also designed to accommodate a large outboard which gives the skipper more options in the event of heavy weather, e.g., for returning to port quickly. 5) A boat that, despite its relatively modest size, has substantial cabin space and berths for five people, including a queen-size aft berth. 6) A boat that is small and light enough to permit easy handling and docking by one person. 7) A boat that is priced substantially lower than conventional larger boats (comparing new prices with new prices and used prices with used prices, of course). This permits getting a fully equipped vessel (with accessories such as autopilot, chart reader, roller reefing, 50-hp motor, lines led aft, radio, stereo, etc., etc.), still within an affordable total cost. 8) A boat that can be sailed or motored with or without the ballast, and that can be trailord without the ballast, making it a substantially lighter load when trailoring. 9) A boat that can have a 5.5 feet draft for sailing (with dagger-board down) but that can be converted to one with only 1.5-ft draft in shallow waters or waters with variable depth, or for anchoring in shallow waters, or for bringing it up a ramp for trailoring, or for simply bringing the boat ashore on a beach for a picnic or the like. Or, the dagger board can be only partially retracted for increased speed on a reach or a run, or completely retracted for motoring on a plane. 10) A sailboat that, unlike 90 percent of the boats discussed on this ng, isn't limited to hull speed. With the (typical) 50-hp to 60-hp outboard, the Mac 26M can be motored on a plane at two or three times hull speed. While some on this ng have ridiculed this feature, it offers a number of rather important advantages. - For example, the skipper can get the boat out to a preferred sailing area substantially sooner, PERMITTING MORE SAILING TIME in the desired area. Similarly, at the end of the day, he can get the boat back more quickly, regardless of wind direction, again PERMITTING MORE SAILING TIME (since he can stay out later and still get the family home in time for dinner or other activities). Practically speaking, it's also an advantage of the wife or kids or guests are getting tired of sailing and want to get back ASAP. This capability is also a safety factor, as mentioned above, in the event the skipper wants to bring the boat in quickly to avoid heavy weather, or move down the coast to avoid a squall, etc. 11) A boat that has clean lines and a modern, streamlined design. - Admittedly, this is a matter of taste. - (I also like the looks of some of the large conventional boats, particularly if they are long enough.) But if we are comparing apples to apples, consider the looks of other boats of 26-foot length. - For example, the smaller Island Packets look something like a tug boat to me. All I know is that it looks good to me and my guests. - Every time I see him, the owner of the boat in the next slip compliments me on what a good-looking boat it is. Again, I ALREADY STATED THAT THIS IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL TASTE, DIDN'T I? So there's really no need to tell me that you don't like the Mac, and prefer something else. - More power to you. 12) Finally, I see a boat that is FUN TO SAIL! On my Mac 26M, when I get to the sailing area, raise the sails, turn off the motor, and sense the boat moving under sail, it's an amazing, almost magical experience. In contrast to some of the heavier, conventional boats that I have sailed, the Mac is sufficiently light that it gives you a 'kick in the pants' as it accelerates under sail. Although larger boats are steadier, and more comfortable in choppy waters (sort of like a large, heavy Lincoln Town Car or equivalent) the Macs are responsive enough to give you more of a feel of the changing conditions (sort of like the feel of a sports car, such as a Porsche (a car that is fun to drive but not quite as smooth or comfortable on long trips as the Lincoln). Also, in moderate conditions, I sometimes like to set the boat on autopilot and sit on the deck watching the boat gliding silently through the water. - Again, it's an ethereal, almost magical experience. - - - Does that answer your question Ganz? - Or do you want a few more? Jim |
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"JimC" wrote in message
... What do I see? Among other things, I see the following: Step 1) Open eyes. 1) A boat that is not essentially limited to being sailed in the immediate area. - The Mac26M can be quickly and easily transported by the owner (with a pickup or SUV) in one weekend to waters hundreds of miles from it's berth or storage area, thereby making available hundreds of sailing areas that wouldn't be conveniently available with a larger, keeled vessel. (Without having it hauled out of the water and hiring a truck to transport the boat to a distant sailing area.) - Practically speaking, most large, conventional keeled boats are limited to sailing within a day or so of their marinas unless the owners are retired or want to spend several weeks of vacation. (Of course, you can always point to exceptions, but they ARE the exceptions, not the usual practice for most owners, most of the time.) Are you claiming that my boat can't be sailing in areas other than where she's berthed??? I prefer to actually sail to places not put my boat on truck. 2) A boat that doesn't have to be berthed in a marina. Thus, the storage fees are substantially less than most marina fees, and ongoing lease and maintenance fees can be substantially reduced. Or, if desired, I can (and do) choose to keep it in a Marina, at a relatively modest fee because of its size and limited draft. Ongoing lease? Wow...stunning news. A 26' boat is less expensive to berth than a 30. 3) A coastal cruiser that can be sailed in a variety of waters, including offshore, with the understanding that it isn't recommended for extended ocean crossings and isn't as comfortable in heavy weather. The boat has plenty of ballast and plenty of righting forces. Also, it's suitable for sailing and/or motoring in shallow or restricted waters that aren't available to large, fixed keel vessels. It might be a coastal cruiser a couple of months a year, but I assure you it's not a coastal cruiser out here 95% of the time, unless you count foundering on rocks as coastal cruising. 4} A boat that incorporates a number of safety features, including positive floatation that will keep the boat afloat even if the hull is compromised. The boat is also designed to accommodate a large outboard which gives the skipper more options in the event of heavy weather, e.g., for returning to port quickly. I bet you have PFDs too! Yeah, a large outboard to get you out of trouble when either the skipper fails or the boat is about to fail. 5) A boat that, despite its relatively modest size, has substantial cabin space and berths for five people, including a queen-size aft berth. Stuff em in... I bet you can. 6) A boat that is small and light enough to permit easy handling and docking by one person. Compared to what? My Sabre is 30' and 8000 lbs. I have no problem sailing and docking in fairly rigorous conditions. I've seen Mac sailors trying to dock, and they did so quite nicely... coming in like freight and jamming it in reverse at the last second. I've also seen them "sailing" on the bay in 20+ kts... sails a flappin, boat heeled, people looking very scared, and finally, the skipper gets the engine going just to get it under control. 7) A boat that is priced substantially lower than conventional larger boats (comparing new prices with new prices and used prices with used prices, of course). This permits getting a fully equipped vessel (with accessories such as autopilot, chart reader, roller reefing, 50-hp motor, lines led aft, radio, stereo, etc., etc.), still within an affordable total cost. Well, you got me there... cheap compared to used boats of higher quality. 8) A boat that can be sailed or motored with or without the ballast, and that can be trailord without the ballast, making it a substantially lighter load when trailoring. Get a bigger fricken car. 9) A boat that can have a 5.5 feet draft for sailing (with dagger-board down) but that can be converted to one with only 1.5-ft draft in shallow waters or waters with variable depth, or for anchoring in shallow waters, or for bringing it up a ramp for trailoring, or for simply bringing the boat ashore on a beach for a picnic or the like. Or, the dagger board can be only partially retracted for increased speed on a reach or a run, or completely retracted for motoring on a plane. You sure think trailering is the end all and be all of sailing. Got news for you... 10) A sailboat that, unlike 90 percent of the boats discussed on this ng, isn't limited to hull speed. With the (typical) 50-hp to 60-hp outboard, the Mac 26M can be motored on a plane at two or three times hull speed. bs removed This capability is also a safety factor, as mentioned above, in the event the skipper wants to bring the boat in quickly to avoid heavy weather, or move down the coast to avoid a squall, etc. Yeah, and you're responsible for your wake. Whoooo... heavy weather. Scary! When they announce a small craft advisory (just about every day in the Summer), we head out not in. 11) A boat that has clean lines and a modern, streamlined design. - Admittedly, this is a matter of taste. Admittedly, bad taste in my opinion. 12) Finally, I see a boat that is FUN TO SAIL! On my Mac 26M, when I get to the sailing area, raise the sails, turn off the motor, and sense the boat moving under sail, it's an amazing, almost magical experience. In Say it isn't so! You turn off the engine?? That's mightly brave of you! bs removed - - - Does that answer your question Ganz? - Or do you want a few more? Sure does!! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote: "JimC" wrote in message ... What do I see? Among other things, I see the following: Step 1) Open eyes. Open yours. 1) A boat that is not essentially limited to being sailed in the immediate area. - The Mac26M can be quickly and easily transported by the owner (with a pickup or SUV) in one weekend to waters hundreds of miles from it's berth or storage area, thereby making available hundreds of sailing areas that wouldn't be conveniently available with a larger, keeled vessel. (Without having it hauled out of the water and hiring a truck to transport the boat to a distant sailing area.) - Practically speaking, most large, conventional keeled boats are limited to sailing within a day or so of their marinas unless the owners are retired or want to spend several weeks of vacation. (Of course, you can always point to exceptions, but they ARE the exceptions, not the usual practice for most owners, most of the time.) Are you claiming that my boat can't be sailing in areas other than where she's berthed??? Read my note Ganz. What I said was that the Mac can be quickly and easily transported by the owner with a pickup or SUV in one weekend to waters hundreds of miles away. (Making the Mac more versatile and giving the owner more choices.) Your boat obviously can be sailed in areas other than where it's berthed, but it can't be easily transported by the owner with a pickup or SUV in one weekend to waters hundreds of miles away. (Which is what I posted in the first place, in case you didn't take the time to read my note.) I prefer to actually sail to places not put my boat on truck. Can you sail 1500 miles in one weekend Ganz? I would sure like to see that. - Let me know when you are about to move out. 2) A boat that doesn't have to be berthed in a marina. Thus, the storage fees are substantially less than most marina fees, and ongoing lease and maintenance fees can be substantially reduced. Or, if desired, I can (and do) choose to keep it in a Marina, at a relatively modest fee because of its size and limited draft. Ongoing lease? Wow...stunning news. A 26' boat is less expensive to berth than a 30. Storage and maintenance fees can be substantially less, Ganz, because you don't have to keep the boat in a slip. Regarding slip fees, I get a reduced rate because, with the Mac's shallow draft, I can leave the boat in a shallow slip that wouldn't be suitable for a conventional boat with deep keel. 3) A coastal cruiser that can be sailed in a variety of waters, including offshore, with the understanding that it isn't recommended for extended ocean crossings and isn't as comfortable in heavy weather. The boat has plenty of ballast and plenty of righting forces. Also, it's suitable for sailing and/or motoring in shallow or restricted waters that aren't available to large, fixed keel vessels. It might be a coastal cruiser a couple of months a year, but I assure you it's not a coastal cruiser out here 95% of the time, unless you count foundering on rocks as coastal cruising. Don't know where "out here" is Ganz.- Maybe you could be a little more specific. But in any event, the Mac is maneuverable and can be motored or sailed around rocks and in shallow waters most fixed-keel boats couldn't manage. 4} A boat that incorporates a number of safety features, including positive floatation that will keep the boat afloat even if the hull is compromised. The boat is also designed to accommodate a large outboard which gives the skipper more options in the event of heavy weather, e.g., for returning to port quickly. I bet you have PFDs too! Yeah, a large outboard to get you out of trouble when either the skipper fails or the boat is about to fail. What's your point Ganz? That the boat SHOULDN'T have such safety measures?- How long would YOUR boat stay afloat if it's hull were substantially compromised? With a 6-inch puncture, for example? 5) A boat that, despite its relatively modest size, has substantial cabin space and berths for five people, including a queen-size aft berth. Stuff em in... I bet you can. Again, your point is:.......? 6) A boat that is small and light enough to permit easy handling and docking by one person. Compared to what? My Sabre is 30' and 8000 lbs. I have no problem sailing and docking in fairly rigorous conditions. I've seen Mac sailors trying to dock, and they did so quite nicely... coming in like freight and jamming it in reverse at the last second. I've also seen them "sailing" on the bay in 20+ kts... sails a flappin, boat heeled, people looking very scared, and finally, the skipper gets the engine going just to get it under control. Mine has three reefing points on the main, and a roller furling jib. I seldom have problems keeping the boat under control. 7) A boat that is priced substantially lower than conventional larger boats (comparing new prices with new prices and used prices with used prices, of course). This permits getting a fully equipped vessel (with accessories such as autopilot, chart reader, roller reefing, 50-hp motor, lines led aft, radio, stereo, etc., etc.), still within an affordable total cost. Well, you got me there... cheap compared to used boats of higher quality. Not necessarily "cheap," but a good value when compared with some larger, conventional boats. Also, If buying a new boat, you may loose multiple $$$$ in depreciation the first few years. Macs keep their value relatively well, but even more importantly, you haven't sunk as much money into it in the first place. (To make this perfectly clear, I'm not saying that the Macs don't depreciate. What I'm saying is that the total depreciation, in dollars, is substantially less than would experienced if buying a new Tartan, Sabre, Benateux, Catalina, or the like.) Jim 8) A boat that can be sailed or motored with or without the ballast, and that can be trailord without the ballast, making it a substantially lighter load when trailoring. Get a bigger fricken car. Could I tow your Sabre with my Mercury Marquis Ganz? How about a Ford pickup? 9) A boat that can have a 5.5 feet draft for sailing (with dagger-board down) but that can be converted to one with only 1.5-ft draft in shallow waters or waters with variable depth, or for anchoring in shallow waters, or for bringing it up a ramp for trailoring, or for simply bringing the boat ashore on a beach for a picnic or the like. Or, the dagger board can be only partially retracted for increased speed on a reach or a run, or completely retracted for motoring on a plane. You sure think trailering is the end all and be all of sailing. Got news for you... Ganz, where do you get an emphasis on trailoring from the above paragraph? I mentioned the following: a) sailing, with dagger-board down b} conversion to 1.5 ft draft for shallow waters, or c) adapatable for use in waters of variable depth d) capable of being anchored in shallow waters e) ease of bringing up a ramp for trailoring f) ability to beach the boat for a picnic or the like g) ability to partially retract the dagger boatd for increased speed ona reach or run h) capability of being retracted for increased speed when motoring on a plane In other words, of the eight advantages or functions listed above, only one relates to trailoring. - Yet you interpret the entire list as indicating I think "trailering is the end all and be all of sailing." Sorry Ganz, but you aren't making any sense whatsoever. In fact, you're making an ass of yourself. As to sailing the Mac, check out the other sections below this one, and in particular, paragraph 12. 10) A sailboat that, unlike 90 percent of the boats discussed on this ng, isn't limited to hull speed. With the (typical) 50-hp to 60-hp outboard, the Mac 26M can be motored on a plane at two or three times hull speed. bs removed This capability is also a safety factor, as mentioned above, in the event the skipper wants to bring the boat in quickly to avoid heavy weather, or move down the coast to avoid a squall, etc. Yeah, and you're responsible for your wake. Whoooo... heavy weather. Scary! When they announce a small craft advisory (just about every day in the Summer), we head out not in. Actually, I do watch the wake and watch to see that I don't interfere with other boats. Obviously, the speed and, when under sail, the set of the sails have to be appropriate for the conditions. 11) A boat that has clean lines and a modern, streamlined design. - Admittedly, this is a matter of taste. Admittedly, bad taste in my opinion. 12) Finally, I see a boat that is FUN TO SAIL! On my Mac 26M, when I get to the sailing area, raise the sails, turn off the motor, and sense the boat moving under sail, it's an amazing, almost magical experience. In Say it isn't so! You turn off the engine?? That's mightly brave of you! bs removed Important deleted material replaced: .. In contrast to some of the heavier, conventional boats that I have sailed, the Mac is sufficiently light that it gives you a 'kick in the pants' as it accelerates under sail. Although larger boats are steadier, and more comfortable in choppy waters (sort of like a large, heavy Lincoln Town Car or equivalent) the Macs are responsive enough to give you more of a feel of the changing conditions (sort of like the feel of a sports car, such as a Porsche (a car that is fun to drive but not quite as smooth or comfortable on long trips as the Lincoln). Also, in moderate conditions, I sometimes like to set the boat on autopilot and sit on the deck watching the boat gliding silently through the water. - Again, it's an ethereal, almost magical experience. - - - Does that answer your question Ganz? - Or do you want a few more? Sure does!! Have a nice evening Ganz. - Next time try to read and respond to what what I am actually posting instead of responding to your own distortions of my notes and to the "Mac owner caracatures" you love to sneak into the discussion. I hesitate to bring this up, Ganz, but you seem to be getting further and further afield, wandering about as if you don't know where you are. You can't even understand what's being posted, much less come up with a rational response. - You're loosing it Ganz! Jim |
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"JimC" wrote in message
. .. Read my note Ganz. What I said was that the Mac can be quickly and easily transported by the owner with a pickup or SUV Which has nothing to do with actual sailing. I prefer to actually sail to places not put my boat on truck. Can you sail 1500 miles in one weekend Ganz? I would sure like to see that. - Let me know when you are about to move out. No. Neither can you. You can drive there in a day if you floor it. Storage and maintenance fees can be substantially less... I can leave the boat in a shallow slip that wouldn't be suitable for a conventional boat Well, you got me there. It's not a conventional boat. It might be a coastal cruiser a couple of months a year, but I assure you it's not a coastal cruiser out here 95% of the time, unless you count foundering on rocks as coastal cruising. Don't know where "out here" is Ganz.- Maybe you could be a little more specific. But in any event, the Mac is maneuverable and can be motored or sailed around rocks and in shallow waters most fixed-keel boats couldn't manage. SF bay and outside in the Pacific. Please don't ask me to send you a google map link. What's your point Ganz? That the boat SHOULDN'T have such safety measures?- How long would YOUR boat stay afloat if it's hull were substantially compromised? With a 6-inch puncture, for example? I stay off the rocks. I know where and when is appropriate to my craft. So, what you're saying is that you're so paranoid of sinking, you buy a piece of junk that just won't sink... 1 hole or 20. Sounds like packing peanuts. Mine has three reefing points on the main, and a roller furling jib. I seldom have problems keeping the boat under control. Out here, you'll need all three reefs all the time. Well, you got me there... cheap compared to used boats of higher quality. Not necessarily "cheap," (but possible.... glad you admit it) Could I tow your Sabre with my Mercury Marquis Ganz? How about a Ford pickup? Why would I want to try??? I prefer to sail. Ganz, where do you get an emphasis on trailoring from the above paragraph? self-serving crap deleted In the last several paragraphs. Please feel free to repost them if it turns you on. Actually, I do watch the wake and watch to see that I don't interfere with other boats. Obviously, the speed and, when under sail, the set of the sails have to be appropriate for the conditions. Suggestion... look where you're going, leave the engine off. LOL more self-serving bs removed Ah, the personal attack... and I only called you foolish for thinking you could take your boat offshore.. I must be losing it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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JimC wrote:
1) A boat that is not essentially limited to being sailed in the immediate area. - The Mac26M can be quickly and easily transported by the owner (with a pickup or SUV) in one weekend to waters hundreds of miles from it's berth or storage area. So can many many many other small ~ medium sized sailboats. My sailboat data base has about 1600 trailerable boats (and this is probably less than half of all the different types that have been produced in the U.S. & Canada). 2) A boat that doesn't have to be berthed in a marina. Isn't this kinda the same as #1? 3) A coastal cruiser that can be sailed in a variety of waters, Isn't this kinda the same as #1, again? including offshore, with the understanding that it isn't recommended for extended ocean crossings and isn't as comfortable in heavy weather. Ha ha ha... you mean, if you bring lots of duct tape you might return with most of what you started with? Frankly, having seen Mac 26Xs & Ms sailing in relatively sheltered waters in 15 knot winds & 2 ~ 3 feet of chop... and having trouble coping with these conditions when not actually suffering breakdowns... I can't imagine sailing one "offshore in heavy weather" for more than about 15 minutes. 4} A boat that incorporates a number of safety features, including positive floatation Again, a common feature shared by many other boats. .... The boat is also designed to accommodate a large outboard which gives the skipper more options in the event of heavy weather, e.g., for returning to port quickly. Again, ha ha ha. For one thing, the speed of the Mac26X~M is very much exaggerated. It certainly won't outrun any storms at 15 knots or less; and the hull shape & stability is such that it will be very problematic to handle it at any speed in really rough weather. 7) A boat that is priced substantially lower than conventional larger boats Or conventional boats of similar accomodation... and there you have it in a nutshell. The Mac26X~M is a portable cheap hotel room. Not that there's anything wrong with that. 9) A boat that can have a 5.5 feet draft for sailing (with dagger-board down) but that can be converted to one with only 1.5-ft draft in shallow waters Again, a feature shared by many many many other boats. 10) A sailboat that, unlike 90 percent of the boats discussed on this ng, isn't limited to hull speed. Isn't this a repeat of something from #4 above? 12) Finally, I see a boat that is FUN TO SAIL! A matter of taste. If the "magic of sail" to you means having big white pieces of cloth flopping around from a pole while you lurch aimlessly across the water, yeah that'll do it. Try sailing a Laser or an Albacore or a 505 or an Etchells or a Nacra or a Melges 24 or any of hundreds of actual high performance sailing craft... you don't even have to get stressed out and try one of the double-trap skiffs... boats that will equal or exceed the wind velocity and plane readily UNDER SAIL. Frankly, for anybody with any experience on sailing craft of any real performance level, the "magic" of sailing a Mac26X~M is a big yawn. But it's all a matter of taste. You clearly like your boat, what's funny is the level of delusion you have to maintain. DSK |
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