"Ernie Harrod" wrote in message
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You are one sick puppy. Do you get a thrill out of stalking people? You
clearly know nothing about boats or engines, but you know a heck of a lot
about stalking. **** off.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in
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You are one sick puppy. Do you get a thrill out of stalking people?
You clearly know nothing about boats or engines, but you know a heck
of a lot about stalking. **** off.



Cap'n J, is it running good?

MOST important is what happens to the LEVEL on the dipstick...does it drop
a little?

Diesel engines USE oil, some more than others. Anyone you know who has a
diesel that doesn't use oil (they usually brag about it), either has water
intrusion, which is easy to spot, or fuel intrusion past the rings, which
isn't until it's bad.

Oil analysis is used to EXTEND oil change intervals on engines that use a
LOT of oil, big diesels using gallons and gallons. As yours is not
anywhere near this category and an oil change is so cheap, screw all that
and just change the oil every hundred hours OR SIX MONTHS, anyway. It
doesn't break down in a hundred hours or 6 months sitting there full of
fuel and acids and water so just changing it is fine....UNLESS THE LEVEL
RISES!..which is BAD...

They crank fine at 25,000 hours if you do this...(c;

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
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Cap'n J, is it running good?

MOST important is what happens to the LEVEL on the dipstick...does it drop
a little?

Diesel engines USE oil, some more than others. Anyone you know who has a
diesel that doesn't use oil (they usually brag about it), either has water
intrusion, which is easy to spot, or fuel intrusion past the rings, which
isn't until it's bad.

Oil analysis is used to EXTEND oil change intervals on engines that use a
LOT of oil, big diesels using gallons and gallons. As yours is not
anywhere near this category and an oil change is so cheap, screw all that
and just change the oil every hundred hours OR SIX MONTHS, anyway. It
doesn't break down in a hundred hours or 6 months sitting there full of
fuel and acids and water so just changing it is fine....UNLESS THE LEVEL
RISES!..which is BAD...

They crank fine at 25,000 hours if you do this...(c;

Actually, I haven't had to add a drop since the oil change. I feel the oil
every time I check it, doesn't feel gritty.

I was thinking, perhaps wrongly, that an analysis would tell me if there was
something going on that wouldn't be obvious by a drop in oil or in a burnt
aroma, or stuff in it.

I doubt I've run it 100 hours in 18 months... probably under 50.

Maybe I'm trying to fix something that isn't broke. :-}


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"Capt. JG" wrote in
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Actually, I haven't had to add a drop since the oil change. I feel the
oil every time I check it, doesn't feel gritty.


Because the fuel is a thin oil, you won't feel much difference until it's
really contaminated with fuel. The lamp black color of it two minutes
after you crank on new oil is the carbon blowby all diesels at these
tremendous pressures have. It's so finely ground up, it doesn't feel
gritty, either. Gritty would be like bearing grindings and very rare,
indeed.

I was thinking, perhaps wrongly, that an analysis would tell me if
there was something going on that wouldn't be obvious by a drop in oil
or in a burnt aroma, or stuff in it.

It will if something's grinding apart or coolant is leaking in, another
item that causes the level to rise...head gaskets/cracked block..yecch,
ugly thoughts on Sunday morning.


I doubt I've run it 100 hours in 18 months... probably under 50.

Ok, so what you need to do is to start changing oil at least every 4-6
months. A chemical change takes place between oil and the contaminants
the engine introduces into it when running. These conttaminants break
the oil down, hence the month limit on used oil life. Get the oil change
gadget that makes it easiest on you and do it yourself. Don't reuse the
filter. It'll run for decades, or until the rubber parts fail. Change
the water pump impeller yearly. That's a pain but doable.


Maybe I'm trying to fix something that isn't broke. :-}

Everybody does that. Too much free worrying time influenced by
libations...(c

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
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Actually, I haven't had to add a drop since the oil change. I feel the
oil every time I check it, doesn't feel gritty.


Because the fuel is a thin oil, you won't feel much difference until it's
really contaminated with fuel. The lamp black color of it two minutes
after you crank on new oil is the carbon blowby all diesels at these
tremendous pressures have. It's so finely ground up, it doesn't feel
gritty, either. Gritty would be like bearing grindings and very rare,
indeed.

I was thinking, perhaps wrongly, that an analysis would tell me if
there was something going on that wouldn't be obvious by a drop in oil
or in a burnt aroma, or stuff in it.

It will if something's grinding apart or coolant is leaking in, another
item that causes the level to rise...head gaskets/cracked block..yecch,
ugly thoughts on Sunday morning.

Very. Thanks! LOL


I doubt I've run it 100 hours in 18 months... probably under 50.

Ok, so what you need to do is to start changing oil at least every 4-6
months. A chemical change takes place between oil and the contaminants
the engine introduces into it when running. These conttaminants break
the oil down, hence the month limit on used oil life. Get the oil change
gadget that makes it easiest on you and do it yourself. Don't reuse the
filter. It'll run for decades, or until the rubber parts fail. Change
the water pump impeller yearly. That's a pain but doable.

I didn't mean to imply that it just sits... I do start it and run it for
10-15 minutes, either because I haven't run it in a while or because I'm
going out or coming in. Does that make a difference? I don't mind changing
it myself. The hardest part of doing anything with the engine is actually
checking the oil. The dipstick is in on the starboard side about mid-engine,
but the engine is offset in the bay, with the forward part inset to
starboard. So, basically, I have to reach around it to get at the stick,
which I can't see directly.


Maybe I'm trying to fix something that isn't broke. :-}

Everybody does that. Too much free worrying time influenced by
libations...(c

Heh..

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On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:24:58 +0000, Larry wrote:

Ok, so what you need to do is to start changing oil at least every 4-6
months.

Once a year is plenty on a small engine that doesn't get run very
much.

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:43:04 +0000, Larry wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in
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You are one sick puppy. Do you get a thrill out of stalking people?
You clearly know nothing about boats or engines, but you know a heck
of a lot about stalking. **** off.



Cap'n J, is it running good?

MOST important is what happens to the LEVEL on the dipstick...does it drop
a little?

Diesel engines USE oil, some more than others. Anyone you know who has a
diesel that doesn't use oil (they usually brag about it), either has water
intrusion, which is easy to spot, or fuel intrusion past the rings, which
isn't until it's bad.

Oil analysis is used to EXTEND oil change intervals on engines that use a
LOT of oil, big diesels using gallons and gallons. As yours is not
anywhere near this category and an oil change is so cheap, screw all that
and just change the oil every hundred hours OR SIX MONTHS, anyway. It
doesn't break down in a hundred hours or 6 months sitting there full of
fuel and acids and water so just changing it is fine....UNLESS THE LEVEL
RISES!..which is BAD...

They crank fine at 25,000 hours if you do this...(c;

It can also be used to find out what is wearing out. If you perform
periodic oil analysis and keep a record you can see the bearings and
rings wearing out. Whether this is of interest on a pleasure boat is
debatable (it is on airplanes) so the advise to change the oil and
filters every X hours probably results in lower costs and very
possibly longer engine life.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)

Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
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Whether this is of interest on a pleasure boat is
debatable (it is on airplanes) so the advise to change the oil and
filters every X hours probably results in lower costs and very
possibly longer engine life.


At 50 hours in a year, he needs time interval changes and worrying over
zinc anodes inside the engine being eaten. He'll never wear it out...

"Larry" wrote in message
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
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Whether this is of interest on a pleasure boat is
debatable (it is on airplanes) so the advise to change the oil and
filters every X hours probably results in lower costs and very
possibly longer engine life.


At 50 hours in a year, he needs time interval changes and worrying over
zinc anodes inside the engine being eaten. He'll never wear it out...



From your typing to God's ear...

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Ernie Harrod" wrote in message
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crap removed


You are one sick puppy. Do you get a thrill out of stalking people? You
clearly know nothing about boats or engines, but you know a heck of a lot
about stalking. **** off.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Take your rudeness and vulgarity elsewhere! I find it really distasteful
that you must subject everyone to your outbursts.