Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #21   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats.cruising
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,757
Default Engine oil check

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
:

I didn't mean to imply that it just sits... I do start it and run it
for 10-15 minutes, either because I haven't run it in a while or
because I'm going out or coming in. Does that make a difference? I
don't mind changing it myself. The hardest part of doing anything with
the engine is actually checking the oil. The dipstick is in on the
starboard side about mid-engine, but the engine is offset in the bay,
with the forward part inset to starboard. So, basically, I have to
reach around it to get at the stick, which I can't see directly.



One of the very important things you can do for it is to take it out and
toss caution to the wind and run the hell out of it for 10 miles. 15
minutes isn't long enough to boil the water out of the crankcase. You
need
to run it hard and hot for that, raising the oil temp above 212 to boil
off
any water that may have accumulated, even from just condensation, in the
crankcase. Exhaust water cooling gets back through the open exhaust
valves, condenses in the cold block and always ends up in the
crankcase....under the oil where the pickup tube sucks it into the oil
pump, of course. It's not a serious problem, but is so easy to avoid by
simply running the engine for further than just far enough away from the
dock to get the sails filled. Run her out on the engine, not at idle, let
her breathe at cruising speed...way up there....above 2000 RPM. She won't
explode.

If you haven't run her hard in a long time, set her on 2500 RPM and let
her
run an hour. It's really good for it.

.....and, no matter what you may have heard, it's not mortal sin!...(c;



A couple of things... the engine temp never seems to get over 200 no matter
how long I run it nor how many Rs. Hull speed rpm is about 3200 or so...
can't remember exactly, definitely over 2500. No smoke out the back, so I
know I'm not doing harm. I do this if I happen to be fighting the current at
some point.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



  #22   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats.cruising
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,757
Default Engine oil check

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in news:13uvkpu69qtll41
@corp.supernews.com:

end of the sailing season


End of the sailing season?? Huh??

Sailing season never ends....does it??

How silly.....

SAIL SOUTH!! SOUTH!!

We'll leave the dock lights on for ya....

New Years day, Charleston Harbor, RACE DAY!!

End of the sailing season....yecch.



Well, maybe I should have said end of the primary season... typically
December, and I sail only occasionally in Jan/Feb, although this year
several times.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



  #23   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats.cruising
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,492
Default Engine oil check

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:24:58 +0000, Larry wrote:

Ok, so what you need to do is to start changing oil at least every 4-6
months.


Once a year is plenty on a small engine that doesn't get run very
much.

  #24   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats.cruising
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,275
Default Engine oil check

"Capt. JG" wrote in news:13v078lr52civd6
@corp.supernews.com:

I do this if I happen to be fighting the current at
some point.



I usually do it in panic as the tide we underestimated it dragging us
headlong into the main dock past the finger pier. It doesn't "do" much to
stop the monster caught in the current, but the noise and black smoke of a
Perkins 4-108 pouring out the back makes the assembled amateur dockhands
grab her lines on the cleats faster.....without all the screaming and
yelling at each other...(c;

You've all seen it or done it.....Come on.....no denials!

.......damned LIARS.....(c;

The whole Ashley River basin up 17 miles races right past our little finger
pier every 6 hours....one way or another, of course. Dredging is
unnecessary. Even the coffee grounds are no match.

......we call it "Self Flushing"....

The coolant temperature isn't what's important. The CRANKCASE temperature
is much higher, the oil cooling the bottom of the pistons splashing around
in there. It's easily over 212F in the crankcase.....

  #25   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats.cruising
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,275
Default Engine oil check

"Capt. JG" wrote in news:13v07b23s0ice34
@corp.supernews.com:

Well, maybe I should have said end of the primary season... typically
December, and I sail only occasionally in Jan/Feb, although this year
several times.



Global Warming is only a downside if you're depending on government grant
money to study it, ad nauseum.



  #26   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats.cruising
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,275
Default Engine oil check

Wayne.B wrote in
:

Once a year is plenty on a small engine that doesn't get run very
much.




http://www.searchforparts.com/import...9000_miles.php
Unless you're an Amsoil dealer, whos company only has REBOTTLING plants,
not any kind of oil refinery or synthetic oil manufacturing complex.....

http://www.yanmarmarine.com/
click Questions and Answers
on the left panel is maintenance videos.

Ignoring that he didn't TIGHTEN the "radiator cap" when he told you to, I
stand corrected by Yanmar. Oil change interval is 250 hours or once a
year, now.

I also think the video violates the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Protection Act
(15USC50 section 2300) in that he specifically tells you to use ONLY Yanmar
BRANDED impeller, oil filters, air cleaner in this video. According to
FEDERAL LAW, Magnusson-Moss REQUIRES Yanmar to provide ANY part they tell
you MUST be a Yanmar Branded part.....FREE for the entire life of the
engine, not just to the end of the warranty. He's more vague about fluids,
telling you to use Yanmar or "approved" oils, transmission fluid,
coolant....

So, I guess, once a year is now OK.....at least for those selling engines.

  #27   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats.cruising
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,757
Default Engine oil check

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in news:13v078lr52civd6
@corp.supernews.com:

I do this if I happen to be fighting the current at
some point.



I usually do it in panic as the tide we underestimated it dragging us
headlong into the main dock past the finger pier. It doesn't "do" much to
stop the monster caught in the current, but the noise and black smoke of a
Perkins 4-108 pouring out the back makes the assembled amateur dockhands
grab her lines on the cleats faster.....without all the screaming and
yelling at each other...(c;

You've all seen it or done it.....Come on.....no denials!

......damned LIARS.....(c;

The whole Ashley River basin up 17 miles races right past our little
finger
pier every 6 hours....one way or another, of course. Dredging is
unnecessary. Even the coffee grounds are no match.

.....we call it "Self Flushing"....

The coolant temperature isn't what's important. The CRANKCASE temperature
is much higher, the oil cooling the bottom of the pistons splashing around
in there. It's easily over 212F in the crankcase.....



Do all Perkins 4-108s smoke like that? I almost bought a boat that did that,
but it smoked at all rpms, so I passed.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



  #28   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats.cruising
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,757
Default Engine oil check

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in news:13v07b23s0ice34
@corp.supernews.com:

Well, maybe I should have said end of the primary season... typically
December, and I sail only occasionally in Jan/Feb, although this year
several times.



Global Warming is only a downside if you're depending on government grant
money to study it, ad nauseum.



I'm in favor of global warming wrt to sailing, but that's it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



  #29   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats.cruising
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 301
Default Engine oil check

Jill M wrote:
TMI


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

Besides, I have plenty of absorbant pads. The ex gives them away for
free.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


At the risk of being shot down, I would say that it's cheaper to change the
oil than send it away for testing. With my BMW only doing 3500 miles per
year due to UK gas prices, I simply change the oil every 6 months regardless
of manufacturer's recommendations. Doesn't the same apply to boats?


Dennis.


  #30   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats.cruising
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Mar 2008
Posts: 272
Default Engine oil check

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:06:08 GMT, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:

Jill M wrote:
TMI


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

Besides, I have plenty of absorbant pads. The ex gives them away for
free.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


At the risk of being shot down, I would say that it's cheaper to change the
oil than send it away for testing. With my BMW only doing 3500 miles per
year due to UK gas prices, I simply change the oil every 6 months regardless
of manufacturer's recommendations. Doesn't the same apply to boats?


Dennis.


Of course it does and all the rationalizing in the world doesn't
change anything. Oil is cheap and down time and repairs are expensive.
When I was working construction jobs in the jungle we changed oil
weekly on the earth moving equipment working 24/7 and monthly on
cranes and other less used equipment. Our re-supply time was about a
month and down time was far more costly then a few gallons of oil and
a couple of filters.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)
Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Single engine vs. twin engine Cal Vanize Cruising 8 November 28th 06 03:11 PM
Hey Oz1, check out DSK ASA 0 August 6th 06 05:20 PM
Can I reduce engine noise my insulating engine cover. Mr Wizzard General 7 July 27th 05 06:45 AM
Engine dies- Putters when trying to plane- engine under under heavy load Bora Cider General 4 May 18th 04 04:12 PM
Outboard Engine change out check list? [email protected] General 3 May 12th 04 12:18 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:16 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 BoatBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Boats"

 

Copyright © 2017