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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in : I didn't mean to imply that it just sits... I do start it and run it for 10-15 minutes, either because I haven't run it in a while or because I'm going out or coming in. Does that make a difference? I don't mind changing it myself. The hardest part of doing anything with the engine is actually checking the oil. The dipstick is in on the starboard side about mid-engine, but the engine is offset in the bay, with the forward part inset to starboard. So, basically, I have to reach around it to get at the stick, which I can't see directly. One of the very important things you can do for it is to take it out and toss caution to the wind and run the hell out of it for 10 miles. 15 minutes isn't long enough to boil the water out of the crankcase. You need to run it hard and hot for that, raising the oil temp above 212 to boil off any water that may have accumulated, even from just condensation, in the crankcase. Exhaust water cooling gets back through the open exhaust valves, condenses in the cold block and always ends up in the crankcase....under the oil where the pickup tube sucks it into the oil pump, of course. It's not a serious problem, but is so easy to avoid by simply running the engine for further than just far enough away from the dock to get the sails filled. Run her out on the engine, not at idle, let her breathe at cruising speed...way up there....above 2000 RPM. She won't explode. If you haven't run her hard in a long time, set her on 2500 RPM and let her run an hour. It's really good for it. .....and, no matter what you may have heard, it's not mortal sin!...(c; A couple of things... the engine temp never seems to get over 200 no matter how long I run it nor how many Rs. Hull speed rpm is about 3200 or so... can't remember exactly, definitely over 2500. No smoke out the back, so I know I'm not doing harm. I do this if I happen to be fighting the current at some point. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in news:13uvkpu69qtll41 @corp.supernews.com: end of the sailing season End of the sailing season?? Huh?? Sailing season never ends....does it?? How silly..... SAIL SOUTH!! SOUTH!! We'll leave the dock lights on for ya.... New Years day, Charleston Harbor, RACE DAY!! End of the sailing season....yecch. Well, maybe I should have said end of the primary season... typically December, and I sail only occasionally in Jan/Feb, although this year several times. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:24:58 +0000, Larry wrote:
Ok, so what you need to do is to start changing oil at least every 4-6 months. Once a year is plenty on a small engine that doesn't get run very much. |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:13v078lr52civd6
@corp.supernews.com: I do this if I happen to be fighting the current at some point. I usually do it in panic as the tide we underestimated it dragging us headlong into the main dock past the finger pier. It doesn't "do" much to stop the monster caught in the current, but the noise and black smoke of a Perkins 4-108 pouring out the back makes the assembled amateur dockhands grab her lines on the cleats faster.....without all the screaming and yelling at each other...(c; You've all seen it or done it.....Come on.....no denials! .......damned LIARS.....(c; The whole Ashley River basin up 17 miles races right past our little finger pier every 6 hours....one way or another, of course. Dredging is unnecessary. Even the coffee grounds are no match. ......we call it "Self Flushing".... The coolant temperature isn't what's important. The CRANKCASE temperature is much higher, the oil cooling the bottom of the pistons splashing around in there. It's easily over 212F in the crankcase..... |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:13v07b23s0ice34
@corp.supernews.com: Well, maybe I should have said end of the primary season... typically December, and I sail only occasionally in Jan/Feb, although this year several times. Global Warming is only a downside if you're depending on government grant money to study it, ad nauseum. |
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Wayne.B wrote in
: Once a year is plenty on a small engine that doesn't get run very much. http://www.searchforparts.com/import...9000_miles.php Unless you're an Amsoil dealer, whos company only has REBOTTLING plants, not any kind of oil refinery or synthetic oil manufacturing complex..... http://www.yanmarmarine.com/ click Questions and Answers on the left panel is maintenance videos. Ignoring that he didn't TIGHTEN the "radiator cap" when he told you to, I stand corrected by Yanmar. Oil change interval is 250 hours or once a year, now. I also think the video violates the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Protection Act (15USC50 section 2300) in that he specifically tells you to use ONLY Yanmar BRANDED impeller, oil filters, air cleaner in this video. According to FEDERAL LAW, Magnusson-Moss REQUIRES Yanmar to provide ANY part they tell you MUST be a Yanmar Branded part.....FREE for the entire life of the engine, not just to the end of the warranty. He's more vague about fluids, telling you to use Yanmar or "approved" oils, transmission fluid, coolant.... So, I guess, once a year is now OK.....at least for those selling engines. |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in news:13v078lr52civd6 @corp.supernews.com: I do this if I happen to be fighting the current at some point. I usually do it in panic as the tide we underestimated it dragging us headlong into the main dock past the finger pier. It doesn't "do" much to stop the monster caught in the current, but the noise and black smoke of a Perkins 4-108 pouring out the back makes the assembled amateur dockhands grab her lines on the cleats faster.....without all the screaming and yelling at each other...(c; You've all seen it or done it.....Come on.....no denials! ......damned LIARS.....(c; The whole Ashley River basin up 17 miles races right past our little finger pier every 6 hours....one way or another, of course. Dredging is unnecessary. Even the coffee grounds are no match. .....we call it "Self Flushing".... The coolant temperature isn't what's important. The CRANKCASE temperature is much higher, the oil cooling the bottom of the pistons splashing around in there. It's easily over 212F in the crankcase..... Do all Perkins 4-108s smoke like that? I almost bought a boat that did that, but it smoked at all rpms, so I passed. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in news:13v07b23s0ice34 @corp.supernews.com: Well, maybe I should have said end of the primary season... typically December, and I sail only occasionally in Jan/Feb, although this year several times. Global Warming is only a downside if you're depending on government grant money to study it, ad nauseum. I'm in favor of global warming wrt to sailing, but that's it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Jill M wrote:
TMI "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Besides, I have plenty of absorbant pads. The ex gives them away for free. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com At the risk of being shot down, I would say that it's cheaper to change the oil than send it away for testing. With my BMW only doing 3500 miles per year due to UK gas prices, I simply change the oil every 6 months regardless of manufacturer's recommendations. Doesn't the same apply to boats? Dennis. |
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:06:08 GMT, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote: Jill M wrote: TMI "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Besides, I have plenty of absorbant pads. The ex gives them away for free. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com At the risk of being shot down, I would say that it's cheaper to change the oil than send it away for testing. With my BMW only doing 3500 miles per year due to UK gas prices, I simply change the oil every 6 months regardless of manufacturer's recommendations. Doesn't the same apply to boats? Dennis. Of course it does and all the rationalizing in the world doesn't change anything. Oil is cheap and down time and repairs are expensive. When I was working construction jobs in the jungle we changed oil weekly on the earth moving equipment working 24/7 and monthly on cranes and other less used equipment. Our re-supply time was about a month and down time was far more costly then a few gallons of oil and a couple of filters. Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct email address for reply) |
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