Was wondering what people think of the comparitive worth of these two
organizations' certification systems...

I used to be a big ASA fan, but I'm tending more toward USS these days.

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On 2008-03-10 21:37:27 -0400, "Capt. JG" said:

Was wondering what people think of the comparitive worth of these two
organizations' certification systems...

I used to be a big ASA fan, but I'm tending more toward USS these days.

As a person not knowingly rated by either, I find both useless.

If I come across two possible crew-members, I'll grab the one that has
dinghy-racing experience over "not" every time.

Laser racers are at the top of my list, but there are a bunch of
one-design boats that require similar continuous attention.

"losers" in that set of classes are usually far better sailors than
those who can pay the bucks for "professional" certification.

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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008031102062816807-jerelull@maccom...
On 2008-03-10 21:37:27 -0400, "Capt. JG" said:

Was wondering what people think of the comparitive worth of these two
organizations' certification systems...

I used to be a big ASA fan, but I'm tending more toward USS these days.

As a person not knowingly rated by either, I find both useless.

If I come across two possible crew-members, I'll grab the one that has
dinghy-racing experience over "not" every time.

Laser racers are at the top of my list, but there are a bunch of
one-design boats that require similar continuous attention.

"losers" in that set of classes are usually far better sailors than those
who can pay the bucks for "professional" certification.

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Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Jere... I'm not talking about the student certifications... BKS, BC, BBC,
etc. I'm talking about the Instructor certifications... most schools require
one or the other.


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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:39:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008031102062816807-jerelull@maccom...
On 2008-03-10 21:37:27 -0400, "Capt. JG" said:

Was wondering what people think of the comparitive worth of these two
organizations' certification systems...

I used to be a big ASA fan, but I'm tending more toward USS these days.

As a person not knowingly rated by either, I find both useless.

If I come across two possible crew-members, I'll grab the one that has
dinghy-racing experience over "not" every time.

Laser racers are at the top of my list, but there are a bunch of
one-design boats that require similar continuous attention.

"losers" in that set of classes are usually far better sailors than
those
who can pay the bucks for "professional" certification.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Jere... I'm not talking about the student certifications... BKS, BC, BBC,
etc. I'm talking about the Instructor certifications... most schools
require
one or the other.

I seem to remember your "pal" Bart not having a very high opinion of
USSailing, even though the place he teaches advertises that their
instructors are all certified by that organization.




I don't know where he teaches, and yes, he's a friend of mine. I know he has
some level of USS certification, but I don't know what level. Perhaps you
should ask him.


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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:14:06 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:39:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008031102062816807-jerelull@maccom...
On 2008-03-10 21:37:27 -0400, "Capt. JG" said:

Was wondering what people think of the comparitive worth of these two
organizations' certification systems...

I used to be a big ASA fan, but I'm tending more toward USS these
days.

As a person not knowingly rated by either, I find both useless.

If I come across two possible crew-members, I'll grab the one that has
dinghy-racing experience over "not" every time.

Laser racers are at the top of my list, but there are a bunch of
one-design boats that require similar continuous attention.

"losers" in that set of classes are usually far better sailors than
those
who can pay the bucks for "professional" certification.

--
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Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Jere... I'm not talking about the student certifications... BKS, BC,
BBC,
etc. I'm talking about the Instructor certifications... most schools
require
one or the other.

I seem to remember your "pal" Bart not having a very high opinion of
USSailing, even though the place he teaches advertises that their
instructors are all certified by that organization.




I don't know where he teaches, and yes, he's a friend of mine. I know he
has
some level of USS certification, but I don't know what level. Perhaps you
should ask him.

??? I thought you started this thread because you wanted opinions on
USSailing vs ASA. I suggested that you ask Bart, since I remember him
having a very strong opinion on the subject, and personal experience.

Jeez, Jon, take a pill already.




What's your problem? You're the one who seems to be upset by Bart and
perhaps that he's a friend. I'm asking for others' informed opinions. If you
have no informed opinion about the differences, then kindly take your own
pill.


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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:19:27 -0700, "Capt. JG"
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:14:06 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:39:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008031102062816807-jerelull@maccom...
On 2008-03-10 21:37:27 -0400, "Capt. JG"
said:

Was wondering what people think of the comparitive worth of these
two
organizations' certification systems...

I used to be a big ASA fan, but I'm tending more toward USS these
days.

As a person not knowingly rated by either, I find both useless.

If I come across two possible crew-members, I'll grab the one that
has
dinghy-racing experience over "not" every time.

Laser racers are at the top of my list, but there are a bunch of
one-design boats that require similar continuous attention.

"losers" in that set of classes are usually far better sailors than
those
who can pay the bucks for "professional" certification.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Jere... I'm not talking about the student certifications... BKS, BC,
BBC,
etc. I'm talking about the Instructor certifications... most schools
require
one or the other.

I seem to remember your "pal" Bart not having a very high opinion of
USSailing, even though the place he teaches advertises that their
instructors are all certified by that organization.




I don't know where he teaches, and yes, he's a friend of mine. I know he
has
some level of USS certification, but I don't know what level. Perhaps
you
should ask him.

??? I thought you started this thread because you wanted opinions on
USSailing vs ASA. I suggested that you ask Bart, since I remember him
having a very strong opinion on the subject, and personal experience.

Jeez, Jon, take a pill already.




What's your problem? You're the one who seems to be upset by Bart and
perhaps that he's a friend. I'm asking for others' informed opinions. If
you
have no informed opinion about the differences, then kindly take your own
pill.

???

I was only trying to help.

You're welcome




Really? How's that? Did you think I forgot that I know Bart?

In that case, thanks.


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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:19:27 -0700, "Capt. JG"
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:14:06 -0700, "Capt. JG"
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:39:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"

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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2008031102062816807-jerelull@maccom...
On 2008-03-10 21:37:27 -0400, "Capt. JG"
said:

Was wondering what people think of the comparitive worth of these
two
organizations' certification systems...

I used to be a big ASA fan, but I'm tending more toward USS these
days.

As a person not knowingly rated by either, I find both useless.

If I come across two possible crew-members, I'll grab the one that
has
dinghy-racing experience over "not" every time.

Laser racers are at the top of my list, but there are a bunch of
one-design boats that require similar continuous attention.

"losers" in that set of classes are usually far better sailors
than
those
who can pay the bucks for "professional" certification.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Jere... I'm not talking about the student certifications... BKS, BC,
BBC,
etc. I'm talking about the Instructor certifications... most schools
require
one or the other.

I seem to remember your "pal" Bart not having a very high opinion of
USSailing, even though the place he teaches advertises that their
instructors are all certified by that organization.




I don't know where he teaches, and yes, he's a friend of mine. I know
he
has
some level of USS certification, but I don't know what level. Perhaps
you
should ask him.

??? I thought you started this thread because you wanted opinions on
USSailing vs ASA. I suggested that you ask Bart, since I remember him
having a very strong opinion on the subject, and personal experience.

Jeez, Jon, take a pill already.




What's your problem? You're the one who seems to be upset by Bart and
perhaps that he's a friend. I'm asking for others' informed opinions. If
you
have no informed opinion about the differences, then kindly take your
own
pill.

???

I was only trying to help.

You're welcome




Really? How's that? Did you think I forgot that I know Bart?

In that case, thanks.

I don't know how well you know Bart, or if you happened to know about his
rather
strong opinions of USSailing, so I thought you might appreciate the tip.
Honest.

I thought you and I had more or less agreed to a ceasefire about a year
ago in a
series of private emails. Is that ceasfire still in effect, or are you
trying to
break it?




What are you talking about? You're the one who posted about Bart and me
taking a pill. Or, did I get that wrong?

In any case, perhaps Bart should speak for himself. I'm soliciting opinions
about the instructor certs for the two. If you have one, I'd love to hear
it.

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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:49:56 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:
What are you talking about? You're the one who posted about Bart and me
taking a pill. Or, did I get that wrong?

In any case, perhaps Bart should speak for himself. I'm soliciting
opinions
about the instructor certs for the two. If you have one, I'd love to hear
it.

Are you not well? Your responses are a bit weird to put it mildly. I told
you to
take a pill after your unseemly outburst in response to my offer of help.
So,
yes, you got it quite wrong. I also didn't say anything about Bart taking
a
pill. I really didn't say anything about him at all except to remind you
that he
had a strong opinion of USSailing that you migt want to ask him about. I
only
suggested that he might have a worthwhile opinion for you. I suggested
that you
ask Bart so that he CAN speak for himself.

I can stop being nice anytime you like. Your move.




So, are you saying that you do or don't have an opinion about the two
programs?

I don't think it's relevant nor is it helpful to continually try and provoke
me. No move is required on my part.


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[snipped a bunch of stuff post several times already]

What's your problem? You're the one who seems to be upset by Bart and
perhaps that he's a friend. I'm asking for others' informed opinions. If you
have no informed opinion about the differences, then kindly take your own
pill.

???

I was only trying to help.

You're welcome



Jeeze, would one of you two remember to snip, some folks still use dial up!

Cheers
Marty

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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:17:09 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:49:56 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:
What are you talking about? You're the one who posted about Bart and me
taking a pill. Or, did I get that wrong?

In any case, perhaps Bart should speak for himself. I'm soliciting
opinions
about the instructor certs for the two. If you have one, I'd love to
hear
it.

Are you not well? Your responses are a bit weird to put it mildly. I
told
you to
take a pill after your unseemly outburst in response to my offer of
help.
So,
yes, you got it quite wrong. I also didn't say anything about Bart
taking
a
pill. I really didn't say anything about him at all except to remind you
that he
had a strong opinion of USSailing that you migt want to ask him about. I
only
suggested that he might have a worthwhile opinion for you. I suggested
that you
ask Bart so that he CAN speak for himself.

I can stop being nice anytime you like. Your move.




So, are you saying that you do or don't have an opinion about the two
programs?

I don't think it's relevant nor is it helpful to continually try and
provoke
me. No move is required on my part.

Consider our gentlemen's agreement null and void, you drug addled faggot.




Ok Mike.... class of '72 was it?


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