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Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Sure - would you like my spare castings to print banknotes as well whilst I
am about it?? What you are suggesting is fraud and theft and to a person who has done the classroom theory, done the miles, gained the experience done the tests paid the money it is offensive beyond belief. I would like to think that your suggestion 2) was made as an attempt at humour????? "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi, Whenever I have tried to hire a boat in Spain or Greece with a motor larger than 25hp, I have always been asked to provide a licence. Being from the UK I was obviously surprised by this. I have done a little research and discovered that I will be required to take a 2 day course and pay up to £500 to obtain an "International Certificate of Competence (ICC)" which doesn't even sound like a "full licence" to me. This seems like serious overkill as I only want to hire a little 50 or 60hp motot boat to potter around on for the odd afternoon. Also, ISTM that the smaller powered boat is the more dangerous of the two. Anyway, my question is this... 1.) Is there a quick and easy way to obtain a "licence" that won't cost more than the boat hire? 2.) If not, does anyone know where I might obtain a template or scan of an actual licence that I could use to overlay my own details and print off. I'm sure these Greeks won't check too closely so that would solve my problem. Thank you, Steve. Ps. Pull the plug to reply. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... Hi, Whenever I have tried to hire a boat in Spain or Greece with a motor larger than 25hp, I have always been asked to provide a licence. Being from the UK I was obviously surprised by this. You sound like a perfect example of why licences are sensibly required by these countries. Every year in the Med people are killed by holidaymakers who hire speedboats with either false qualifications, or hire them from dodgy cowboys who don't check. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... Hi, Whenever I have tried to hire a boat in Spain or Greece with a motor larger than 25hp, I have always been asked to provide a licence. Being from the UK I was obviously surprised by this. You sound like a perfect example of why licences are sensibly required by these countries. Every year in the Med people are killed by holidaymakers who hire speedboats with either false qualifications, or hire them from dodgy cowboys who don't check. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Back in 1980, in Italy, I had to take a course and test, paid in the
neighbourhood of $25 US for it, and obtained a certificate that sounds much like what you are talking about. I allowed me to hire small power and sailboats in Sardegna, Italy and Sicily. Even given the current state of affairs and the much broader scope of the certificate in question, 500 pounds seems a bit steep, but you can't fight city hall. Maybe you can find a cheaper source for the same certificate? As for asking for help in forging documents, that strikes me as an exceptionally stupid thing to be doing given the shape of the world. You're entirely on your own. Enjoy your cell. -- Karin Conover-Lewis Fair and Balanced since 1959 klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi, Whenever I have tried to hire a boat in Spain or Greece with a motor larger than 25hp, I have always been asked to provide a licence. Being from the UK I was obviously surprised by this. I have done a little research and discovered that I will be required to take a 2 day course and pay up to £500 to obtain an "International Certificate of Competence (ICC)" which doesn't even sound like a "full licence" to me. This seems like serious overkill as I only want to hire a little 50 or 60hp motot boat to potter around on for the odd afternoon. Also, ISTM that the smaller powered boat is the more dangerous of the two. Anyway, my question is this... 1.) Is there a quick and easy way to obtain a "licence" that won't cost more than the boat hire? 2.) If not, does anyone know where I might obtain a template or scan of an actual licence that I could use to overlay my own details and print off. I'm sure these Greeks won't check too closely so that would solve my problem. Thank you, Steve. Ps. Pull the plug to reply. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Back in 1980, in Italy, I had to take a course and test, paid in the
neighbourhood of $25 US for it, and obtained a certificate that sounds much like what you are talking about. I allowed me to hire small power and sailboats in Sardegna, Italy and Sicily. Even given the current state of affairs and the much broader scope of the certificate in question, 500 pounds seems a bit steep, but you can't fight city hall. Maybe you can find a cheaper source for the same certificate? As for asking for help in forging documents, that strikes me as an exceptionally stupid thing to be doing given the shape of the world. You're entirely on your own. Enjoy your cell. -- Karin Conover-Lewis Fair and Balanced since 1959 klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi, Whenever I have tried to hire a boat in Spain or Greece with a motor larger than 25hp, I have always been asked to provide a licence. Being from the UK I was obviously surprised by this. I have done a little research and discovered that I will be required to take a 2 day course and pay up to £500 to obtain an "International Certificate of Competence (ICC)" which doesn't even sound like a "full licence" to me. This seems like serious overkill as I only want to hire a little 50 or 60hp motot boat to potter around on for the odd afternoon. Also, ISTM that the smaller powered boat is the more dangerous of the two. Anyway, my question is this... 1.) Is there a quick and easy way to obtain a "licence" that won't cost more than the boat hire? 2.) If not, does anyone know where I might obtain a template or scan of an actual licence that I could use to overlay my own details and print off. I'm sure these Greeks won't check too closely so that would solve my problem. Thank you, Steve. Ps. Pull the plug to reply. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... It's only water. That attitude is further confirmation that you shouldn't be allowed on it... |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... It's only water. That attitude is further confirmation that you shouldn't be allowed on it... |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Unfortunately the RNLI aren't in Greece to save people who know better than
to actually do a formal course. If you're qualified in the RYA with powerboat certificates, the exam will be easy and cheap. "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi, Whenever I have tried to hire a boat in Spain or Greece with a motor larger than 25hp, I have always been asked to provide a licence. Being from the UK I was obviously surprised by this. I have done a little research and discovered that I will be required to take a 2 day course and pay up to £500 to obtain an "International Certificate of Competence (ICC)" which doesn't even sound like a "full licence" to me. This seems like serious overkill as I only want to hire a little 50 or 60hp motot boat to potter around on for the odd afternoon. Also, ISTM that the smaller powered boat is the more dangerous of the two. Anyway, my question is this... 1.) Is there a quick and easy way to obtain a "licence" that won't cost more than the boat hire? 2.) If not, does anyone know where I might obtain a template or scan of an actual licence that I could use to overlay my own details and print off. I'm sure these Greeks won't check too closely so that would solve my problem. Thank you, Steve. Ps. Pull the plug to reply. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Unfortunately the RNLI aren't in Greece to save people who know better than
to actually do a formal course. If you're qualified in the RYA with powerboat certificates, the exam will be easy and cheap. "Steve" wrote in message ... Hi, Whenever I have tried to hire a boat in Spain or Greece with a motor larger than 25hp, I have always been asked to provide a licence. Being from the UK I was obviously surprised by this. I have done a little research and discovered that I will be required to take a 2 day course and pay up to £500 to obtain an "International Certificate of Competence (ICC)" which doesn't even sound like a "full licence" to me. This seems like serious overkill as I only want to hire a little 50 or 60hp motot boat to potter around on for the odd afternoon. Also, ISTM that the smaller powered boat is the more dangerous of the two. Anyway, my question is this... 1.) Is there a quick and easy way to obtain a "licence" that won't cost more than the boat hire? 2.) If not, does anyone know where I might obtain a template or scan of an actual licence that I could use to overlay my own details and print off. I'm sure these Greeks won't check too closely so that would solve my problem. Thank you, Steve. Ps. Pull the plug to reply. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:44:18 +0000, Steve wrote:
/// I could buy or hire a 40' cruiser in England without a licence, why do I need one in Spain. Is it more dangerous or difficult over there? The details of national licensing requirements are in the final analysis arbitrary. A city speed limit in the U.K of 30 MPH might be mirrored by a city limit of 25MPH in [some parts of ]the US. But there *is* an international driving permit, and I suspect that's what you have in mind? Brian W |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:44:18 +0000, Steve wrote:
/// I could buy or hire a 40' cruiser in England without a licence, why do I need one in Spain. Is it more dangerous or difficult over there? The details of national licensing requirements are in the final analysis arbitrary. A city speed limit in the U.K of 30 MPH might be mirrored by a city limit of 25MPH in [some parts of ]the US. But there *is* an international driving permit, and I suspect that's what you have in mind? Brian W |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:48:09 +0000, Steve wrote:
/// I've yet to meet anyone who's been pulled over by cops while on a boat. Here I am. I was stopped for pulling a water-skier with an inadequate rear-view mirror. (The need does not arise when carrying an observer) Brian W |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:48:09 +0000, Steve wrote:
/// I've yet to meet anyone who's been pulled over by cops while on a boat. Here I am. I was stopped for pulling a water-skier with an inadequate rear-view mirror. (The need does not arise when carrying an observer) Brian W |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Yes Steve,
Screw their little grab for money and power by way of making you pay up to £500 to obtain an "International Certificate of Competence (ICC)" . Start with this link and look around the web, make up a Beauty and insert a proper series of characters (numbers/letters) for the official number... http://dmoz.org/Computers/Hacking/Fake_Identification/ |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Yes Steve,
Screw their little grab for money and power by way of making you pay up to £500 to obtain an "International Certificate of Competence (ICC)" . Start with this link and look around the web, make up a Beauty and insert a proper series of characters (numbers/letters) for the official number... http://dmoz.org/Computers/Hacking/Fake_Identification/ |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Clearly you have very little time on the water.
-- Karin Conover-Lewis Fair and Balanced since 1959 klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net "Steve" wrote in message ... I've yet to meet anyone who's been pulled over by cops while on a boat. lol |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Clearly you have very little time on the water.
-- Karin Conover-Lewis Fair and Balanced since 1959 klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net "Steve" wrote in message ... I've yet to meet anyone who's been pulled over by cops while on a boat. lol |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... "Ric" , wrote: I have explained myself, you have not. You clearly have a flippant and irresponsible attitude to safety and other water users. Your comment is as inane as arguing "why should I have a driving licence, it is only concrete". If you can afford to go on holiday to Spain and Greece, you can afford to go on a course and learn how to drive a motorboat. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... "Ric" , wrote: I have explained myself, you have not. You clearly have a flippant and irresponsible attitude to safety and other water users. Your comment is as inane as arguing "why should I have a driving licence, it is only concrete". If you can afford to go on holiday to Spain and Greece, you can afford to go on a course and learn how to drive a motorboat. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... I've yet to meet anyone who's been pulled over by cops while on a boat. lol Yet again, you are revealing that you have virtually no experience in driving motorboats. If you did, you would know that motorboats regularaly get pulled over by the authorities - especially in Spain. The mere fact that you are asking this question on a sailing group suggests that you have very little experience with boats. If you did, you would know better than to ask on a sailing group as you would know that most sailors have a dim view of motorboaters, particularly obviously irresponsible ones like you. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... I've yet to meet anyone who's been pulled over by cops while on a boat. lol Yet again, you are revealing that you have virtually no experience in driving motorboats. If you did, you would know that motorboats regularaly get pulled over by the authorities - especially in Spain. The mere fact that you are asking this question on a sailing group suggests that you have very little experience with boats. If you did, you would know better than to ask on a sailing group as you would know that most sailors have a dim view of motorboaters, particularly obviously irresponsible ones like you. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Steve wrote in message
... "Ric" , wrote: "Steve" wrote in message You sound like a perfect example of why licences are sensibly required by these countries. Every year in the Med people are killed by holidaymakers who hire speedboats with either false qualifications, or hire them from dodgy cowboys who don't check. It's only water. Water, with people swimming in it Other people driving around on it All of whom could be damaged by your activities, even though you may know all your right of way rules and be an incredibly responsible driver But they won't be covered by your boat's insurance, in most countries, if you don't have a valid certificate of competence Which means you'll be liable (as well as the boat hirer) and (in many countries, such as Greece) you'll be detained until you put a deposit into court big enough to cover any possible claims. But perhaps you're rich enough (and have enough time) to cover that risk yourself? These are legal reasons and financial incentives, introduced for the practical reason that the death and injury rates in Mediterranean Greece and Spain involving higher speed vessels (over 15 kts or so) are seen as excessive and a threat to tourism. How effective these systems are at reducing accident rates is not yet clear, but at least they ensure that those with (valid) certificates are aware of the risk of collision and the theory of how to avoid it. -- JimB Yacht Rapaz, sadly for sale: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jim.bae...cification.htm jim(dot)baerselman(at)ntlworld(dot)com |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Steve wrote in message
... "Ric" , wrote: "Steve" wrote in message You sound like a perfect example of why licences are sensibly required by these countries. Every year in the Med people are killed by holidaymakers who hire speedboats with either false qualifications, or hire them from dodgy cowboys who don't check. It's only water. Water, with people swimming in it Other people driving around on it All of whom could be damaged by your activities, even though you may know all your right of way rules and be an incredibly responsible driver But they won't be covered by your boat's insurance, in most countries, if you don't have a valid certificate of competence Which means you'll be liable (as well as the boat hirer) and (in many countries, such as Greece) you'll be detained until you put a deposit into court big enough to cover any possible claims. But perhaps you're rich enough (and have enough time) to cover that risk yourself? These are legal reasons and financial incentives, introduced for the practical reason that the death and injury rates in Mediterranean Greece and Spain involving higher speed vessels (over 15 kts or so) are seen as excessive and a threat to tourism. How effective these systems are at reducing accident rates is not yet clear, but at least they ensure that those with (valid) certificates are aware of the risk of collision and the theory of how to avoid it. -- JimB Yacht Rapaz, sadly for sale: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jim.bae...cification.htm jim(dot)baerselman(at)ntlworld(dot)com |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Steve writes:
"Ric" , wrote: "Steve" wrote in message .. . It's only water. That attitude is further confirmation that you shouldn't be allowed on it... I have explained myself, you have not. We sail. Most people who sail have experience of people in high powered motor boats who do not seem to know or abide by the IRPCS, and consequently put our lives and our boats in danger. We don't much like this sort of thing. Also, they create huge amounts of row, and often pass much too close making much too much wash, and we don't much like that either. Consequently, while I don't much like the idea of compulsory certificates of competence, I equally don't like the idea of ignorant cowboys in high-powered motor boats. If you know your colregs and basic navigation, you'll get through the exam without difficulty. If you don't, I don't much want you on the water in a powerful boat, with or without a certificate. If you don't want to get one, stick to hiring low-powered boats. HTH. HAND. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; lovely alternative to rice. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Steve writes:
"Ric" , wrote: "Steve" wrote in message .. . It's only water. That attitude is further confirmation that you shouldn't be allowed on it... I have explained myself, you have not. We sail. Most people who sail have experience of people in high powered motor boats who do not seem to know or abide by the IRPCS, and consequently put our lives and our boats in danger. We don't much like this sort of thing. Also, they create huge amounts of row, and often pass much too close making much too much wash, and we don't much like that either. Consequently, while I don't much like the idea of compulsory certificates of competence, I equally don't like the idea of ignorant cowboys in high-powered motor boats. If you know your colregs and basic navigation, you'll get through the exam without difficulty. If you don't, I don't much want you on the water in a powerful boat, with or without a certificate. If you don't want to get one, stick to hiring low-powered boats. HTH. HAND. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; lovely alternative to rice. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... There is nothing I have posted here to indicate anything of the sort. Oh no, it is not irresponsible to post "If not, does anyone know where I might obtain a template or scan of an actual licence that I could use to overlay my own details and print off. I'm sure these Greeks won't check too closely so that would solve my problem". Would you do the same for a car-driving licence? What total rubbish, there is clearly no comparison. Also, FYI I have some experience of boats already and I am sure I am quite capable of driving a 50hp glorified dingy around a bay, while following the map they provide and keeping within the correct channels marked by buoys etc., without paying 500 quid to some extortionist to prove it. If you are as capable as you claim then you will have no difficulty passing the test. You wouldn't have to go on a course at all. And again, it's good enough for the UK so why should the Med be any different? Part of the reason is that in the Med there are a lot more users of watercraft in coastal waters, and especially swimmers. Last year, just locally to me in France, two swimmers and a spearfisherman were mown down by motorboats ignorant of the rules. The year before, a sailing boat was cut in two, and both the occupants killed, by a motorboat. There are accidents every year casued by jetskiers. On every occasion, the inquest has determined that the accident was caused by irresponsible people who were unlicenced and untrained. Moreover, in one of the jetski accidents, they found that the holidaymaker had a forged certificate. He was imprisoned, but also the boss of the comany who hired him the jetski was give a two year suspended jail sentence and a huge fine, because he had not checked carefully enough the documentation. The same litany of accidents happens all over the Med every summer. The problem is, particularly acute with British holidaymakers who seem to think that they don't need licences or training to drive a motorboat. just about anything up to 200 feet long, powered by motor *or* wind and he has no licence. So, despite his many years experience he still would be unsuitable to hire a 50hp powered rowing boat? No, if he has the experience that you claim for him, then probably he would be safe. But you clearly do not have the experience - it is completely evident by your comments and assumptions here. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... There is nothing I have posted here to indicate anything of the sort. Oh no, it is not irresponsible to post "If not, does anyone know where I might obtain a template or scan of an actual licence that I could use to overlay my own details and print off. I'm sure these Greeks won't check too closely so that would solve my problem". Would you do the same for a car-driving licence? What total rubbish, there is clearly no comparison. Also, FYI I have some experience of boats already and I am sure I am quite capable of driving a 50hp glorified dingy around a bay, while following the map they provide and keeping within the correct channels marked by buoys etc., without paying 500 quid to some extortionist to prove it. If you are as capable as you claim then you will have no difficulty passing the test. You wouldn't have to go on a course at all. And again, it's good enough for the UK so why should the Med be any different? Part of the reason is that in the Med there are a lot more users of watercraft in coastal waters, and especially swimmers. Last year, just locally to me in France, two swimmers and a spearfisherman were mown down by motorboats ignorant of the rules. The year before, a sailing boat was cut in two, and both the occupants killed, by a motorboat. There are accidents every year casued by jetskiers. On every occasion, the inquest has determined that the accident was caused by irresponsible people who were unlicenced and untrained. Moreover, in one of the jetski accidents, they found that the holidaymaker had a forged certificate. He was imprisoned, but also the boss of the comany who hired him the jetski was give a two year suspended jail sentence and a huge fine, because he had not checked carefully enough the documentation. The same litany of accidents happens all over the Med every summer. The problem is, particularly acute with British holidaymakers who seem to think that they don't need licences or training to drive a motorboat. just about anything up to 200 feet long, powered by motor *or* wind and he has no licence. So, despite his many years experience he still would be unsuitable to hire a 50hp powered rowing boat? No, if he has the experience that you claim for him, then probably he would be safe. But you clearly do not have the experience - it is completely evident by your comments and assumptions here. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... "Ric" , wrote: I am aware of that, it's called snobbery. Seen it several times during Cowes week and it's pathetic. It is not snobbery. Some motorboaters are extremely considerate to sailors, and I and most other sailors have nothing whatsoever against them. But if you drive a huge noisy smelly motorboat directly by a sailing boat, causing a huge wake, you obviously will not be popular. If you are on a motorboat, you don't realise how noisy and smelly they are, but if you are sailing you do. Nothing obvious in respect of my sailing/boating/responsibility has been revealed here. What has been revealed is my utter disdain reflected in a silly system which clearly requires updating. There ought to be some sort of "permit" available to those with provable experience gained in a non-licence requiring country like the UK. I agree - I think UK should force all motorboaters to get a licence and bring them in line with the rest of Europe. Sure, if you want to drive in UK waters you can without training. But if you want to drive in Spanish and French waters, you should have the same level of training as the locals. In Albania, to get a car-driving licence, you just need to sit in the back of the car and watch the instructor give a demonstration for about an hour. Then you pay a fee, and you get your driving licence. Do you think an Albanian driving licence should be valid in UK? |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Steve" wrote in message ... "Ric" , wrote: I am aware of that, it's called snobbery. Seen it several times during Cowes week and it's pathetic. It is not snobbery. Some motorboaters are extremely considerate to sailors, and I and most other sailors have nothing whatsoever against them. But if you drive a huge noisy smelly motorboat directly by a sailing boat, causing a huge wake, you obviously will not be popular. If you are on a motorboat, you don't realise how noisy and smelly they are, but if you are sailing you do. Nothing obvious in respect of my sailing/boating/responsibility has been revealed here. What has been revealed is my utter disdain reflected in a silly system which clearly requires updating. There ought to be some sort of "permit" available to those with provable experience gained in a non-licence requiring country like the UK. I agree - I think UK should force all motorboaters to get a licence and bring them in line with the rest of Europe. Sure, if you want to drive in UK waters you can without training. But if you want to drive in Spanish and French waters, you should have the same level of training as the locals. In Albania, to get a car-driving licence, you just need to sit in the back of the car and watch the instructor give a demonstration for about an hour. Then you pay a fee, and you get your driving licence. Do you think an Albanian driving licence should be valid in UK? |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Having followed this thread ad nausea I believe we should make every effort
to help this chap get a fake licence - hopefully he will end up rotting in a Greek jail which is rather a fitting end for someone like him................ "Steve" wrote in message ... "Ric" , wrote: "Steve" wrote in message .. . I've yet to meet anyone who's been pulled over by cops while on a boat. lol Yet again, you are revealing that you have virtually no experience in driving motorboats. If you did, you would know that motorboats regularaly get pulled over by the authorities - especially in Spain. I have no experience in Spain, some in Greece off a variety of Islands but none off the mainland. Never been pulled yet. Perhaps I don't do anything wrong. The mere fact that you are asking this question on a sailing group suggests that you have very little experience with boats. If you did, you would know better than to ask on a sailing group as you would know that most sailors have a dim view of motorboaters, I am aware of that, it's called snobbery. Seen it several times during Cowes week and it's pathetic. particularly obviously irresponsible ones like you. Nothing obvious in respect of my sailing/boating/responsibility has been revealed here. What has been revealed is my utter disdain reflected in a silly system which clearly requires updating. There ought to be some sort of "permit" available to those with provable experience gained in a non-licence requiring country like the UK. Said permit should cost no more than a reasonable admin charge. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Having followed this thread ad nausea I believe we should make every effort
to help this chap get a fake licence - hopefully he will end up rotting in a Greek jail which is rather a fitting end for someone like him................ "Steve" wrote in message ... "Ric" , wrote: "Steve" wrote in message .. . I've yet to meet anyone who's been pulled over by cops while on a boat. lol Yet again, you are revealing that you have virtually no experience in driving motorboats. If you did, you would know that motorboats regularaly get pulled over by the authorities - especially in Spain. I have no experience in Spain, some in Greece off a variety of Islands but none off the mainland. Never been pulled yet. Perhaps I don't do anything wrong. The mere fact that you are asking this question on a sailing group suggests that you have very little experience with boats. If you did, you would know better than to ask on a sailing group as you would know that most sailors have a dim view of motorboaters, I am aware of that, it's called snobbery. Seen it several times during Cowes week and it's pathetic. particularly obviously irresponsible ones like you. Nothing obvious in respect of my sailing/boating/responsibility has been revealed here. What has been revealed is my utter disdain reflected in a silly system which clearly requires updating. There ought to be some sort of "permit" available to those with provable experience gained in a non-licence requiring country like the UK. Said permit should cost no more than a reasonable admin charge. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Larry Starr" wrote in message ... Yes Steve, Screw their little grab for money and power by way of making you pay up to £500 to obtain an "International Certificate of Competence (ICC)" . Start with this link and look around the web, make up a Beauty and insert a proper series of characters (numbers/letters) for the official number... http://dmoz.org/Computers/Hacking/Fake_Identification/ That is a good solution if you are a selfish git who doesn't care that you are putting at risk the livelihood of the person who hires you the boat. Here in France the hirer is held responsible - and gets very large fines, equipment confiscated, and even a jail sentence - if he hires to somebody who has no or forged documents. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
"Larry Starr" wrote in message ... Yes Steve, Screw their little grab for money and power by way of making you pay up to £500 to obtain an "International Certificate of Competence (ICC)" . Start with this link and look around the web, make up a Beauty and insert a proper series of characters (numbers/letters) for the official number... http://dmoz.org/Computers/Hacking/Fake_Identification/ That is a good solution if you are a selfish git who doesn't care that you are putting at risk the livelihood of the person who hires you the boat. Here in France the hirer is held responsible - and gets very large fines, equipment confiscated, and even a jail sentence - if he hires to somebody who has no or forged documents. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Yeah, right. Got a link where I can forge a usenet posting license?
I top-post because what I have to say is more important that what you had to say, originally. Live with it. You are a troll. Plonk. -- Karin Conover-Lewis Fair and Balanced since 1959 klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net "Steve" wrote in message ... "Karin Conover-Lewis" , wrote: "Steve" wrote in message .. . I've yet to meet anyone who's been pulled over by cops while on a boat. Clearly you have very little time on the water. Clearly you should learn to post correctly. Posting Guidelines: http://www.moderation.org.uk/unb_posting_policy.html. http://www.plig.net/nnq/nquote.html How to Reply to posts http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html Posting to uk.* http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post Why not to top post http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html Replying to posts hth. |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Yeah, right. Got a link where I can forge a usenet posting license?
I top-post because what I have to say is more important that what you had to say, originally. Live with it. You are a troll. Plonk. -- Karin Conover-Lewis Fair and Balanced since 1959 klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net "Steve" wrote in message ... "Karin Conover-Lewis" , wrote: "Steve" wrote in message .. . I've yet to meet anyone who's been pulled over by cops while on a boat. Clearly you have very little time on the water. Clearly you should learn to post correctly. Posting Guidelines: http://www.moderation.org.uk/unb_posting_policy.html. http://www.plig.net/nnq/nquote.html How to Reply to posts http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html Posting to uk.* http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post Why not to top post http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html Replying to posts hth. |
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This thread has become is almost as good as an old Monty Python sketch! LOL By all means, please continue on! Capt. Bill |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
This thread has become is almost as good as an old Monty Python sketch! LOL By all means, please continue on! Capt. Bill |
Licence to hire speedboat in Greece/Spain
Well stated! However, I believe that "Plonk" should have been all caps.
"I top-post because what I have to say is more important that what you had to say, originally. Live with it. You are a troll. Plonk." |
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