On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:27:25 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Skippy is obviously lying about his hours if he is serious about going for a
USCG license. Last time I looked he's gonna need a couple hundred hours
offshore and we all know he's got nowheres near that.

A near shore/inland OUPV requires no offshore experience at all, and
the USCG definition of offshore is anything outside the COLREGS line.
It *is* a requirement to document 360 days "underway" which means a
minimum of 4 hours per day actually moving, not anchored or tied to a
dock. Most people would need at least two or three years of cruising
to qualify under that definition, probably more.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:27:25 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Skippy is obviously lying about his hours if he is serious about going for
a
USCG license. Last time I looked he's gonna need a couple hundred hours
offshore and we all know he's got nowheres near that.

A near shore/inland OUPV requires no offshore experience at all, and
the USCG definition of offshore is anything outside the COLREGS line.
It *is* a requirement to document 360 days "underway" which means a
minimum of 4 hours per day actually moving, not anchored or tied to a
dock. Most people would need at least two or three years of cruising
to qualify under that definition, probably more.



Something Neal obviously doesn't have... and never will.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Feb 21, 6:27 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
wrote in message

...

I have to take a deep breath
and count down slowly from a pretty big number to keep from screaming
when I hear that Skip is getting a USCG license, but he's cruising.

-- Tom.

Skippy is obviously lying about his hours if he is serious about going for a
USCG license. Last time I looked he's gonna need a couple hundred hours
offshore and we all know he's got nowheres near that. Probably lacks the
hours nearshore and inshore as well. But I've demonstrated with facts that's
he's lied about several things so far so I wouldn't put it past him to
falsify his documented time at the helm in order to cheat his way into a
license that he's totally unqualified for . . .

But, the Coast Guard has issued a license to at least one admitted illegal
drug abuser so I guess they have lax standards when it comes to handing out
licenses to those who don't qualify or will be a danger to other boaters.

Wilbur Hubbard


Dear Skip and Willlburr,

Get your terms correct. Skip......... Its not a "USCG Commercial
LIcnese" its called a "Master License" or "Operator" as in OUPV.

Its not called "offshore." The correct terms are "Oceans" or "Near
Coast" or "Beond the Boundry"

So what does Skip need to be a Captain?

RECENCY - (46 CFR 10.202(e)) - 90 days in the last 3 years.

OPERATOR OF UNINSPECTED PASSENGER VESSELS - (46 CFR 10.467)
A. Near Coastal - 360 days deck service INCLUDING
1. 90 days service on oceans or near coastal waters.
B. Inland - 360 days of deck service.
C. Great Lakes - 360 days deck service INCLUDING
1. 90 days service on Great Lakes

The Master 25-100 grt is about the same except slightly different
tests and more days sea service.

For ALL licenses under 200 grt a person can self certify their
qualifying Sea Service
(Small Vessel Sea Service Form [CG-719S]) if ya own a the vessel. In
other words Skip can say he has 360 days underway and fill out a form.
That is all the proof needed to qualify to sit for a paper and pencil
tests. Once you pass the tests you are a Captain !

I hope Skip learns to use the correct term when is one.

Bob

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:53:54 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote in message
news:CAevj.20178$eg3.7989@trndny05...

In my opinion, Wibur makes some valid points.. he certainly seems to know
the channel he posted about.

Thank you, sir! Wilbur always knows of which he speaks. Some folks even
consider me prescient. But a lot of that is due to a logical mind that
easily discerns cause and effect. Face it, it hardly takes a genius to
realize that the likes of Joe and Skippy are heading for a fall. One can
tell they are possessed of little or no logic or common sense.

And Willie-boy certainly does have common sense! He stays home in the
trailer park and reads about sailing. No sense in getting all cold or
sunburned actually doing it when you can stay home and read about it.


As for Skips "As before, I invite you to tell us of where you've cruised
in the last
- say - year...We're out doing it..."

Like motoring up and down the ICW and going aground every other day is
cruising . . .

And, of course, staying home and reading a book qualifies you to talk
with someone that is actually on a boat?


Skip is living part time on a boat, to call what he has been doing
"cruising" is a very big stretch.

Exactly correct, my good man!


Since his ill-fated launch, ship wreck, repair, rebuild, depression, ..
blah blah .. about all the cruising he has
done is along the coast, and even this was short hops with long anchor
hanging time in between.

And the fool can't even anchor without dragging most every time the wind
blows or the current changes.


Some folks drag at anchor and others don't anchor at all, Except to
plant their butt in the EasyBoy and turn on the TV.

It is February, very cold where I live, snow up the *&^%. If I was
"living" on my boat, "living" the
cruising lifestyle as many do .. I would be in the island, Bahama's,
Cuba.. who knows ... but I would
not be sitting at some "good guy let me use it" dock in FLA. That isn't
cruising, that is houseboat
time.

Perfect for Skippy as he obviously has a houseboat mentality. All the
systems that are constantly breaking down have little to do with sailing
but, rather, with turning a sailboat into a houseboat.

House Boat mentality? From trailer trash down there in the trailer
park?


I enjoy Skips postings, in a weird way they are like a bad tv show with a
predictable plot, but I keep
watching anyway. He speaks of his life, health, relatives, etc... very
enjoyable. But .. not in any
way, or stretch of the imagination is what he has been doing ... CRUISING.

But a better man then Wilbur. Skip is out and about in his boat while
Willie stays home by the fire.

Wilbur Hubbard


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:remove underscores
from address for reply)

"Bob" wrote in message
...
On Feb 21, 6:27 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
wrote in message

...

I have to take a deep breath
and count down slowly from a pretty big number to keep from screaming
when I hear that Skip is getting a USCG license, but he's cruising.

-- Tom.

Skippy is obviously lying about his hours if he is serious about going
for a
USCG license. Last time I looked he's gonna need a couple hundred hours
offshore and we all know he's got nowheres near that. Probably lacks the
hours nearshore and inshore as well. But I've demonstrated with facts
that's
he's lied about several things so far so I wouldn't put it past him to
falsify his documented time at the helm in order to cheat his way into a
license that he's totally unqualified for . . .

bs crapola removed
Wilbur Hubbard


Dear Skip and Willlburr,

Get your terms correct. Skip......... Its not a "USCG Commercial
LIcnese" its called a "Master License" or "Operator" as in OUPV.

Its not called "offshore." The correct terms are "Oceans" or "Near
Coast" or "Beond the Boundry"

So what does Skip need to be a Captain?

RECENCY - (46 CFR 10.202(e)) - 90 days in the last 3 years.

OPERATOR OF UNINSPECTED PASSENGER VESSELS - (46 CFR 10.467)
A. Near Coastal - 360 days deck service INCLUDING
1. 90 days service on oceans or near coastal waters.
B. Inland - 360 days of deck service.
C. Great Lakes - 360 days deck service INCLUDING
1. 90 days service on Great Lakes

The Master 25-100 grt is about the same except slightly different
tests and more days sea service.

For ALL licenses under 200 grt a person can self certify their
qualifying Sea Service
(Small Vessel Sea Service Form [CG-719S]) if ya own a the vessel. In
other words Skip can say he has 360 days underway and fill out a form.
That is all the proof needed to qualify to sit for a paper and pencil
tests. Once you pass the tests you are a Captain !

I hope Skip learns to use the correct term when is one.

Bob


You left out one thing... Neal should simply F.O.A.D.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On 2008-02-22 08:49:56 -0500, Bruce in Bangkok said:

And Willie-boy snip

Bruce,

Willie really isn't someone who needs to be uncovered in this group. He
isn't worth the effort.

But I pay attention to what you say. When you waste your effort upon
him, it wastes my time.

I understand your urges to strike against him/it, but I would prefer
you leave him alone to fester in the area(s) of his own creation.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:44:57 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2008-02-22 08:49:56 -0500, Bruce in Bangkok said:

And Willie-boy snip

Bruce,

Willie really isn't someone who needs to be uncovered in this group. He
isn't worth the effort.

But I pay attention to what you say. When you waste your effort upon
him, it wastes my time.

I understand your urges to strike against him/it, but I would prefer
you leave him alone to fester in the area(s) of his own creation.

Yes, I agree with you and I really do try to ignore him (he Is so
immanently ignorable). I will try to do better in the future.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:remove underscores
from address for reply)

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:44:57 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:


On 2008-02-22 08:49:56 -0500, Bruce in Bangkok said:


And Willie-boy snip

Bruce,

Willie really isn't someone who needs to be uncovered in this group. He
isn't worth the effort.

But I pay attention to what you say. When you waste your effort upon
him, it wastes my time.

I understand your urges to strike against him/it, but I would prefer
you leave him alone to fester in the area(s) of his own creation.


Yes, I agree with you and I really do try to ignore him (he Is so
immanently ignorable). I will try to do better in the future.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(Note:remove underscores
from address for reply)


Good Man, Bruce...

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:43:47 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:04:54 GMT, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
wrote:

Cruising in the way I think of it, is long trips across open ocean.

That is more correctly called "passage making", and *very* few people
actually do it to any great extent. I claim no special expertise but
find coastal cruising more interesting for the most part.

I have crossed the Atlantic twice, on big ships, Queen Mary II for
one. I saw exactly one boxboat.

Casady