It'll adhere really well to glazed porcelain? I learn something new
every day!

Peggie

LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: Peggie, question
From: Peggie Hall


I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted
porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and
that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to
glazed porcelain...at least not for long.

Peggie


Then again:

TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing kits
for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain, fiberglass
or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a free
video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It does not
contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in white
only.



http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm


--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Hope it works better than the stuff they use to refinish your enameled
bathtub.
We had ours done a while back and the new 'finish' pealed within 3 months.
Have to admit it only pealed on the bottom...not the sides. I've been after
the wife to get them back in for 'warranty' work.
The process was her idea against my opinion. For a few hundred more we could
have bought the 'liner' for the old tub till we could rip out and renovate
the entire bathroom.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...
It'll adhere really well to glazed porcelain? I learn something new
every day!

Peggie

LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: Peggie, question
From: Peggie Hall


I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted
porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and
that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to
glazed porcelain...at least not for long.

Peggie


Then again:

TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing
kits
for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain,
fiberglass
or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a
free
video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It
does not
contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in
white
only.



http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm


--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Hope it works better than the stuff they use to refinish your enameled
bathtub.
We had ours done a while back and the new 'finish' pealed within 3 months.
Have to admit it only pealed on the bottom...not the sides. I've been after
the wife to get them back in for 'warranty' work.
The process was her idea against my opinion. For a few hundred more we could
have bought the 'liner' for the old tub till we could rip out and renovate
the entire bathroom.

Peggie Hall wrote in message
...
It'll adhere really well to glazed porcelain? I learn something new
every day!

Peggie

LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: Peggie, question
From: Peggie Hall


I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted
porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and
that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to
glazed porcelain...at least not for long.

Peggie


Then again:

TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing
kits
for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain,
fiberglass
or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a
free
video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It
does not
contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in
white
only.



http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm


--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:19:50 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:


And btw...the same goes for any marine santitation equipment on eBay.

You know, Peggie, while there's a lot of things I would consider
buying on eBay, I think I speak for a lot of sailors when I say a
marine head isn't one of them.

Getting free advice from helpful people online like yourself is one
thing...but the phrase "wow, a cheap old toilet!" ranks up there with
"wow, a paper mache hammer!" in terms of utility.

Others may think differently.

R.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:19:50 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:


And btw...the same goes for any marine santitation equipment on eBay.

You know, Peggie, while there's a lot of things I would consider
buying on eBay, I think I speak for a lot of sailors when I say a
marine head isn't one of them.

Getting free advice from helpful people online like yourself is one
thing...but the phrase "wow, a cheap old toilet!" ranks up there with
"wow, a paper mache hammer!" in terms of utility.

Others may think differently.

R.

rhys wrote:
You know, Peggie, while there's a lot of things I would consider
buying on eBay, I think I speak for a lot of sailors when I say a
marine head isn't one of them.

Getting free advice from helpful people online like yourself is one
thing...but the phrase "wow, a cheap old toilet!" ranks up there with
"wow, a paper mache hammer!" in terms of utility.

Not necessarily....I do occasionally see something worth bidding on. For
instance, if you can get a PH II, used or not, for about $150 that only
needs a $35 rebuild kit, that MIGHT be a good buy. A Wilcox Skipper or
Imperial would be an excellent buy for $200-$300, even if you had to put
$100-$200 into it, 'cuz those are $1000 toilets built to last at least
100 years. A company called Fore & Aft Marine has sold a couple of brand
new Lectra/San MC's on eBay...they went for about $100 less than in the
catalogs, making 'em a good buy.

Otoh, somebody else had anothr Lectra/San on eBay recently..." appears
to be new, never been installed." And from the photo, I'd agree. It sold
for about $400, which sounds like a great deal. Except the controller
was the original dial that's been obsolete for at least 15 years--you
can't even get parts for it any more, which means this unit has been
sitting on somebody's shelf for at least that long, maybe even longer.
It's gonna cost the "lucky" bidder more to put it into working condition
than he'd have to pay for a brand new one. When he finds that out, he'll
prob'ly put it back up on eBay to get his money back from another
unsuspecting soul.

I've seen "new" Mansfield (that brand went out of existance when SeaLand
bought Mansfield in 1984) VacuFlush toilets and TDX Type I MSDs (SeaLand
redesigned it and changed the name to SanX around 1990) on
Ebay...SeaLand manual toilets--SeaLand hasn't made manual toilets since
1986...toilets that are missing the pumps--just the bowl on the base is
left...toilets so obsolete I don't even have a clue what they were or if
all the parts are still there. The only value any of it has would be to
someone who has one of these systems and needs hardware parts that
aren't available any more...but unsuspecting bidders drive the prices
too high to even make that worthwhile.

So it's not just cheap old toilets, but allegedly brand new equipment
that you have be wary of buying on eBay. Occasionally, there ARE good
buys, but not often...so ask me to take a look before you bid.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

rhys wrote:
You know, Peggie, while there's a lot of things I would consider
buying on eBay, I think I speak for a lot of sailors when I say a
marine head isn't one of them.

Getting free advice from helpful people online like yourself is one
thing...but the phrase "wow, a cheap old toilet!" ranks up there with
"wow, a paper mache hammer!" in terms of utility.

Not necessarily....I do occasionally see something worth bidding on. For
instance, if you can get a PH II, used or not, for about $150 that only
needs a $35 rebuild kit, that MIGHT be a good buy. A Wilcox Skipper or
Imperial would be an excellent buy for $200-$300, even if you had to put
$100-$200 into it, 'cuz those are $1000 toilets built to last at least
100 years. A company called Fore & Aft Marine has sold a couple of brand
new Lectra/San MC's on eBay...they went for about $100 less than in the
catalogs, making 'em a good buy.

Otoh, somebody else had anothr Lectra/San on eBay recently..." appears
to be new, never been installed." And from the photo, I'd agree. It sold
for about $400, which sounds like a great deal. Except the controller
was the original dial that's been obsolete for at least 15 years--you
can't even get parts for it any more, which means this unit has been
sitting on somebody's shelf for at least that long, maybe even longer.
It's gonna cost the "lucky" bidder more to put it into working condition
than he'd have to pay for a brand new one. When he finds that out, he'll
prob'ly put it back up on eBay to get his money back from another
unsuspecting soul.

I've seen "new" Mansfield (that brand went out of existance when SeaLand
bought Mansfield in 1984) VacuFlush toilets and TDX Type I MSDs (SeaLand
redesigned it and changed the name to SanX around 1990) on
Ebay...SeaLand manual toilets--SeaLand hasn't made manual toilets since
1986...toilets that are missing the pumps--just the bowl on the base is
left...toilets so obsolete I don't even have a clue what they were or if
all the parts are still there. The only value any of it has would be to
someone who has one of these systems and needs hardware parts that
aren't available any more...but unsuspecting bidders drive the prices
too high to even make that worthwhile.

So it's not just cheap old toilets, but allegedly brand new equipment
that you have be wary of buying on eBay. Occasionally, there ARE good
buys, but not often...so ask me to take a look before you bid.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:44:35 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:
snip

So it's not just cheap old toilets, but allegedly brand new equipment
that you have be wary of buying on eBay. Occasionally, there ARE good
buys, but not often...so ask me to take a look before you bid.

I think by stating the hazards of getting outmoded "new" heads, plus
the impossibility of confirming the real state of same, you confirmed
my point. I would buy a used diesel because I can see it in action,
see the logs, see the general condition and get an oil analysis done.

No pun intended, but a used or "new" (read outmoded, or outcommoded)
head seems a bit of a crap shoot.

Better I should buy a W/C and will it to my kids G because in a
hundred years I think I'll be reduced to Sharks and a bucket...G

R.

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:44:35 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:
snip

So it's not just cheap old toilets, but allegedly brand new equipment
that you have be wary of buying on eBay. Occasionally, there ARE good
buys, but not often...so ask me to take a look before you bid.

I think by stating the hazards of getting outmoded "new" heads, plus
the impossibility of confirming the real state of same, you confirmed
my point. I would buy a used diesel because I can see it in action,
see the logs, see the general condition and get an oil analysis done.

No pun intended, but a used or "new" (read outmoded, or outcommoded)
head seems a bit of a crap shoot.

Better I should buy a W/C and will it to my kids G because in a
hundred years I think I'll be reduced to Sharks and a bucket...G

R.