Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
Can you not paint it? Epoxy paint, enamel, porcelain paint...

I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted
porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and
that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to
glazed porcelain...at least not for long.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"


http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Subject: Peggie, question
From: Peggie Hall

I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted
porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and
that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to
glazed porcelain...at least not for long.

Peggie

Then again:

TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing kits
for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain, fiberglass
or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a free
video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It does not
contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in white
only.



http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm

Subject: Peggie, question
From: Peggie Hall

I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted
porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and
that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to
glazed porcelain...at least not for long.

Peggie

Then again:

TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing kits
for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain, fiberglass
or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a free
video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It does not
contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in white
only.



http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm

Peggie;
You owe me .30 cents a mile, I'll take it out in free advice.

Well, there were a couple less of them this morning. No question, they
are Raritan Atlantes.

I printed out the parts sheet, and took it with me. It was like looking
at a map of the Bahamas and looking for Catalina Island. The water was
there, but the land looked wrong.

I'd bet the store guy was right, they weren't macerators. Maybe the
macerator was there and I couldn't find it. All parts connected like
they were made to be connected, finishing in proper sanitation hose. But
no wires, and no empty holes. The big stuff, and the details were as
shown on the parts sheet.

Nothing had been removed, all plumbing looked like it had just been
disconnected and the unit pulled out, but there was no trace of anything
electrical, nothing. It looked exactly like the drawing, and looked
nothing like it at the same time.

Confused? So am I.

Let's hear from someone else who saw these things.
Jim

Jim wrote:
Peggie;

I have been lusting after the "Sea era" head at your suggestion, when I
ran across 7 used heads. They appear to be Raritan Atlantes. The word
"Raritan" in stamped on the back of the bowl. One piece porcelain bowl,
just as it appears in the catalogue I have. The store employee said
they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating
heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know.

They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't
either).

I wasn't sure what I was looking at at the store, so I went home and
looked at the web site. Of course the exploded parts diagram isn't
available, neither is the brochure ("not available on this server").

Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless
everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no
manuals.

I will probably go down and get a better look tomorrow. I still don't
know what's missing, and what the worst case scenario is on getting them
installed and working.

Your opinion, please.

Peggie;
You owe me .30 cents a mile, I'll take it out in free advice.

Well, there were a couple less of them this morning. No question, they
are Raritan Atlantes.

I printed out the parts sheet, and took it with me. It was like looking
at a map of the Bahamas and looking for Catalina Island. The water was
there, but the land looked wrong.

I'd bet the store guy was right, they weren't macerators. Maybe the
macerator was there and I couldn't find it. All parts connected like
they were made to be connected, finishing in proper sanitation hose. But
no wires, and no empty holes. The big stuff, and the details were as
shown on the parts sheet.

Nothing had been removed, all plumbing looked like it had just been
disconnected and the unit pulled out, but there was no trace of anything
electrical, nothing. It looked exactly like the drawing, and looked
nothing like it at the same time.

Confused? So am I.

Let's hear from someone else who saw these things.
Jim

Jim wrote:
Peggie;

I have been lusting after the "Sea era" head at your suggestion, when I
ran across 7 used heads. They appear to be Raritan Atlantes. The word
"Raritan" in stamped on the back of the bowl. One piece porcelain bowl,
just as it appears in the catalogue I have. The store employee said
they were fresh water flush, but he also said they weren't macerating
heads, the catalogue says they are. Maybe he didn't know.

They are "take outs" as someone didn't like the color, black (I don't
either).

I wasn't sure what I was looking at at the store, so I went home and
looked at the web site. Of course the exploded parts diagram isn't
available, neither is the brochure ("not available on this server").

Ok, the asking price is $135 each. They appear to be unused, spotless
everywhere. Seat included, hoses hanging out the back. No solenoid, no
manuals.

I will probably go down and get a better look tomorrow. I still don't
know what's missing, and what the worst case scenario is on getting them
installed and working.

Your opinion, please.

There was a rage some years ago, for painting discolored, damaged
baths and sinks with two part epoxy paint. I find nothing outrageous
about expecting epoxy to adhere quite well to a glass surface (which
defines the vitreous enamel surface)

Brian W

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:17:53 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
Can you not paint it? Epoxy paint, enamel, porcelain paint...

I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted
porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and
that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to
glazed porcelain...at least not for long.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall

There was a rage some years ago, for painting discolored, damaged
baths and sinks with two part epoxy paint. I find nothing outrageous
about expecting epoxy to adhere quite well to a glass surface (which
defines the vitreous enamel surface)

Brian W

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:17:53 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
Can you not paint it? Epoxy paint, enamel, porcelain paint...

I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted
porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and
that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to
glazed porcelain...at least not for long.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall

Jim wrote:
Peggie;
You owe me .30 cents a mile, I'll take it out in free advice.

You have a deal.


Well, there were a couple less of them this morning. No question, they
are Raritan Atlantes.

I printed out the parts sheet, and took it with me. It was like looking
at a map of the Bahamas and looking for Catalina Island. The water was
there, but the land looked wrong.

I'd bet the store guy was right, they weren't macerators.

They've obviously been cannibalized...'cuz the Atlantes IS a macerating
toilet. If you look at the drawing you'll see that part # 13 is the
macerator housing, 17 is the macerator, 18 is the gasket under the
housing cover...and 22 is the cover. The housing is clear plastic,
btw...either it wasn't there or you didn't recognize it.

It looked exactly like the drawing, and looked
nothing like it at the same time.

Confused? So am I.

Nope, not confused...just wondering if they're really worth any more
that they're asking for 'em. I definitely wouldn't advise anyone to buy
one of 'em...at least not without comparing every single part, down to
the last gasket and screw, with the parts list, and then talking to
Raritan about what it will cost to replace what's missing...and it's
obvious that at least a few things--the macerator and either the
solenoid or the intake pump (who knows which was really there?)vare.

And btw...the same goes for any marine santitation equipment on eBay. A
LOT of it is either missing major parts, or is so old--even if still
"new in box"--that it's obsolete...which means that if nothing is else
is wrong, all the rubber parts are long since shot, and may not be
replaceable. That doesn't apply to ALL marine sanitation
equipment/toilets...a few worth buying do show up on eBay. But before
you bid on anything, please ask me to look at it. I'll be glad to tell
you what it's likely to need--if it's even worth bidding on at
all--whether the parts are still available, and the max amount it's
really worth, if anything.

Let's hear from someone else who saw these things.

By all means...'cuz I'd like to know too.

Thanks for making the trip!

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Jim wrote:
Peggie;
You owe me .30 cents a mile, I'll take it out in free advice.

You have a deal.


Well, there were a couple less of them this morning. No question, they
are Raritan Atlantes.

I printed out the parts sheet, and took it with me. It was like looking
at a map of the Bahamas and looking for Catalina Island. The water was
there, but the land looked wrong.

I'd bet the store guy was right, they weren't macerators.

They've obviously been cannibalized...'cuz the Atlantes IS a macerating
toilet. If you look at the drawing you'll see that part # 13 is the
macerator housing, 17 is the macerator, 18 is the gasket under the
housing cover...and 22 is the cover. The housing is clear plastic,
btw...either it wasn't there or you didn't recognize it.

It looked exactly like the drawing, and looked
nothing like it at the same time.

Confused? So am I.

Nope, not confused...just wondering if they're really worth any more
that they're asking for 'em. I definitely wouldn't advise anyone to buy
one of 'em...at least not without comparing every single part, down to
the last gasket and screw, with the parts list, and then talking to
Raritan about what it will cost to replace what's missing...and it's
obvious that at least a few things--the macerator and either the
solenoid or the intake pump (who knows which was really there?)vare.

And btw...the same goes for any marine santitation equipment on eBay. A
LOT of it is either missing major parts, or is so old--even if still
"new in box"--that it's obsolete...which means that if nothing is else
is wrong, all the rubber parts are long since shot, and may not be
replaceable. That doesn't apply to ALL marine sanitation
equipment/toilets...a few worth buying do show up on eBay. But before
you bid on anything, please ask me to look at it. I'll be glad to tell
you what it's likely to need--if it's even worth bidding on at
all--whether the parts are still available, and the max amount it's
really worth, if anything.

Let's hear from someone else who saw these things.

By all means...'cuz I'd like to know too.

Thanks for making the trip!

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

It'll adhere really well to glazed porcelain? I learn something new
every day!

Peggie

LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: Peggie, question
From: Peggie Hall


I doubt it Lloyd...in fact, I don't think I've ever seen a painted
porcelain sink or other device, only dinnerware, figurines etc....and
that's painted before it's glazed. I doubt that paint would adhere to
glazed porcelain...at least not for long.

Peggie


Then again:

TUBS, SINKS, SHOWERS & SHOWER SURROUNDS. We offer two unique refinishing kits
for sinks, tubs, & showers. Both products can be used on porcelain, fiberglass
or tile. Our 2-part Spray-On Kit has everything you need (including a free
video tape showing you how to do it) to refinish a standard sink. It does not
contain enough product to refinish a tub. The spray kit is available in white
only.



http://www.armorpoxy.com/html/bathinfo.htm


--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html