Forgot one little point in my rant; the restrictions on travel have been
increased can't have anything to do with GWB or his brothers political
considerations in FL could they?
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
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I heard on the radio this morning (US 1 radio at Big Pine) that the
boaters had a humanitarian license and were told it was OK to go (they
were taking medicines to Cuba), but that they couldn't take their
boats!!!


grandma Rosalie

Larry W4CSC wrote:

You don't REALLY believe POTUS knew anything about this incident any
more than my friend's Ovaltine bust, do you? They broke the law and
law enforcement did its job.



Sorry folks but Larry pulled a string that cannot be ignored.

About this particular incident he was well aware. The Conch Regata was
targeted directly by Ashcroft as a way to intimidate the rest of us. It
was even mentioned in a DOJ briefing back in June. Treasury and the DOJ
waivered a bit when the fact came out that the permit was withdrawn the
day before the regata was to depart but word came directly from chief
puppet master Carl Rove to push it.

The odd thing is, if you are of Cuban extraction you can go to Cuba and
although they are supposed to be limited to carrying no more than $200
worth of goods if you visit the Miami airport you will see them lined up
with everything from color TVs to microwaves. They also send over a
Billion dollars a year. That is the second largest income stream for
the island. Second only to European and Canadian tourism.

This restriction on the rest of the citizens of the US is strictly to
keep the Miami Cubans voting Republican. Last year when the Dubya
tightened the restrictions on the rest of us he relaxed the rules on the
Miami Cubans.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Larry W4CSC wrote:

You don't REALLY believe POTUS knew anything about this incident any
more than my friend's Ovaltine bust, do you? They broke the law and
law enforcement did its job.



Sorry folks but Larry pulled a string that cannot be ignored.

About this particular incident he was well aware. The Conch Regata was
targeted directly by Ashcroft as a way to intimidate the rest of us. It
was even mentioned in a DOJ briefing back in June. Treasury and the DOJ
waivered a bit when the fact came out that the permit was withdrawn the
day before the regata was to depart but word came directly from chief
puppet master Carl Rove to push it.

The odd thing is, if you are of Cuban extraction you can go to Cuba and
although they are supposed to be limited to carrying no more than $200
worth of goods if you visit the Miami airport you will see them lined up
with everything from color TVs to microwaves. They also send over a
Billion dollars a year. That is the second largest income stream for
the island. Second only to European and Canadian tourism.

This restriction on the rest of the citizens of the US is strictly to
keep the Miami Cubans voting Republican. Last year when the Dubya
tightened the restrictions on the rest of us he relaxed the rules on the
Miami Cubans.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

land of the free and are not able to go were you want
"MMC" wrote in message
...
Forgot one little point in my rant; the restrictions on travel have been
increased can't have anything to do with GWB or his brothers political
considerations in FL could they?
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
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I heard on the radio this morning (US 1 radio at Big Pine) that the
boaters had a humanitarian license and were told it was OK to go (they
were taking medicines to Cuba), but that they couldn't take their
boats!!!


grandma Rosalie

land of the free and are not able to go were you want
"MMC" wrote in message
...
Forgot one little point in my rant; the restrictions on travel have been
increased can't have anything to do with GWB or his brothers political
considerations in FL could they?
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
news
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I heard on the radio this morning (US 1 radio at Big Pine) that the
boaters had a humanitarian license and were told it was OK to go (they
were taking medicines to Cuba), but that they couldn't take their
boats!!!


grandma Rosalie

go to Canada and then to cuba that is what most due
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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Larry W4CSC wrote:

You don't REALLY believe POTUS knew anything about this incident any
more than my friend's Ovaltine bust, do you? They broke the law and
law enforcement did its job.



Sorry folks but Larry pulled a string that cannot be ignored.

About this particular incident he was well aware. The Conch Regata was
targeted directly by Ashcroft as a way to intimidate the rest of us. It
was even mentioned in a DOJ briefing back in June. Treasury and the DOJ
waivered a bit when the fact came out that the permit was withdrawn the
day before the regata was to depart but word came directly from chief
puppet master Carl Rove to push it.

The odd thing is, if you are of Cuban extraction you can go to Cuba and
although they are supposed to be limited to carrying no more than $200
worth of goods if you visit the Miami airport you will see them lined up
with everything from color TVs to microwaves. They also send over a
Billion dollars a year. That is the second largest income stream for
the island. Second only to European and Canadian tourism.

This restriction on the rest of the citizens of the US is strictly to
keep the Miami Cubans voting Republican. Last year when the Dubya
tightened the restrictions on the rest of us he relaxed the rules on the
Miami Cubans.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

go to Canada and then to cuba that is what most due
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:iVfXb.56932$u_6.15375@lakeread04...


Larry W4CSC wrote:

You don't REALLY believe POTUS knew anything about this incident any
more than my friend's Ovaltine bust, do you? They broke the law and
law enforcement did its job.



Sorry folks but Larry pulled a string that cannot be ignored.

About this particular incident he was well aware. The Conch Regata was
targeted directly by Ashcroft as a way to intimidate the rest of us. It
was even mentioned in a DOJ briefing back in June. Treasury and the DOJ
waivered a bit when the fact came out that the permit was withdrawn the
day before the regata was to depart but word came directly from chief
puppet master Carl Rove to push it.

The odd thing is, if you are of Cuban extraction you can go to Cuba and
although they are supposed to be limited to carrying no more than $200
worth of goods if you visit the Miami airport you will see them lined up
with everything from color TVs to microwaves. They also send over a
Billion dollars a year. That is the second largest income stream for
the island. Second only to European and Canadian tourism.

This restriction on the rest of the citizens of the US is strictly to
keep the Miami Cubans voting Republican. Last year when the Dubya
tightened the restrictions on the rest of us he relaxed the rules on the
Miami Cubans.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 08:43:40 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:33:52 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

This restriction on the rest of the citizens of the US is strictly to
keep the Miami Cubans voting Republican. Last year when the Dubya
tightened the restrictions on the rest of us he relaxed the rules on the
Miami Cubans.

Glenn, you are usually a reasonable poster. Please don't pull a Krause
and F-Up this group too.

Can't comment much about Cuba other than as a Canadian I can tan my
white arse semi-cheaply on their beaches and enrich their crappy
economy with my three-quarter dollars. G Cuba's popular as a
destination with Canadians, but no more so than half a dozen
non-Communist Dictatorship beauty spots of the Carribean.

But this...obsession...with Cuba on the part of American governments
and Miami grandkids of Batista cronies is looking a little crazy at
this stage. U.S. governments regularly play footsie with bigger
*******s than Castro (who I am under no illusions about, by the way),
and nobody blinks.

The frankly stupid results is that U.S. boaters can't cruise some of
the nicest spots on earth and hang with the generally friendly and
arguably pretty uncorrupted Cuban people...who understand a lot more
about their farcical situation and the real nature of the Castro
regime than most outsiders suspect.

Given the choice between a home-boy dictator, literacy and rations and
foreign gangsters, ignorance and starvation, they keep going for
Castro. What fools they must be, eh?

Anyway, maybe someday Americans will be able to cut through all the BS
on the topic, visit Cuba and decide for themselves.
R.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 08:43:40 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:33:52 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

This restriction on the rest of the citizens of the US is strictly to
keep the Miami Cubans voting Republican. Last year when the Dubya
tightened the restrictions on the rest of us he relaxed the rules on the
Miami Cubans.

Glenn, you are usually a reasonable poster. Please don't pull a Krause
and F-Up this group too.

Can't comment much about Cuba other than as a Canadian I can tan my
white arse semi-cheaply on their beaches and enrich their crappy
economy with my three-quarter dollars. G Cuba's popular as a
destination with Canadians, but no more so than half a dozen
non-Communist Dictatorship beauty spots of the Carribean.

But this...obsession...with Cuba on the part of American governments
and Miami grandkids of Batista cronies is looking a little crazy at
this stage. U.S. governments regularly play footsie with bigger
*******s than Castro (who I am under no illusions about, by the way),
and nobody blinks.

The frankly stupid results is that U.S. boaters can't cruise some of
the nicest spots on earth and hang with the generally friendly and
arguably pretty uncorrupted Cuban people...who understand a lot more
about their farcical situation and the real nature of the Castro
regime than most outsiders suspect.

Given the choice between a home-boy dictator, literacy and rations and
foreign gangsters, ignorance and starvation, they keep going for
Castro. What fools they must be, eh?

Anyway, maybe someday Americans will be able to cut through all the BS
on the topic, visit Cuba and decide for themselves.
R.

I agree 100%.
In any country under embargo, the powerful have what they need and want and
the poor are caused to suffer by the embargo, so who is the target?
By the way, I'm an American Military Veteran and ex-Republican who has alot
of trouble walking thanks to a bomb outside Baghdad.
Merlin.
"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 08:43:40 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:33:52 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

This restriction on the rest of the citizens of the US is strictly to
keep the Miami Cubans voting Republican. Last year when the Dubya
tightened the restrictions on the rest of us he relaxed the rules on the
Miami Cubans.

Glenn, you are usually a reasonable poster. Please don't pull a Krause
and F-Up this group too.

Can't comment much about Cuba other than as a Canadian I can tan my
white arse semi-cheaply on their beaches and enrich their crappy
economy with my three-quarter dollars. G Cuba's popular as a
destination with Canadians, but no more so than half a dozen
non-Communist Dictatorship beauty spots of the Carribean.

But this...obsession...with Cuba on the part of American governments
and Miami grandkids of Batista cronies is looking a little crazy at
this stage. U.S. governments regularly play footsie with bigger
*******s than Castro (who I am under no illusions about, by the way),
and nobody blinks.

The frankly stupid results is that U.S. boaters can't cruise some of
the nicest spots on earth and hang with the generally friendly and
arguably pretty uncorrupted Cuban people...who understand a lot more
about their farcical situation and the real nature of the Castro
regime than most outsiders suspect.

Given the choice between a home-boy dictator, literacy and rations and
foreign gangsters, ignorance and starvation, they keep going for
Castro. What fools they must be, eh?

Anyway, maybe someday Americans will be able to cut through all the BS
on the topic, visit Cuba and decide for themselves.
R.