Are you a sailing sailboater or a motoring sailboater?
Could make the difference.
G
"engsol" wrote in message
...
If this has been beat to death before, my apology.

I'm looking for a boat to enjoy upon retirement this May. Being poor,
I'll have to settle for an older boat, 30-32 feet. I've seen a number of
boats
in my price range on my list, but have rejected the ones with an OB. But
then I got to wondering...should I do so?

The advantage of an OB is cost, doesn't take up interior room, at least
semi-reliable these days. But then I wonder about enough power in a
seaway. The area I plan to sail (San Juan Islands) is quite sheltered....
wind chop, but seldom any significant swells. A safe haven is rarely more
than 4 - 5 hours away.

So what am I missing, or haven't thought of, as regards to OB power?

Thanks,
Norm

I had a 7.5 HP and a 3.5 HP outboard(s) on my old 24ft sloop in Puget
Sound and I never had a problem. If it needed work I'd just pull it
off and take it to the shop. Sometimes I would motor for hour's. I
liked it. I got good at docking and having one hand on the engine
throttle and the other on the tiller. After I had motored out of the
marina I would turn off the engine and while laying on my stomach off
the transom and pull the motor bracket to the up position so that the
long shaft lower unit was out of the water for less drag.

But this could be a difficult reach on a 30' boat with more freeboard
as a bigger boat may be higher off the water. Depend's on the boat.

engsol wrote in message . ..
If this has been beat to death before, my apology.

I'm looking for a boat to enjoy upon retirement this May. Being poor,
I'll have to settle for an older boat, 30-32 feet. I've seen a number of boats
in my price range on my list, but have rejected the ones with an OB. But
then I got to wondering...should I do so?

The advantage of an OB is cost, doesn't take up interior room, at least
semi-reliable these days. But then I wonder about enough power in a
seaway. The area I plan to sail (San Juan Islands) is quite sheltered....
wind chop, but seldom any significant swells. A safe haven is rarely more
than 4 - 5 hours away.

So what am I missing, or haven't thought of, as regards to OB power?

Thanks,
Norm

An OB will give you a little weight, up atop the transom.

An IB would provide a greater mass, and place it well down in the hull.

It would seem to me that the lower COG would be a benefit, but I guess that
would depend whether the actual mounting is below the current effective COG.

I'd think most NA's would consider the weight and mass of an inboard when
designing a boat, so in some cases it might be foolish to actually remove an
existing inboard when making a swtich to OB power.

Diesel is an option with an inboard, not really so with an outboard. Just the
diesel vs. gas equation should make the inboard more reliable than the
outboard.

An OB will give you a little weight, up atop the transom.

An IB would provide a greater mass, and place it well down in the hull.

It would seem to me that the lower COG would be a benefit, but I guess that
would depend whether the actual mounting is below the current effective COG.

I'd think most NA's would consider the weight and mass of an inboard when
designing a boat, so in some cases it might be foolish to actually remove an
existing inboard when making a swtich to OB power.

Diesel is an option with an inboard, not really so with an outboard. Just the
diesel vs. gas equation should make the inboard more reliable than the
outboard.

I had a 7.5 HP and a 3.5 HP outboard(s) on my old 24ft sloop in Puget
Sound and I never had a problem. If it needed work I'd just pull it
off and take it to the shop. Sometimes I would motor for hour's. I
liked it. I got good at docking and having one hand on the engine
throttle and the other on the tiller. After I had motored out of the
marina I would turn off the engine and while laying on my stomach off
the transom and pull the motor bracket to the up position so that the
long shaft lower unit was out of the water for less drag.

But this could be a difficult reach on a 30' boat with more freeboard
as a bigger boat may be higher off the water. Depend's on the boat.

engsol wrote in message . ..
If this has been beat to death before, my apology.

I'm looking for a boat to enjoy upon retirement this May. Being poor,
I'll have to settle for an older boat, 30-32 feet. I've seen a number of boats
in my price range on my list, but have rejected the ones with an OB. But
then I got to wondering...should I do so?

The advantage of an OB is cost, doesn't take up interior room, at least
semi-reliable these days. But then I wonder about enough power in a
seaway. The area I plan to sail (San Juan Islands) is quite sheltered....
wind chop, but seldom any significant swells. A safe haven is rarely more
than 4 - 5 hours away.

So what am I missing, or haven't thought of, as regards to OB power?

Thanks,
Norm

I use a Yamaha T9.9 four stroke on my 26' sloop. On the second boat 31' LOD
I use an inboard diesel. Both out of PortTownsend. For the San Juans you
definitely need an engine but both will work. Inboard takes up inside space
diesel is safer. Outboard gives you more internal room but gas is more
dangerous. Diesels last at least 10 times as long as outboards in terms of
engine hours. If you go inboard use diesel not gas. If you go outboard use
four stroke with a reduction gear and a long shaft not a two stroke. Both
work fine.

M.

PS You want a ready to go boat or one that needs a bit of work?


"engsol" wrote in message
...
If this has been beat to death before, my apology.

I'm looking for a boat to enjoy upon retirement this May. Being poor,
I'll have to settle for an older boat, 30-32 feet. I've seen a number of
boats
in my price range on my list, but have rejected the ones with an OB. But
then I got to wondering...should I do so?

The advantage of an OB is cost, doesn't take up interior room, at least
semi-reliable these days. But then I wonder about enough power in a
seaway. The area I plan to sail (San Juan Islands) is quite sheltered....
wind chop, but seldom any significant swells. A safe haven is rarely more
than 4 - 5 hours away.

So what am I missing, or haven't thought of, as regards to OB power?

Thanks,
Norm

M,
Thanks for the advice. It's right in line with other good responses to my query.
A light-weight OB might be OK as a backup, but I have to admit I like the
safety of diesel.

As to the boat condition, I'm willing to trade my sweat for a lower price. As odd as it may sound,
(I can hear the old-timers groaning), I'm looking forward to working on my boat and learning how
to repair and maintain her.

Have any leads or pointers?
Norm

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:34:41 -0800, "Michael" wrote:

I use a Yamaha T9.9 four stroke on my 26' sloop. On the second boat 31' LOD
I use an inboard diesel. Both out of PortTownsend. For the San Juans you
definitely need an engine but both will work. Inboard takes up inside space
diesel is safer. Outboard gives you more internal room but gas is more
dangerous. Diesels last at least 10 times as long as outboards in terms of
engine hours. If you go inboard use diesel not gas. If you go outboard use
four stroke with a reduction gear and a long shaft not a two stroke. Both
work fine.

M.

PS You want a ready to go boat or one that needs a bit of work?


"engsol" wrote in message
.. .
If this has been beat to death before, my apology.

I'm looking for a boat to enjoy upon retirement this May. Being poor,
I'll have to settle for an older boat, 30-32 feet. I've seen a number of
boats
in my price range on my list, but have rejected the ones with an OB. But
then I got to wondering...should I do so?

The advantage of an OB is cost, doesn't take up interior room, at least
semi-reliable these days. But then I wonder about enough power in a
seaway. The area I plan to sail (San Juan Islands) is quite sheltered....
wind chop, but seldom any significant swells. A safe haven is rarely more
than 4 - 5 hours away.

So what am I missing, or haven't thought of, as regards to OB power?

Thanks,
Norm

If you don't find anything by end of June send me an email. I'm heading out
to work on a freighter until then. I have a 26' Westerly Centaur which is
what I'll term an advanced project boat. I used her for three years and now
she's on the dry and does need some work. In my case I could have her back
sailing in three weeks. Except I bought the next size larger a Westerly
Berwick. The Centaur will be available in July when I get back with or
without the T9.9 Yamaha. Can you wire a 12 volt system? Can you finish off
a cabin interior. That's the bulk of it.

M.




"engsol" wrote in message
...
M,
Thanks for the advice. It's right in line with other good responses to my
query.
A light-weight OB might be OK as a backup, but I have to admit I like the
safety of diesel.

As to the boat condition, I'm willing to trade my sweat for a lower price.
As odd as it may sound,
(I can hear the old-timers groaning), I'm looking forward to working on my
boat and learning how
to repair and maintain her.

Have any leads or pointers?
Norm

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:34:41 -0800, "Michael"
wrote:

I use a Yamaha T9.9 four stroke on my 26' sloop. On the second boat 31'
LOD
I use an inboard diesel. Both out of PortTownsend. For the San Juans you
definitely need an engine but both will work. Inboard takes up inside
space
diesel is safer. Outboard gives you more internal room but gas is more
dangerous. Diesels last at least 10 times as long as outboards in terms
of
engine hours. If you go inboard use diesel not gas. If you go outboard
use
four stroke with a reduction gear and a long shaft not a two stroke.
Both
work fine.

M.

PS You want a ready to go boat or one that needs a bit of work?


"engsol" wrote in message
.. .
If this has been beat to death before, my apology.

I'm looking for a boat to enjoy upon retirement this May. Being poor,
I'll have to settle for an older boat, 30-32 feet. I've seen a number
of
boats
in my price range on my list, but have rejected the ones with an OB.
But
then I got to wondering...should I do so?

The advantage of an OB is cost, doesn't take up interior room, at least
semi-reliable these days. But then I wonder about enough power in a
seaway. The area I plan to sail (San Juan Islands) is quite
sheltered....
wind chop, but seldom any significant swells. A safe haven is rarely
more
than 4 - 5 hours away.

So what am I missing, or haven't thought of, as regards to OB power?

Thanks,
Norm

If you don't find anything by end of June send me an email. I'm heading out
to work on a freighter until then. I have a 26' Westerly Centaur which is
what I'll term an advanced project boat. I used her for three years and now
she's on the dry and does need some work. In my case I could have her back
sailing in three weeks. Except I bought the next size larger a Westerly
Berwick. The Centaur will be available in July when I get back with or
without the T9.9 Yamaha. Can you wire a 12 volt system? Can you finish off
a cabin interior. That's the bulk of it.

M.




"engsol" wrote in message
...
M,
Thanks for the advice. It's right in line with other good responses to my
query.
A light-weight OB might be OK as a backup, but I have to admit I like the
safety of diesel.

As to the boat condition, I'm willing to trade my sweat for a lower price.
As odd as it may sound,
(I can hear the old-timers groaning), I'm looking forward to working on my
boat and learning how
to repair and maintain her.

Have any leads or pointers?
Norm

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:34:41 -0800, "Michael"
wrote:

I use a Yamaha T9.9 four stroke on my 26' sloop. On the second boat 31'
LOD
I use an inboard diesel. Both out of PortTownsend. For the San Juans you
definitely need an engine but both will work. Inboard takes up inside
space
diesel is safer. Outboard gives you more internal room but gas is more
dangerous. Diesels last at least 10 times as long as outboards in terms
of
engine hours. If you go inboard use diesel not gas. If you go outboard
use
four stroke with a reduction gear and a long shaft not a two stroke.
Both
work fine.

M.

PS You want a ready to go boat or one that needs a bit of work?


"engsol" wrote in message
.. .
If this has been beat to death before, my apology.

I'm looking for a boat to enjoy upon retirement this May. Being poor,
I'll have to settle for an older boat, 30-32 feet. I've seen a number
of
boats
in my price range on my list, but have rejected the ones with an OB.
But
then I got to wondering...should I do so?

The advantage of an OB is cost, doesn't take up interior room, at least
semi-reliable these days. But then I wonder about enough power in a
seaway. The area I plan to sail (San Juan Islands) is quite
sheltered....
wind chop, but seldom any significant swells. A safe haven is rarely
more
than 4 - 5 hours away.

So what am I missing, or haven't thought of, as regards to OB power?

Thanks,
Norm

M,
Thanks for the advice. It's right in line with other good responses to my query.
A light-weight OB might be OK as a backup, but I have to admit I like the
safety of diesel.

As to the boat condition, I'm willing to trade my sweat for a lower price. As odd as it may sound,
(I can hear the old-timers groaning), I'm looking forward to working on my boat and learning how
to repair and maintain her.

Have any leads or pointers?
Norm

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:34:41 -0800, "Michael" wrote:

I use a Yamaha T9.9 four stroke on my 26' sloop. On the second boat 31' LOD
I use an inboard diesel. Both out of PortTownsend. For the San Juans you
definitely need an engine but both will work. Inboard takes up inside space
diesel is safer. Outboard gives you more internal room but gas is more
dangerous. Diesels last at least 10 times as long as outboards in terms of
engine hours. If you go inboard use diesel not gas. If you go outboard use
four stroke with a reduction gear and a long shaft not a two stroke. Both
work fine.

M.

PS You want a ready to go boat or one that needs a bit of work?


"engsol" wrote in message
.. .
If this has been beat to death before, my apology.

I'm looking for a boat to enjoy upon retirement this May. Being poor,
I'll have to settle for an older boat, 30-32 feet. I've seen a number of
boats
in my price range on my list, but have rejected the ones with an OB. But
then I got to wondering...should I do so?

The advantage of an OB is cost, doesn't take up interior room, at least
semi-reliable these days. But then I wonder about enough power in a
seaway. The area I plan to sail (San Juan Islands) is quite sheltered....
wind chop, but seldom any significant swells. A safe haven is rarely more
than 4 - 5 hours away.

So what am I missing, or haven't thought of, as regards to OB power?

Thanks,
Norm