Rosalie B. wrote:

Ed McDermott wrote:

I'm a Canadian planning to buy an American boat, but I'm
NOT planning to bring it back into Canada.


Where can I register it?

Why register it? Why not just document it in Canada?
Do you have to take it to Canada to do that?

If you are going to take it down to the Caribbean or something,
wouldn't documentation be better than registration anyway?

What means this "Documentation" as opposed to "Registration" ?

Can somebody please explain what these things are?

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Ante Topic Mimara ] wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:

Ed McDermott wrote:

I'm a Canadian planning to buy an American boat, but I'm
NOT planning to bring it back into Canada.


Where can I register it?

Why register it? Why not just document it in Canada?
Do you have to take it to Canada to do that?

If you are going to take it down to the Caribbean or something,
wouldn't documentation be better than registration anyway?

What means this "Documentation" as opposed to "Registration" ?

Can somebody please explain what these things are?

There are essentially two ways vessel ownership in the U.S. is done,
and I think it is similar in Canada:

Through State Registration including a title. State laws obviously
vary from state to state, but usually the state issues a number to a
boat which is displayed on the bow.

Through the Federal Documentation System - Documentation is the
federal registration of vessels (average of 27’ and over) with the
U.S. Coast Guard. Each vessel is assigned a number, which is
permanently displayed on an interior part of the hull. A certificate
is issued which identifies the owner. If a boat is documented it
doesn't usually have to display the registration numbers on the bow.
Documentation is recognized in international waters and can help ease
port clearances as the boat becomes a US entity. If you plan on doing
foreign cruising, including the Bahamas and the Caribbean, it is
recommended that you document the vessel. Since the CG documentation
system also records liens on the boat, the bank where you get your
loan usually requires that the boat be documented. I think there is
also a provision that in time of war, the CG or Navy can commandeer
the boat for use.



grandma Rosalie

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 03:44:16 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:

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Ante Topic Mimara ] wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:

Ed McDermott wrote:

I'm a Canadian planning to buy an American boat, but I'm
NOT planning to bring it back into Canada.


Where can I register it?

Why register it? Why not just document it in Canada?
Do you have to take it to Canada to do that?

If you are going to take it down to the Caribbean or something,
wouldn't documentation be better than registration anyway?

What means this "Documentation" as opposed to "Registration" ?

Can somebody please explain what these things are?

There are essentially two ways vessel ownership in the U.S. is done,
and I think it is similar in Canada:

Through State Registration including a title. State laws obviously
vary from state to state, but usually the state issues a number to a
boat which is displayed on the bow.

There is a small source of confusion here...

In Canada, "registration" is the more formal process, required of
larger vessels (over 20 register tons for pleasure boats, I think),
and is similar to the US "documentation".

The Canadian process that is vaguely similar to US state registration
is called "licensing" (but it is still a federal matter).

In Canada, we don't have any provincial paperwork or taxes regarding
boats (except sales tax on the initial purchase).

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Peter Bennett wrote:

In Canada, "registration" is the more formal process, required of
larger vessels (over 20 register tons for pleasure boats, I think),
and is similar to the US "documentation".

FYI, it is 15 register tons now.

Jean
Montreal, Qc

Peter Bennett wrote:

In Canada, "registration" is the more formal process, required of
larger vessels (over 20 register tons for pleasure boats, I think),
and is similar to the US "documentation".

FYI, it is 15 register tons now.

Jean
Montreal, Qc

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Peter Bennett wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 03:44:16 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:
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What means this "Documentation" as opposed to "Registration" ?

Can somebody please explain what these things are?

There are essentially two ways vessel ownership in the U.S. is done,
and I think it is similar in Canada:

Through State Registration including a title. State laws obviously
vary from state to state, but usually the state issues a number to a
boat which is displayed on the bow.

There is a small source of confusion here...

In Canada, "registration" is the more formal process, required of
larger vessels (over 20 register tons for pleasure boats, I think),
and is similar to the US "documentation".

The Canadian process that is vaguely similar to US state registration
is called "licensing" (but it is still a federal matter).

In Canada, we don't have any provincial paperwork or taxes regarding
boats (except sales tax on the initial purchase).

That's good to know. I didn't realize that.

Incidentally, I'm hiding this at the bottom of this thread, but in
the 8 hours last night I got 75 spam emails and that was a light
night. so for the first time in a long time, I've munged my reply to
address, so if you want to email me directly, you'll have to get my
actual address from a post sometime in 2003 or prior, and then wait
for me to OK the address.

You don't need to put in a request for me to do it - I go to the ISP
web site at least 3 times a day to check for real emails. But DO put
some subject in the subject line that will give me a clue that you are
a real person.


grandma Rosalie

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Peter Bennett wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 03:44:16 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:
snip
What means this "Documentation" as opposed to "Registration" ?

Can somebody please explain what these things are?

There are essentially two ways vessel ownership in the U.S. is done,
and I think it is similar in Canada:

Through State Registration including a title. State laws obviously
vary from state to state, but usually the state issues a number to a
boat which is displayed on the bow.

There is a small source of confusion here...

In Canada, "registration" is the more formal process, required of
larger vessels (over 20 register tons for pleasure boats, I think),
and is similar to the US "documentation".

The Canadian process that is vaguely similar to US state registration
is called "licensing" (but it is still a federal matter).

In Canada, we don't have any provincial paperwork or taxes regarding
boats (except sales tax on the initial purchase).

That's good to know. I didn't realize that.

Incidentally, I'm hiding this at the bottom of this thread, but in
the 8 hours last night I got 75 spam emails and that was a light
night. so for the first time in a long time, I've munged my reply to
address, so if you want to email me directly, you'll have to get my
actual address from a post sometime in 2003 or prior, and then wait
for me to OK the address.

You don't need to put in a request for me to do it - I go to the ISP
web site at least 3 times a day to check for real emails. But DO put
some subject in the subject line that will give me a clue that you are
a real person.


grandma Rosalie

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 03:44:16 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:

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Ante Topic Mimara ] wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:

Ed McDermott wrote:

I'm a Canadian planning to buy an American boat, but I'm
NOT planning to bring it back into Canada.


Where can I register it?

Why register it? Why not just document it in Canada?
Do you have to take it to Canada to do that?

If you are going to take it down to the Caribbean or something,
wouldn't documentation be better than registration anyway?

What means this "Documentation" as opposed to "Registration" ?

Can somebody please explain what these things are?

There are essentially two ways vessel ownership in the U.S. is done,
and I think it is similar in Canada:

Through State Registration including a title. State laws obviously
vary from state to state, but usually the state issues a number to a
boat which is displayed on the bow.

There is a small source of confusion here...

In Canada, "registration" is the more formal process, required of
larger vessels (over 20 register tons for pleasure boats, I think),
and is similar to the US "documentation".

The Canadian process that is vaguely similar to US state registration
is called "licensing" (but it is still a federal matter).

In Canada, we don't have any provincial paperwork or taxes regarding
boats (except sales tax on the initial purchase).

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb (at) interchange.ubc.ca
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

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Ante Topic Mimara ] wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:

Ed McDermott wrote:

I'm a Canadian planning to buy an American boat, but I'm
NOT planning to bring it back into Canada.


Where can I register it?

Why register it? Why not just document it in Canada?
Do you have to take it to Canada to do that?

If you are going to take it down to the Caribbean or something,
wouldn't documentation be better than registration anyway?

What means this "Documentation" as opposed to "Registration" ?

Can somebody please explain what these things are?

There are essentially two ways vessel ownership in the U.S. is done,
and I think it is similar in Canada:

Through State Registration including a title. State laws obviously
vary from state to state, but usually the state issues a number to a
boat which is displayed on the bow.

Through the Federal Documentation System - Documentation is the
federal registration of vessels (average of 27’ and over) with the
U.S. Coast Guard. Each vessel is assigned a number, which is
permanently displayed on an interior part of the hull. A certificate
is issued which identifies the owner. If a boat is documented it
doesn't usually have to display the registration numbers on the bow.
Documentation is recognized in international waters and can help ease
port clearances as the boat becomes a US entity. If you plan on doing
foreign cruising, including the Bahamas and the Caribbean, it is
recommended that you document the vessel. Since the CG documentation
system also records liens on the boat, the bank where you get your
loan usually requires that the boat be documented. I think there is
also a provision that in time of war, the CG or Navy can commandeer
the boat for use.



grandma Rosalie

What means this "Documentation" as opposed to "Registration" ?

Can somebody please explain what these things are?

A document is similar to a certificate of title, (in a very broad sense), but
it is issued by the US Govt. rather than by a state government. It identifies
the vessel and is considered proof of ownership.

Registration is required by most states. It's a fee that is charged to boat
owners for keeping a vessel within the state, regardless of the state or
country where the title or document was issued. (Most states will allow several
months usage without registration to avoid discouraging cruisers and folks
wanting to patronize a repair yard). Registration is usually collected on an
annual basis. It can run from $10 to several thousand, depending on the vessel
and the state.

Most states require boats that have a state title to display a state ID number,
usually well forward on the hull. States cannot require a documented boat to
display ID numbers, but they can require the boat owner to affix a registration
sticker to the hull.