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It's fairly easy to prove that
tripod rigs are *stronger* than conventional rigs because of reduced
catenary forces


nope. and you don't know the meaning of the word "catenary".

a backstayless rig can indeed do the job under conditions for which the boat is
designed but it NOT stronger than convential rigs (of the same size and weigh)
and "catenary forces" have nothing to do with it.
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I know exactly what catenary means, you semi-illiterate dumb-ass.

Catenary forces are a classic problem in physics, where you have linear
forces in parallel with supporting cables. High tension wires are the
typical example.

When the wires are pulled to the point where they are nearly straight-- like
a forstay and backsay for instance-- the tangent of the incident angle
starts to approach infinity. That's why high tension lines and windward
shrouds are designed to sag, so that the catenary forces are kept within
reason.

Look that up in a college physics text, you high-school educated dip****.

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It's fairly easy to prove that
tripod rigs are *stronger* than conventional rigs because of reduced
catenary forces


nope. and you don't know the meaning of the word "catenary".

a backstayless rig can indeed do the job under conditions for which the

boat is
designed but it NOT stronger than convential rigs (of the same size and

weigh)
and "catenary forces" have nothing to do with it.



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I know exactly what catenary means, you semi-illiterate dumb-ass.

obviously not. see below.


Catenary forces are a classic problem in physics, where you have linear
forces in parallel with supporting cables. High tension wires are the
typical example.

When the wires are pulled to the point where they are nearly straight-- like
a forstay and backsay for instance-- the tangent of the incident angle
starts to approach infinity. That's why high tension lines and windward
shrouds are designed to sag, so that the catenary forces are kept within
reason.

Look that up in a college physics text, you high-school educated dip****.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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It's fairly easy to prove that
tripod rigs are *stronger* than conventional rigs because of reduced
catenary forces


nope. and you don't know the meaning of the word "catenary".

a backstayless rig can indeed do the job under conditions for which the

boat is
designed but it NOT stronger than convential rigs (of the same size and

weigh)
and "catenary forces" have nothing to do with it.











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I know exactly what catenary means, you semi-illiterate dumb-ass.

obviously not. see below.


Catenary forces are a classic problem in physics, where you have linear
forces in parallel with supporting cables. High tension wires are the
typical example.

When the wires are pulled to the point where they are nearly straight-- like
a forstay and backsay for instance-- the tangent of the incident angle
starts to approach infinity. That's why high tension lines and windward
shrouds are designed to sag, so that the catenary forces are kept within
reason.

Look that up in a college physics text, you high-school educated dip****.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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It's fairly easy to prove that
tripod rigs are *stronger* than conventional rigs because of reduced
catenary forces


nope. and you don't know the meaning of the word "catenary".

a backstayless rig can indeed do the job under conditions for which the

boat is
designed but it NOT stronger than convential rigs (of the same size and

weigh)
and "catenary forces" have nothing to do with it.











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I know exactly what catenary means, you semi-illiterate dumb-ass.

Catenary forces are a classic problem in physics, where you have linear
forces in parallel with supporting cables. High tension wires are the
typical example.

When the wires are pulled to the point where they are nearly straight-- like
a forstay and backsay for instance-- the tangent of the incident angle
starts to approach infinity. That's why high tension lines and windward
shrouds are designed to sag, so that the catenary forces are kept within
reason.

Look that up in a college physics text, you high-school educated dip****.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
It's fairly easy to prove that
tripod rigs are *stronger* than conventional rigs because of reduced
catenary forces


nope. and you don't know the meaning of the word "catenary".

a backstayless rig can indeed do the job under conditions for which the

boat is
designed but it NOT stronger than convential rigs (of the same size and

weigh)
and "catenary forces" have nothing to do with it.





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Default Sailing the Hunter 336 long distance

It's fairly easy to prove that
tripod rigs are *stronger* than conventional rigs because of reduced
catenary forces


nope. and you don't know the meaning of the word "catenary".

a backstayless rig can indeed do the job under conditions for which the boat is
designed but it NOT stronger than convential rigs (of the same size and weigh)
and "catenary forces" have nothing to do with it.
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Default Sailing the Hunter 336 long distance

I own a Hunter 336. They are fine as coastal cruisers, but aren't
really designed for offshore use.

That doesn't mean you can't take one offshore, people are sailing
around out there right now in leaky 24-footers. But I wouldn't take
mine any further than the occasional trek out into Block Island Sound.

That stuff about the thickness of the hull and the placement of the
stringers doesn't mean much to me. The cheapest fiberglass boat has
enough hull strength, fiberglass is tremendously strong compared to
its predecessor, wood.

But, this Hunter doesn't have a through-bolted hull and deck joint. It
isn't made to heel in a blow, there's too much freeboard. I don't
think that the deck fittings are adequately backed to stake your life
on them.

There are boats that cost the same, a little older probably, that
maybe aren't as cushy in port, that would do much better in a seaway.

And, the boat doesn't need a backstay. It's fairly easy to prove that
tripod rigs are *stronger* than conventional rigs because of reduced
catenary forces. However, I think that no-backstay rigs are a pain in
the ass and I'd never have one again.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Paul
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