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Wayne.B December 21st 07 01:00 AM

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On 20 Dec 2007 16:45:05 -0600, Dave wrote:

I believe they can then take you "downtown" to see about establishing
your identity.



You believe wrong. That would be an arrest.


No, that would be a "detention".

an arrest may not be made
without probable cause to believe you have committed a crime.


That's true but you may be "detained" for questioning. Your recourse
is to call a lawyer.




Stephen Trapani December 21st 07 01:15 AM

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Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:kwBaj.5462
:

Afghanistan was a place they could openly train and safely congregate
while they plan our demise. That, of course, has drastically changed.
Now all they can do there is hide in holes. They are unable to conduct
any operations there, they're lucky to be able to hang on to their
lives. No more safe haven.

Stephen



How did Middle East Terrorists, Afghan or otherwise, take down WTC bldg
7? Was Allah doing it for them, or was it thermate?

How did Middle East Terrorists, Afghan or otherwise, put the whole US
military machine inside the USA on STANDDOWN for a whole day while
Freemason Cheney was telling some underling, “The order still stands.”

How did Middle East Terrorists, who couldn’t fly a Cessna for their
flight instructors, fly a fully-loaded airliner around a 270 degree turn
and through a 16’ hole in the UNINHABITED part of the Pentagon? If you
were flying that mission, wouldn’t you try to fly right into THE JOINT
CHIEFS OF STAFF OFFICES on the side of the building YOU WERE ALREADY
COMING IN TOWARDS?....killing as many top Freemasons and
Generals/Admirals as possible?

Bull****.....pure bull****.


Mind control aliens took over and bent everyone to their devilish alien
scheme?

Stephen

Stephen Trapani December 21st 07 01:19 AM

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Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:YtBaj.5461
:

I'm curious as to who
you think the targets should be.


The Freemasons who attacked us....and took the entire US military machine
offline for the day they did it.

Hours and hours and not one goddamned jet shot any airliner down.....except
Flight 93 in PA because the passengers cellphoned home to tell their
families they were about to TAKE BACK THE AIRPLANE and blow the lid off
this puppy!



Shoot, I was close!

Stephen

cavelamb himself[_4_] December 21st 07 01:59 AM

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Mind control aliens took over and bent everyone to their devilish alien
scheme?



Whould you two grow up?

Please?

Richard Casady December 21st 07 02:12 AM

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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:59:24 -0600, cavelamb himself
wrote:


Mind control aliens took over and bent everyone to their devilish alien
scheme?



Whould you two grow up?

Please?


You also noticed that it is past time for this thread to die.

Casady

Wayne.B December 21st 07 03:26 AM

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On 20 Dec 2007 20:22:01 -0600, Dave wrote:


That's true but you may be "detained" for questioning. Your recourse
is to call a lawyer.


Best stick to fields you know, Wayne.


As always I defer to your wise counsel.

Please enlighten us as you criticize. I don't have any experience at
all with being detained for questioning but it's my understanding that
it happens: suspicion of probable cause, person of interest, possible
material witness, etc.


Edgar December 21st 07 02:06 PM

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"Justin C" wrote in message
...
In article , Larry wrote:

Hmm...standing on the dock full of for sale signs....prices plummeting
hard
on used boats....six pack or coastal master's license in your pocket.....

Is there a downside to this if you're not a broker or dealer??

Larry


I'll be in the market for a boat soon. Am very tempted to cross to
America (from the UK) to make a purchase... it's just a damn long way
between boats I like the look of! ... the savings could cover the
internal flights and car-hire though.

Justin.


Why go there? Do it all on line and keep the savings for yourself.. You can
download particulars of lots of similar boats and then choose. Get lots of
pictures and, when you have decided on one, get an independent survey to
make sure she is Ok.
.. BUT, do not forget that you will have to get her EU certified so that she
comes with EU documentation and a CE mark or the Customs will not release
her on arrival in UK. This last requirement is the only real pita in the
whole affair, because it is pure unnecessary bureaucracy.
Been there, done all that and never set eyes on my beautiful boat until she
was unloaded over here.
The only requirement is that you have to know enough about the type of boat
you are buying and/or its designer and builder to do without personal
inspection and sea trial.



Wayne.B December 21st 07 04:29 PM

Coast Guard Licensing of Recreational Boaters
 
On 20 Dec 2007 20:22:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

I believe they can then take you "downtown" to see about establishing
your identity.


You believe wrong. That would be an arrest.


No, that would be a "detention".

an arrest may not be made
without probable cause to believe you have committed a crime.


That's true but you may be "detained" for questioning. Your recourse
is to call a lawyer.


Best stick to fields you know, Wayne.


Here's some advice from people who know:

http://www.jkrlaw.com/video/police-detentions.html




Justin C[_6_] December 21st 07 05:56 PM

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In article , Edgar wrote:

"Justin C" wrote in message
...
In article , Larry wrote:

Hmm...standing on the dock full of for sale signs....prices plummeting
hard
on used boats....six pack or coastal master's license in your pocket.....

Is there a downside to this if you're not a broker or dealer??

Larry


I'll be in the market for a boat soon. Am very tempted to cross to
America (from the UK) to make a purchase... it's just a damn long way
between boats I like the look of! ... the savings could cover the
internal flights and car-hire though.

Justin.


Why go there? Do it all on line and keep the savings for yourself.. You can
download particulars of lots of similar boats and then choose. Get lots of
pictures and, when you have decided on one, get an independent survey to
make sure she is Ok.
. BUT, do not forget that you will have to get her EU certified so that she
comes with EU documentation and a CE mark or the Customs will not release
her on arrival in UK. This last requirement is the only real pita in the
whole affair, because it is pure unnecessary bureaucracy.
Been there, done all that and never set eyes on my beautiful boat until she
was unloaded over here.
The only requirement is that you have to know enough about the type of boat
you are buying and/or its designer and builder to do without personal
inspection and sea trial.


Couldn't I just sail it back 'under their radar' ?

What sort of cost could I expect to get it certified? Any web-sites you
can recommend with details of the legislation?

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Wayne.B December 21st 07 06:21 PM

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On 21 Dec 2007 11:29:03 -0600, Dave wrote:

if you don't think you can decline
the proffered hospitality, then you've been arrested.


If there is any doubt, you should ask. If you are not under arrest
you should decline to be detained until you get legal counsel.



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