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Friend of mine wants to replace his furler and has been thinking of the CDI F9.
The rigging company he plans to use has discouraged him about this product,
stating "you get what you pay for" indicating that CDI does not make a quality
product. They also stated that it takes a lot of hours to install as they have
to lay out the plastic foil and get the "set" out it from being curled in
shipment.

Anyone out there with a CDI furler care to comment on the quality of this
product and its ease, or lack of thereof, of installation?
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Yes indeed I have a comment.

No, no, no

I bought CDI furling. The foil comes rolled up. After unrolling, it spent 3
weeks fastened in a straight line on the dock so that "The sun can warm it"

It was still like a snake. The manufacturer's advice was to get it mounted
on the forestay and it would straighten out quickly.
Three more weeks, lots amusing comments from passers-by, the thing was still
twisted.

It went back to the dealer who ordered a replacement. This time the dealer
would unroll it to make sure it was done properly! He had the new one on
his floor for two weeks and that one was also like a snake.

It all went back to CDI, I bought Harken and lived happy ever after.

For what it was, the CDI was grossly overpriced. It was crudely made and
had no bearings.

The Harken was not a lot more expensive.

Henry


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DSK
 
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Baybyter wrote:

Friend of mine wants to replace his furler and has been thinking of the CDI
F9.


That's their biggest one, isn't it?


The rigging company he plans to use has discouraged him about this product,
stating "you get what you pay for" indicating that CDI does not make a quality

product. They also stated that it takes a lot of hours to install as they
have
to lay out the plastic foil and get the "set" out it from being curled in
shipment.

Anyone out there with a CDI furler care to comment on the quality of this
product and its ease, or lack of thereof, of installation?


We have one of their smaller units and have used it for about nine years. It's
great.

Henry wrote:

Yes indeed I have a comment.

No, no, no

I bought CDI furling. The foil comes rolled up. After unrolling, it spent 3
weeks fastened in a straight line on the dock so that "The sun can warm it"

It was still like a snake. The manufacturer's advice was to get it mounted
on the forestay and it would straighten out quickly.
Three more weeks, lots amusing comments from passers-by, the thing was still
twisted.


We took ours and reversed the coil for a short while (couple days) and then
stretched it out straight. It's still not perfect, but it's close enough to not
cause any comment.



It went back to the dealer who ordered a replacement. This time the dealer
would unroll it to make sure it was done properly! He had the new one on
his floor for two weeks and that one was also like a snake.

It all went back to CDI, I bought Harken and lived happy ever after.

For what it was, the CDI was grossly overpriced. It was crudely made and
had no bearings.


But it's the cheapest one on the market. I think this is why a lot of people buy
it. The lack of bearings is one reason why, as much as I like ours, I'd hesitate
to recomment one for a bigger boat.

At least they stand behind their guarantee. Seems like a lot of comapnies lately
don't.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


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I have owned Flexible Furlers on 2 boats. A Pearson 26 and presently a
Westerly 32. The P26 was sailed from the Hudson River thru the Great
Lakes to Lake Superior. More than once in Force 7-8 winds and held up
admirably. The new Westerly has sailed from the Hudson to Nova Scotia
and Cape Breton for the last 3 years. Most of the trip is offshore and
again the CDI has yet to let us down. I have raced and sailed on many
other boats and have seen more failures of "so-called" high end
furlers than all the CDI units I have come across. Yes there can be
problems with any companies furler. Riggers have to spend a lot more
time rigging a Harken, Schaefer etc furler than a CDI. Maybe just
maybe they feel that they can make more money on high tech unit and
that is why they shy away from the CDI.
If you have a boat under 32 foot YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED!!!
Go out and buy and go sailing.
Cheers Douglas Nikkila


DSK wrote in message ...
Baybyter wrote:

Friend of mine wants to replace his furler and has been thinking of the CDI
F9.


That's their biggest one, isn't it?


The rigging company he plans to use has discouraged him about this product,
stating "you get what you pay for" indicating that CDI does not make a quality

product. They also stated that it takes a lot of hours to install as they
have
to lay out the plastic foil and get the "set" out it from being curled in
shipment.

Anyone out there with a CDI furler care to comment on the quality of this
product and its ease, or lack of thereof, of installation?


We have one of their smaller units and have used it for about nine years. It's
great.

Henry wrote:

Yes indeed I have a comment.

No, no, no

I bought CDI furling. The foil comes rolled up. After unrolling, it spent 3
weeks fastened in a straight line on the dock so that "The sun can warm it"

It was still like a snake. The manufacturer's advice was to get it mounted
on the forestay and it would straighten out quickly.
Three more weeks, lots amusing comments from passers-by, the thing was still
twisted.


We took ours and reversed the coil for a short while (couple days) and then
stretched it out straight. It's still not perfect, but it's close enough to not
cause any comment.



It went back to the dealer who ordered a replacement. This time the dealer
would unroll it to make sure it was done properly! He had the new one on
his floor for two weeks and that one was also like a snake.

It all went back to CDI, I bought Harken and lived happy ever after.

For what it was, the CDI was grossly overpriced. It was crudely made and
had no bearings.


But it's the cheapest one on the market. I think this is why a lot of people buy
it. The lack of bearings is one reason why, as much as I like ours, I'd hesitate
to recomment one for a bigger boat.

At least they stand behind their guarantee. Seems like a lot of comapnies lately
don't.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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I have owned Flexible Furlers on 2 boats. A Pearson 26 and presently a
Westerly 32. The P26 was sailed from the Hudson River thru the Great
Lakes to Lake Superior. More than once in Force 7-8 winds and held up
admirably. The new Westerly has sailed from the Hudson to Nova Scotia
and Cape Breton for the last 3 years. Most of the trip is offshore and
again the CDI has yet to let us down. I have raced and sailed on many
other boats and have seen more failures of "so-called" high end
furlers than all the CDI units I have come across. Yes there can be
problems with any companies furler. Riggers have to spend a lot more
time rigging a Harken, Schaefer etc furler than a CDI. Maybe just
maybe they feel that they can make more money on high tech unit and
that is why they shy away from the CDI.
If you have a boat under 32 foot YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED!!!
Go out and buy and go sailing.
Cheers Douglas Nikkila


DSK wrote in message ...
Baybyter wrote:

Friend of mine wants to replace his furler and has been thinking of the CDI
F9.


That's their biggest one, isn't it?


The rigging company he plans to use has discouraged him about this product,
stating "you get what you pay for" indicating that CDI does not make a quality

product. They also stated that it takes a lot of hours to install as they
have
to lay out the plastic foil and get the "set" out it from being curled in
shipment.

Anyone out there with a CDI furler care to comment on the quality of this
product and its ease, or lack of thereof, of installation?


We have one of their smaller units and have used it for about nine years. It's
great.

Henry wrote:

Yes indeed I have a comment.

No, no, no

I bought CDI furling. The foil comes rolled up. After unrolling, it spent 3
weeks fastened in a straight line on the dock so that "The sun can warm it"

It was still like a snake. The manufacturer's advice was to get it mounted
on the forestay and it would straighten out quickly.
Three more weeks, lots amusing comments from passers-by, the thing was still
twisted.


We took ours and reversed the coil for a short while (couple days) and then
stretched it out straight. It's still not perfect, but it's close enough to not
cause any comment.



It went back to the dealer who ordered a replacement. This time the dealer
would unroll it to make sure it was done properly! He had the new one on
his floor for two weeks and that one was also like a snake.

It all went back to CDI, I bought Harken and lived happy ever after.

For what it was, the CDI was grossly overpriced. It was crudely made and
had no bearings.


But it's the cheapest one on the market. I think this is why a lot of people buy
it. The lack of bearings is one reason why, as much as I like ours, I'd hesitate
to recomment one for a bigger boat.

At least they stand behind their guarantee. Seems like a lot of comapnies lately
don't.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



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Baybyter wrote:

Friend of mine wants to replace his furler and has been thinking of the CDI
F9.


That's their biggest one, isn't it?


The rigging company he plans to use has discouraged him about this product,
stating "you get what you pay for" indicating that CDI does not make a quality

product. They also stated that it takes a lot of hours to install as they
have
to lay out the plastic foil and get the "set" out it from being curled in
shipment.

Anyone out there with a CDI furler care to comment on the quality of this
product and its ease, or lack of thereof, of installation?


We have one of their smaller units and have used it for about nine years. It's
great.

Henry wrote:

Yes indeed I have a comment.

No, no, no

I bought CDI furling. The foil comes rolled up. After unrolling, it spent 3
weeks fastened in a straight line on the dock so that "The sun can warm it"

It was still like a snake. The manufacturer's advice was to get it mounted
on the forestay and it would straighten out quickly.
Three more weeks, lots amusing comments from passers-by, the thing was still
twisted.


We took ours and reversed the coil for a short while (couple days) and then
stretched it out straight. It's still not perfect, but it's close enough to not
cause any comment.



It went back to the dealer who ordered a replacement. This time the dealer
would unroll it to make sure it was done properly! He had the new one on
his floor for two weeks and that one was also like a snake.

It all went back to CDI, I bought Harken and lived happy ever after.

For what it was, the CDI was grossly overpriced. It was crudely made and
had no bearings.


But it's the cheapest one on the market. I think this is why a lot of people buy
it. The lack of bearings is one reason why, as much as I like ours, I'd hesitate
to recomment one for a bigger boat.

At least they stand behind their guarantee. Seems like a lot of comapnies lately
don't.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


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"Henry" wrote in message news:atdOb.147373$X%5.128760@pd7tw2no...
Yes indeed I have a comment.

No, no, no

I bought CDI furling. The foil comes rolled up. After unrolling, it spent 3
weeks fastened in a straight line on the dock so that "The sun can warm it"

It was still like a snake. The manufacturer's advice was to get it mounted
on the forestay and it would straighten out quickly.
Three more weeks, lots amusing comments from passers-by, the thing was still
twisted.

It went back to the dealer who ordered a replacement. This time the dealer
would unroll it to make sure it was done properly! He had the new one on
his floor for two weeks and that one was also like a snake.

It all went back to CDI, I bought Harken and lived happy ever after.

For what it was, the CDI was grossly overpriced. It was crudely made and
had no bearings.

The Harken was not a lot more expensive.

Henry




I also bought a CDI furler and uncoiled the foil without problem. I
then coiled it up again, then uncoiled it again and coiled it again
(dont' ask why). The trick in all this was to coil it a little at a
time and use the fibreglass strapping tape. It does want to recoil
itself but this isn't a real problem. No problem getting it on the
forestay either. The bearings are a strongly reccomended option, I
got them. It works very well. I have taken it off again to do work
on the mast. No problem.
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If you think you've got problems with 'squirrelly' furler foil.. Try dealing
with -22 (3/8"dia) rod rigging after it's been in a 6 ft dia coil..

The rigging loft has special machine just to straighten it out, but then how
to transport it to the boat once the fittings are installed and the ends are
headed. Gotta coil it back up again..

The worst problem is with the slight bend at the ends. You need to keep
considerable over tension on the rigging for months to get it to straighten
out.. Vary hard on attachment fittins and mast step. I'm still not satisfied
with the sight curve at the ends. Hopefully they it will straighten under
load cycling..

Steve
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"Henry" wrote in message news:atdOb.147373$X%5.128760@pd7tw2no...
Yes indeed I have a comment.

No, no, no

I bought CDI furling. The foil comes rolled up. After unrolling, it spent 3
weeks fastened in a straight line on the dock so that "The sun can warm it"

It was still like a snake. The manufacturer's advice was to get it mounted
on the forestay and it would straighten out quickly.
Three more weeks, lots amusing comments from passers-by, the thing was still
twisted.

It went back to the dealer who ordered a replacement. This time the dealer
would unroll it to make sure it was done properly! He had the new one on
his floor for two weeks and that one was also like a snake.

It all went back to CDI, I bought Harken and lived happy ever after.

For what it was, the CDI was grossly overpriced. It was crudely made and
had no bearings.

The Harken was not a lot more expensive.

Henry




I also bought a CDI furler and uncoiled the foil without problem. I
then coiled it up again, then uncoiled it again and coiled it again
(dont' ask why). The trick in all this was to coil it a little at a
time and use the fibreglass strapping tape. It does want to recoil
itself but this isn't a real problem. No problem getting it on the
forestay either. The bearings are a strongly reccomended option, I
got them. It works very well. I have taken it off again to do work
on the mast. No problem.
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If you think you've got problems with 'squirrelly' furler foil.. Try dealing
with -22 (3/8"dia) rod rigging after it's been in a 6 ft dia coil..

The rigging loft has special machine just to straighten it out, but then how
to transport it to the boat once the fittings are installed and the ends are
headed. Gotta coil it back up again..

The worst problem is with the slight bend at the ends. You need to keep
considerable over tension on the rigging for months to get it to straighten
out.. Vary hard on attachment fittins and mast step. I'm still not satisfied
with the sight curve at the ends. Hopefully they it will straighten under
load cycling..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




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