dead engines, kayaks, and powerboaters
 

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:31:16 -0500, Bloody Horvath wrote:

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:08:06 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:


Capt JG was in a 32 ft, seaworthy, ocean going sailboat, in open


Who said it was seaworthy? :-) Certainly it isn't ocean capable.


Are you nuts? A 32 ft. Hunter is certainly ocean capable.

yes it is amazing how much tupperware has improved since it was first sold

I used to take my 25 ft. Hunter out in storm warnings, where you would
**** your pants. I was once out in 60 mph winds. The boat loved it, even
if the crew didn't.

of course you did...I'll bet you even had a special nook built into the
lazarette to stow the wheelbarrow you had to use to get your gigantic
balls aboard too...yawn....

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:08:57 -0500, "Leanne" wrote:

Wait until one of these clowns rolls you beam ends and see happy you are.
They know what they are doing when they will not even turn around on the
bridge while I was sounding shorts blasts of the air horns.

Some people roll me, and some get rolled by me. It's part of boating
and being on the water. I am constantly amazed at the hue and cry
raised by large seaworthy sailboats when they encounter a wake. It is
not written in stone anywhere that the water will always be flat.

Spoken like a true powerboater. While that may make sense to you,
sailors can generally say, "I get rolled often by irresponsible
powerboaters, and I've never rolled anyone."

FWIW, since I got my catamaran, I haven't been bothered much by wakes -
in fact on the ICW I frequently told following PB's to come through at
full throttle because the wake doesn't affect me. However, on numerous
occasions I've been blasted by large wakes - over three feet - from
sport fisherman doing 20+ knots in a no wake zone. When you're on a
smaller boat, this can be dangerous.

A few days ago, someone from my winter marina was going through (almost
empty) Boston Harbor and got stopped by the State Police for a large
wake. Where are they in the Summer when its actually a problem!

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

Why are you stalking me?

I'm not going to respond to a sockpuppet beyond this post...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




What is your definition of stalking? Why the ad hominen attack?

Your story portays you as the victim of a powerboater, faulty engine
maintenance (not done by you) and then some kayakers. We hear of your engine
blowing steam, leaking oil, not operable, people in emminent danger and so
on. Someone simply questions the story on nautical and psychological terms
and now you paranoidinally accusing them of stalking you and acting
incognito. Now you're saying the whole thing was no emergency, nothing was
wrong, blah, blah, blah when it is suggested, in part, that most victims are
volunteers. Can you ever find fault in yourself, even if it is just a
smidgeon? Do you find it impossible to apologize? If you admit your own
weaknesses you can work on improving them. Once one reads several of your
posts they realize your attitude is "my way or the highway", that you are
never at fault and somehow the world is out to get you. Such rigid thinking
is only self fullfilling and makes your world a very unpleasant place.

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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:19:42 -0500, jeff wrote:

Spoken like a true powerboater. While that may make sense to you,
sailors can generally say, "I get rolled often by irresponsible
powerboaters, and I've never rolled anyone."

The problem is that many sailors think that all powerboaters leaving a
wake are irresponsible just because the wake inconveniences them in
some way, and don't even get me started on sailboats who expect the
right-of-way while under power, or who suddenly tack in front of a
moving powerboat and demand the right-of-way. Fortunately most of
them seem to understand that five blasts on the air horn is a danger
signal. My other pet peeve is sailboats who don't know how to analyze
a crossing situation, not realizing that I've already altered course
to pass astern of them.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:08:34 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

Am convinced that for the most part, to qualify to
receive the keys to
a power vessel, you must certify you only have 2 brain
cells, of which
at least one must be dead.

Now wait just a minute here.

Capt JG was in a 32 ft, seaworthy, ocean going sailboat,
in open
water. Why should he be concerned about a 2 or 3 ft wake?
Let's get
real. A wake is a wave by any other name. If you are
worried about
small waves in a 32 ft sailboat better to stay home.
Power boats
leave wakes (waves). It's a fact and has nothing to do
with brain
cells, moral fiber or any other personal characteristic.

Is this the attitude of most powerboaters?

It would explain a lot of the poor seamanship displayed by
some.

BTW you *ARE* responsible for your wake.

SBV

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:08:57 -0500, "Leanne"
wrote:

Wait until one of these clowns rolls you beam ends and
see happy you are.
They know what they are doing when they will not even
turn around on the
bridge while I was sounding shorts blasts of the air
horns.

Some people roll me, and some get rolled by me.


You *ARE* responsible for your wake!


It's part of boating and being on the water.

It's a part of BAD boating, and being on the water with
ignorant, arrogant power boaters.



I am constantly amazed at the hue and cry
raised by large seaworthy sailboats when they encounter a
wake.


I am not amazed anymore when I see an idiot wake a small
boat. Sadly, it happens all too often.



It is
not written in stone anywhere that the water will always
be flat.


It *IS* written in the books that YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
YOUR WAKE !

SBV

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:19:42 -0500, jeff
wrote:

Spoken like a true powerboater. While that may make
sense to you,
sailors can generally say, "I get rolled often by
irresponsible
powerboaters, and I've never rolled anyone."

The problem is that many sailors think that all
powerboaters leaving a
wake are irresponsible just because the wake
inconveniences them in
some way, and don't even get me started on sailboats who
expect the
right-of-way while under power, or who suddenly tack in
front of a
moving powerboat and demand the right-of-way.


Yes, it must be so difficult for you to turn that wheel a
bit. Do you have limp wrists?


Fortunately most of
them seem to understand that five blasts on the air horn
is a danger
signal.

Oh brother, I've seen this type before, blasting through a
crowd of boats, air horns and all.

SBV

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:19:42 -0500, jeff wrote:

Spoken like a true powerboater. While that may make sense to you,
sailors can generally say, "I get rolled often by irresponsible
powerboaters, and I've never rolled anyone."

The problem is that many sailors think that all powerboaters leaving a
wake are irresponsible just because the wake inconveniences them in
some way, and don't even get me started on sailboats who expect the
right-of-way while under power, or who suddenly tack in front of a
moving powerboat and demand the right-of-way. Fortunately most of
them seem to understand that five blasts on the air horn is a danger
signal. My other pet peeve is sailboats who don't know how to analyze
a crossing situation, not realizing that I've already altered course
to pass astern of them.


Perhaps you aren't changing course dramatically enough for them to figure it
out....

In any case, there's no excuse for being ignorant of the rules. I've never
seen a sailboat "suddenly" tack in front of a powerboat. I have seen and
been on sailboats that were tacking back and forth down a channel and having
the PBer expect them to get out of the way.

You are responsible for your wake... PBer or sailor.

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www.sailnow.com

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"mr.b" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:31:16 -0500, Bloody Horvath wrote:

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:08:06 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:


Capt JG was in a 32 ft, seaworthy, ocean going sailboat, in open


Who said it was seaworthy? :-) Certainly it isn't ocean capable.


Are you nuts? A 32 ft. Hunter is certainly ocean capable.

yes it is amazing how much tupperware has improved since it was first sold

I used to take my 25 ft. Hunter out in storm warnings, where you would
**** your pants. I was once out in 60 mph winds. The boat loved it,
even
if the crew didn't.

of course you did...I'll bet you even had a special nook built into the
lazarette to stow the wheelbarrow you had to use to get your gigantic
balls aboard too...yawn....


I sure as shootin wouldn't take these Hunters out the Gate unless the
conditions were benign... they're not off-shore capable.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:35:55 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

The problem is that many sailors think that all powerboaters leaving a
wake are irresponsible just because the wake inconveniences them in some
waysnip

I'd like to invite you to stand in my cockpit sometime and get acquainted
with the business end of my boom when one of your powerboatin' pals comes
by...