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Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote:

I believe that aircraft carriers have the biggest wakes. What with
300
000 HP. Freighters, and tankers only come in HP under 100 000, all
single screw diesels, although many are bigger than a flattop. A
submarine at full power on the surface will also move lots of water.

Can't comment on any of the above; however, the bow wave generated by
a 1,000 ft ore boat, loaded out at 60,000 tons of iron ore, can be
felt for miles.

One of the reasons these boats travel in the middle of the lake.

Huh? I live at junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario, (just
east of Carlton Island on Wolfe Island if want to check it out), I can
assure you that they travel pretty damn close to the shore here!

Cheers
Marty

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Mike wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:27:19 -0500, "Mike" wrote:

What about illegal hallucinogenic drugs? I'm assuming that you approve of
them?
Where did that come from? Nowhere in this discussion has anyone
expressed approval of doing any mood altering substance. Even legal
ones. Mentioning that a drunk went to prison for killing someone is
expressing approval of exactly what?

Casady

Old Ganzey's kind of touchy on the subject of illegal hallucinogenic drugs.
He used them and posted on usenet all about it. Then he lied on his
application to the Coast Guard when he took the Captain's test. He still
has flashbacks, as you can see from some of his posts.



And you're just a piece of hypocritical slime sucking whale ****.

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On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:55:54 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

Nonsense. Have you ever seen the wake from a freighter or fast tug
boat? If so you'll never complain about sportfish or motoryachts.

I believe that aircraft carriers have the biggest wakes. What with 300
000 HP. Freighters, and tankers only come in HP under 100 000, all
single screw diesels, although many are bigger than a flattop. A
submarine at full power on the surface will also move lots of water.

One of the biggest wakes I've ever seen was from a submarine on the
surface near the eastern end of Long Island Sound. Probably the
second biggest was from a tugboat trying to get somewhere in a hurry.
His wake was still breaking several miles away.

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"Marty" wrote:

Huh? I live at junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario, (just
east of Carlton Island on Wolfe Island if want to check it out), I
can
assure you that they travel pretty damn close to the shore here!

Those are "Salties", AKA: Baby boats.

1,000 ft ore boats never see L Ontario.

From what I remember, there are/were no steel mills along the St
Lawrence.


Lew

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On 2007-12-06 11:47:45 -0500, (Richard
Casady) said:

We've found that even with the fresh water closed off, we have about 5
minutes' run-time at cruise power (about 2200 rpm) before the high-temp
alarm sounds -- quite a bit further than 200 meters. We used that
reserve once about a decade ago, so I know it exists.

What do you mean by fresh water. My [22 ft sterndrive] is cooled by
glycol and has a heat exchanger. If I am floating in salt water, there
is no fresh water involved anywhere.

You're right. I meant to say "raw (salt)" valve. It takes about 5
minutes at moderate power to bring the water recycling in the engine
loop up to to a temp that sounds the alarm.

One thing is certain, unless the pump is managing to circulate coolant
through the engine, it won't last anything like five minutes. The
difference between driving with a broken fan belt, and driving with no
coolant.

True, but I wasn't talking about that, just lack of raw cooling water.
If the fan belt breaks, we have a few other problems.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:13:59 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Marty" wrote:

Huh? I live at junction of the St. Lawrence and Lake Ontario, (just
east of Carlton Island on Wolfe Island if want to check it out), I
can
assure you that they travel pretty damn close to the shore here!

Those are "Salties", AKA: Baby boats.

1,000 ft ore boats never see L Ontario.

From what I remember, there are/were no steel mills along the St
Lawrence.

Last time I checked there were 29 lakers that were too big to get out
of the lakes. As for the steel mills the big bulk carriers also haul
coal and stone. There is a market for the coal and stone where there
are no steel mills although the steel mills do use both.

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"Marty" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:27:19 -0500, "Mike" wrote:

What about illegal hallucinogenic drugs? I'm assuming that you approve
of
them?
Where did that come from? Nowhere in this discussion has anyone
expressed approval of doing any mood altering substance. Even legal
ones. Mentioning that a drunk went to prison for killing someone is
expressing approval of exactly what?

Casady

stalker stuff deleted


And you're just a piece of hypocritical slime sucking whale ****.


True, but he doesn't need to be reminded I'm sure!

--
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www.sailnow.com

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"Richard Casady" wrote:

Last time I checked there were 29 lakers that were too big to get
out
of the lakes. As for the steel mills the big bulk carriers also haul
coal and stone. There is a market for the coal and stone where there
are no steel mills although the steel mills do use both.

The 1,000 ft one are strictly ore boats, which were only a wet dream
until the Eisenhower locks were built at the "Sue" in the late 50s.

The Canadians haul most of the stone and coal using old (small) boats
purchased from US fleets.

Can't think of anyplace along Ontario or St Lawrence that has a use
for either stone or coal.

Alcoa at Massinas/p might use some coal.

Lew

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:42:19 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

Can't think of anyplace along Ontario or St Lawrence that has a use
for either stone or coal.

If you can get it out of the lakes, you can ship the stuff anywhere. I
suppose you wouldn't want to take a self-unloader on the high seas.
You can, however, sell coal and stone anywhere. I could use some of
the stone myself. For the driveway.

Casady

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On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:42:19 -0800, Lew Hodgett wrote:


"Richard Casady" wrote:

Last time I checked there were 29 lakers that were too big to get
out
of the lakes. As for the steel mills the big bulk carriers also haul
coal and stone. There is a market for the coal and stone where there are
no steel mills although the steel mills do use both.

The 1,000 ft one are strictly ore boats, which were only a wet dream until
the Eisenhower locks were built at the "Sue" in the late 50s.

it's spelled the "Soo" and the 1000 footers weren't built until the 60's.
I think the "Cort" was the first...

The Canadians haul most of the stone and coal using old (small) boats
purchased from US fleets.

Can't think of anyplace along Ontario or St Lawrence that has a use for
either stone or coal.

Hamilton, ON...home of Stelco or is it now Dofasco? making _lots_ of
steel...they use a little coal there ;-)

Alcoa at Massinas/p might use some coal.

hmmm...Aluminum requires _HUGE_ quantities of electricity, plants are
usually built right next to generating facilities...I hope they aren't
burning coal to produce the electricity for aluminum smelting!!?!