On Oct 4, 2:12 pm, Bob wrote:
On Oct 4, 10:36 am, Joe wrote:

This is a picture of the Destiny's wheelhouse and my lovely wife.
She was standing at the chart table flew across the wheelhouse and hit
the radar in the picture.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/241...63212926kwotKu
Joe

Damn Joe, l Thats one hot coon ass bitch!

Yo asshole..she's from Ohio, and seldom a bitch.

Ugg, crewboat rides! Can still remember that pack of 12V71 screamin
below and the pounding rides. But having her along would make up for
it.


She pulls her weight, got her 100 tonn back in the late 80's. She can
push barges, walk crewboats and sail ships. Not your average sailor.

I worked out of Morgan City and lived in Patterson in the way early
80s. Were you sitting on the next bar stool in Gro Johns? or how ever
it was spelled.

I worked for State Boat in the early 80's based in Patterson. Point
Marine, Co-Mar, Bruce Boats, all out of Morgan City. I tried to stay
out of both towns, as they were full of idiots that would say
something like "Damn Joe, l Thats one hot coon ass bitch!" while
picking their nose and wiping it on their Carhart bibs....;0)

Joe

Bob

On Oct 4, 1:23 pm, Joe wrote:

I worked out of Morgan City and lived in Patterson in the way early
80s. Were you sitting on the next bar stool in Gro Johns? or how ever
it was spelled.

I worked for State Boat in the early 80's based in Patterson. Point
Marine, Co-Mar, Bruce Boats, all out of Morgan City. I tried to stay
out of both towns, as they were full of idiots that would say
something like "Damn Joe, l Thats one hot coon ass bitch!" while
picking their nose and wiping it on their Carhart bibs....;0)

Joe

Damn joe, nearly every crewboat operator down there I met was an
ignorant assole with a chip on his sholder, so i figured my word
choice was just about right. I appologize................ Wouldnt want
to have to squat and get in a ****ing match wit ya.
bob

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:34:09 -0400, Rosalie B.
wrote:

Are you saying it only takes 3 days to get to Bermuda?

55 foot boat, decent reaching conditions, no problem making it in less
than 4 days.

I have made it from Newport, RI in less than 3 days but that was on a
fully crewed racing boat.

On Oct 4, 7:13 pm, Bob wrote:
On Oct 4, 1:23 pm, Joe wrote:

I worked out of Morgan City and lived in Patterson in the way early
80s. Were you sitting on the next bar stool in Gro Johns? or how ever
it was spelled.

I worked for State Boat in the early 80's based in Patterson. Point
Marine, Co-Mar, Bruce Boats, all out of Morgan City. I tried to stay
out of both towns, as they were full of idiots that would say
something like "Damn Joe, l Thats one hot coon ass bitch!" while
picking their nose and wiping it on their Carhart bibs....;0)
Joe

Damn joe, nearly every crewboat operator down there I met was an
ignorant assole with a chip on his sholder,

I thought your name was Bob...not Chip. I take it you're another
****ed off rig hand that the Captain ordered out of the wheelhouse
huh?

so i figured my word
choice was just about right. I appologize...............

No problem Bob, most crewboat passengers were dumbass, light weight,
pansies with big mouths, that never get any..... so I kind'a expected
it.


.. Wouldnt want
to have to squat and get in a ****ing match wit ya.

You squat to **** Bob?

Joe


bob

On Oct 4, 6:32 pm, Joe wrote:
On Oct 4, 7:13 pm, Bob wrote:

No problem Bob, most crewboat passengers were dumbass, light weight,
pansies with big mouths, that never get any..... so I kind'a expected
it.

Wouldnt want to have to squat and get in a ****ing match wit ya.


You squat to **** Bob?
Joe

Hey Joe....

If youre truely interested in how a man takes a **** I suggest ya talk
to that repubilican Senator caught in that airport restroom. But since
ya ask me:

When sailing around home I usually just **** on the deck of the
cockpit. No since leaving my watch plus there is usually enough green
water to wash it out when the next swell passes.

RE the GOM. Nope wasnt a rig crew. When I worked in the oil patch I
usually just ****ed in my pants when I had to go. Really didnt make
much diffrence.

Since you seem so interested in how men **** i suggest ya ask some of
the men here. Im sure they can help ya out.
Bob

On 2007-10-03 23:14:05 -0400, Wayne.B said:

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:02:12 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

You know, I was about to say that I wouldn't hesitate to advise them
against it, but then reread and thought: We could be described
similarly though I'm considered fairly competent by those whose
opinions matter to me, the ones who have done it.

It really comes down to more than competence in my opinion. There are
intangibles that come only from experience, and those lessons are best
learned in small doses where the situation is less likely to spiral out
of control when (not if) things start to go wrong.

That was part of what I was saying. They *could* have sufficient
experience in dealing with these things from many days out.

Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in
blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected
water with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing
25 to 30 kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued
and the gear is severely tested.

Other than the length of time, that's psychological with a properly
prepared yacht and crew. I'd far rather tackle 25+ knots in deep water
than on the Chesapeake, where that's *ALWAYS* ugly.

I tried to convince the owner to plan a stop in Bermuda but was
unsuccessful. That would have given them the equivalent of a 3 day
shake down cruise and a chance to regroup if things were going wrong.

I dunno. The Caribbean 1500 sounds like a safer bet, as Bermuda's a bit
off of the rhumb line.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:02:40 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in
blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected
water with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing
25 to 30 kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued
and the gear is severely tested.

Other than the length of time, that's psychological with a properly
prepared yacht and crew. I'd far rather tackle 25+ knots in deep water
than on the Chesapeake, where that's *ALWAYS* ugly.

The important difference is that on the Chesapeake you know that
you'll be sleeping soundly in a warm dry bunk at the end of the day.
It's the prolonged fatigue and sleep deprivation that does people in
offshore.

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007100501023975249-jerelull@maccom...
On 2007-10-03 23:14:05 -0400, Wayne.B
said:

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:02:12 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

snipped:
Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in
blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected water
with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing 25 to 30
kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued and the gear
is severely tested.

Other than the length of time, that's psychological with a properly
prepared yacht and crew. I'd far rather tackle 25+ knots in deep water
than on the Chesapeake, where that's *ALWAYS* ugly.

I was a crew member on a 40'er that departed Yokosuka, Japan bound for
Seattle a little over 20 years ago. For the first 5 days out, it was a
wonderful ride until we hit a low and the **it hit the fan. After 3 days of
rain and double reefed main and stay sail, the owner captain had his
breakdown. This wasn't the cruise he had envisioned. We turned around and
headed back to Yokosuka. He ended up, being a retired officer, getting it
shipped back to San Diego on an LSD that was headed for home. I was ready
and wanted to go and to this day have felt that I was cheated out of my
Pacific crossing.

Leanne

On Oct 5, 7:43 am, "Leanne" wrote:
"Jere Lull" wrote in message

news:2007100501023975249-jerelull@maccom...

On 2007-10-03 23:14:05 -0400, Wayne.B
said:

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:02:12 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

snipped:

Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in
blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected water
with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing 25 to 30
kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued and the gear
is severely tested.

Other than the length of time, that's psychological with a properly
prepared yacht and crew. I'd far rather tackle 25+ knots in deep water
than on the Chesapeake, where that's *ALWAYS* ugly.

I was a crew member on a 40'er that departed Yokosuka, Japan bound for
Seattle a little over 20 years ago. For the first 5 days out, it was a
wonderful ride until we hit a low and the **it hit the fan. After 3 days of
rain and double reefed main and stay sail, the owner captain had his
breakdown. This wasn't the cruise he had envisioned. We turned around and
headed back to Yokosuka. He ended up, being a retired officer, getting it
shipped back to San Diego on an LSD that was headed for home. I was ready
and wanted to go and to this day have felt that I was cheated out of my
Pacific crossing.

Leanne

Did he ride on the LSD back with the boat or fly? Sheeze.. with the
flat bottoms the LSD's have you know it's a worse ride than any
sailboat. Good thing is the LSD's skipper would not turn around.

Joe

On 2007-10-05 06:11:03 -0400, Wayne.B said:

On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:02:40 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

Boats and people both react a great deal differently when offshore in
blue water, as opposed to coastal cruising in relatively protected
water with a nearby harbor readily at hand. When the wind is blowing
25 to 30 kts things can get pretty ugly offshore, people get fatigued
and the gear is severely tested.

Other than the length of time, that's psychological with a properly
prepared yacht and crew. I'd far rather tackle 25+ knots in deep water
than on the Chesapeake, where that's *ALWAYS* ugly.

The important difference is that on the Chesapeake you know that you'll
be sleeping soundly in a warm dry bunk at the end of the day. It's the
prolonged fatigue and sleep deprivation that does people in offshore.

That is the "length of time" aspect and a portion of the psychological
aspect I was referring to.

I would *not* want to be stuck in a multi-day storm, but we're talking
about the Caribbean 1500, which is a pretty short trip: 6-10 days, and
they DO postpone when weather's a known factor. At most, a normal storm
of a few hours' duration can be expected along with the usual fall
squalls.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/