Wayne.B wrote in
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse
wrote:

There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing
for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships
avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds.
Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite
different routes due to this reason.

Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it.


......And I disagree. There are many "normal" routes that ships will tend to
follow. Weather routing will on it's own create different routes, based on
the "basic" route.
In many cases for many reasons (weather be damned) ships will follow a
specific route with minor variations which may have more to do with the
particular Captain and/or vessel than anything else

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Wayne.B wrote in
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse
wrote:

There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing
for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships
avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds.
Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite
different routes due to this reason.

Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it.


.....And I disagree. There are many "normal" routes that ships will tend
to
follow. Weather routing will on it's own create different routes, based on
the "basic" route.
In many cases for many reasons (weather be damned) ships will follow a
specific route with minor variations which may have more to do with the
particular Captain and/or vessel than anything else

Besides, they've already programmed the waypoints into the GPS. Why fix it
if it ain't broke?

On 20 Sep, 04:15, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message

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Wayne.B wrote in
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse
wrote:

There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing
for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships
avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds.
Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite
different routes due to this reason.

Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it.

.....And I disagree. There are many "normal" routes that ships will tend
to
follow. Weather routing will on it's own create different routes, based on
the "basic" route.
In many cases for many reasons (weather be damned) ships will follow a
specific route with minor variations which may have more to do with the
particular Captain and/or vessel than anything else

Besides, they've already programmed the waypoints into the GPS. Why fix it
if it ain't broke?

I was actually think of the routes that ships took well before GPS!

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On 20 Sep, 04:15, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message

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Wayne.B wrote in
:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse
wrote:

There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing
for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships
avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds.
Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite
different routes due to this reason.

Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it.

.....And I disagree. There are many "normal" routes that ships will
tend
to
follow. Weather routing will on it's own create different routes, based
on
the "basic" route.
In many cases for many reasons (weather be damned) ships will follow a
specific route with minor variations which may have more to do with the
particular Captain and/or vessel than anything else

Besides, they've already programmed the waypoints into the GPS. Why fix
it
if it ain't broke?

I was actually think of the routes that ships took well before GPS!


Those "traditional" routes are still pretty much the same as are being used
now, for the most part. With the exception, of course, that ships can now
"sail" directly into the wind.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:28:41 -0000, "
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On 20 Sep, 04:15, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message

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Wayne.B wrote in
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:57:26 GMT, Evan Gatehouse
wrote:

There is no such thing as "Shipping Routes". Modern weather routing
for big ships mean that you'll find them all over the ocean as ships
avoid weather systems, or hitch on to ones with following winds.
Ships leaving from the same port 2 days apart will follow quite
different routes due to this reason.

Interesting, definitely makes sense when you think about it.

.....And I disagree. There are many "normal" routes that ships will tend
to
follow. Weather routing will on it's own create different routes, based on
the "basic" route.
In many cases for many reasons (weather be damned) ships will follow a
specific route with minor variations which may have more to do with the
particular Captain and/or vessel than anything else

Besides, they've already programmed the waypoints into the GPS. Why fix it
if it ain't broke?

I was actually think of the routes that ships took well before GPS!


Somewhere, of course not to hand, I have a world chart that shows both
sailing and steam routs for voyages between most ports for various
seasons.

I have no idea who printed it but it appears to be a US chart.

The sailing routes, of course, generally follow the monsoon and trade
wind paths while the steam routes are generally more direct but
following the same basic pattern.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

wrote in
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Somewhere, of course not to hand, I have a world chart that shows both
sailing and steam routs for voyages between most ports for various
seasons.

I have no idea who printed it but it appears to be a US chart.

The sailing routes, of course, generally follow the monsoon and trade
wind paths while the steam routes are generally more direct but
following the same basic pattern.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)


That may be a "Pilot Chart" .... can't remember the full name and number
but they were/are(?) done by month