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On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:06:01 GMT, otnmbrd
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"Steerage way" and the ability to steer your boat, can be and frequently
are, two different things.... i.e., you don't need steerage way, to
steer. What most need to learn, is to use the rudder with a quick kick,
without losing all sternway or picking up any degree of headway, or the
opposite, a quick kick astern to take advantage of prop walk.


That is very boat-dependent. Our boat has the prop 12 feet from the
rudder. Steerage depends on boat motion 100%. Also, the prop doesn't
walk. It is too close to the pivot axis to have any leverage.

So, we need steerage way to steer, but that is very slow. In practice,
I have been able to dock without assistance in a wide range of
conditions. But, I was pretty anxious when I first started doing that.



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Pivot turn OR backing and filling

FWIW a good basic method of backing and filling can be found at:
http://www.videos.sailingcourse.com/pivot_turn.htm
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Pivot turn OR backing and filling

FWIW a good basic method of backing and filling can be found at:
http://www.videos.sailingcourse.com/pivot_turn.htm
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BG To every "rule" there are exceptions.
In many if not most cases, your condition will not be the rule,
G but to cover that possibility, I added the last part about not
knowing the boat or the conditions being worked under.... hence, "food
for thought".

otn

Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:06:01 GMT, otnmbrd
wrote:


"Steerage way" and the ability to steer your boat, can be and frequently
are, two different things.... i.e., you don't need steerage way, to
steer. What most need to learn, is to use the rudder with a quick kick,
without losing all sternway or picking up any degree of headway, or the
opposite, a quick kick astern to take advantage of prop walk.


That is very boat-dependent. Our boat has the prop 12 feet from the
rudder. Steerage depends on boat motion 100%. Also, the prop doesn't
walk. It is too close to the pivot axis to have any leverage.

So, we need steerage way to steer, but that is very slow. In practice,
I have been able to dock without assistance in a wide range of
conditions. But, I was pretty anxious when I first started doing that.



Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


Does one child rape really change Strom Thurmond's lifetime record?
For better or worse?


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BG To every "rule" there are exceptions.
In many if not most cases, your condition will not be the rule,
G but to cover that possibility, I added the last part about not
knowing the boat or the conditions being worked under.... hence, "food
for thought".

otn

Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:06:01 GMT, otnmbrd
wrote:


"Steerage way" and the ability to steer your boat, can be and frequently
are, two different things.... i.e., you don't need steerage way, to
steer. What most need to learn, is to use the rudder with a quick kick,
without losing all sternway or picking up any degree of headway, or the
opposite, a quick kick astern to take advantage of prop walk.


That is very boat-dependent. Our boat has the prop 12 feet from the
rudder. Steerage depends on boat motion 100%. Also, the prop doesn't
walk. It is too close to the pivot axis to have any leverage.

So, we need steerage way to steer, but that is very slow. In practice,
I have been able to dock without assistance in a wide range of
conditions. But, I was pretty anxious when I first started doing that.



Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


Does one child rape really change Strom Thurmond's lifetime record?
For better or worse?




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MIDEMETZ
 
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Why not use a troling motor?

Mike
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MIDEMETZ
 
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Why not use a troling motor?

Mike
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 09:55:46 GMT, "John Smith"
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I have a small single engine inboard/outboard cruiser which is normally kept
on a mooring. I have just spent a few days at a berth and would like some
references for articles on berthing under a range of conditions, to improve
my skills and knowledge of the subject.

Any suggestions on the best source of articles etc?

Thanks in advance


A bit of a fun java based docking simulator

http://spot.pcc.edu/~mtrigobo/docksim/index.html

Peter

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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 09:55:46 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:

I have a small single engine inboard/outboard cruiser which is normally kept
on a mooring. I have just spent a few days at a berth and would like some
references for articles on berthing under a range of conditions, to improve
my skills and knowledge of the subject.

Any suggestions on the best source of articles etc?

Thanks in advance


A bit of a fun java based docking simulator

http://spot.pcc.edu/~mtrigobo/docksim/index.html

Peter

www.oceanodyssey.net
"Do not measure your life by the number of breaths you take,
Rather by the number of times life just takes your breath away"

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Chuck Bollinger
 
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Peter wrote:


A bit of a fun java based docking simulator

http://spot.pcc.edu/~mtrigobo/docksim/index.html

Peter

www.oceanodyssey.net
"Do not measure your life by the number of breaths you take,
Rather by the number of times life just takes your breath away"

Excellent. Thank you. Here's another:

http://members.home.net/mltsoftware/docksim.html

Nice website, too. It'll take some time to peruse - in any hat.



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