On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:39:35 -0600, "Karin Conover-Lewis"
wrote:

Skip

Swapping out a Lavac with a "regular pumper" isn't any more difficult than
the other way around, but the first time you have to rebuild the innards of
that "regular pumper" you'll be kicking yourself, hard. There's really
nothing in the Lavac that can break down or wear out, with the exception of
the huge (and dry) gaskets that seal the lid and seat. They are very
difficult to clog and very easy to repair. No joker valves soaking in
effluent, no little tiny o rings or any of that stuff. From time to time
you'll need to rebuild the diaphragm pump, but it's probably mounted on the
bulkhead above the bowl and stays dry most of the time -- particularly while
you're doing that quick overhaul.

Tell Lydia it's a boat, not a condo. If she is adamant, hide the hoses
behind a false bulkhead. ;-)

That's very good advice. I had heard reasons NOT to install a Lavac
that revolve around peculiarities of installation, price and so on,
but never has anyone suggested removing a fully functional one.

Their simplicity is their best advertisement. Also, in a pinch, they
make a great bilge pump. "THE TOILET THAT MAY SAVE YOUR
LIFE"...there's a slogan for the missus...

R.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:39:35 -0600, "Karin Conover-Lewis"
wrote:

Skip

Swapping out a Lavac with a "regular pumper" isn't any more difficult than
the other way around, but the first time you have to rebuild the innards of
that "regular pumper" you'll be kicking yourself, hard. There's really
nothing in the Lavac that can break down or wear out, with the exception of
the huge (and dry) gaskets that seal the lid and seat. They are very
difficult to clog and very easy to repair. No joker valves soaking in
effluent, no little tiny o rings or any of that stuff. From time to time
you'll need to rebuild the diaphragm pump, but it's probably mounted on the
bulkhead above the bowl and stays dry most of the time -- particularly while
you're doing that quick overhaul.

Tell Lydia it's a boat, not a condo. If she is adamant, hide the hoses
behind a false bulkhead. ;-)

That's very good advice. I had heard reasons NOT to install a Lavac
that revolve around peculiarities of installation, price and so on,
but never has anyone suggested removing a fully functional one.

Their simplicity is their best advertisement. Also, in a pinch, they
make a great bilge pump. "THE TOILET THAT MAY SAVE YOUR
LIFE"...there's a slogan for the missus...

R.

Skip

Swapping out a Lavac with a "regular pumper" isn't any more difficult than
the other way around, but the first time you have to rebuild the innards of
that "regular pumper" you'll be kicking yourself, hard. There's really
nothing in the Lavac that can break down or wear out, with the exception of
the huge (and dry) gaskets that seal the lid and seat. They are very
difficult to clog and very easy to repair. No joker valves soaking in
effluent, no little tiny o rings or any of that stuff. From time to time
you'll need to rebuild the diaphragm pump, but it's probably mounted on the
bulkhead above the bowl and stays dry most of the time -- particularly while
you're doing that quick overhaul.

Tell Lydia it's a boat, not a condo. If she is adamant, hide the hoses
behind a false bulkhead. ;-)

--
Karin Conover-Lewis
Fair and Balanced since 1959
klc dot lewis at gte dot net (old -- don't use)
klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net (new)



"Skip Gundlach"
.due.to.spam wrote in
message ink.net...
We're looking at a boat with these heads, probably new. However, the
piping
(apparently) needed for them, and the pump, both, on the wall, is very
off-putting to Lydia.

That they're part of a recent refit is an annoyance, but my stance is that
to replace marine heads is merely background noise in a purchase
consideration.

BICBW :{))

So, how big a deal is it to swap these out for the more typical pumpers?

L8R

Skip

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:56:44 GMT, "Skip Gundlach"

We're looking at a boat with these heads, probably new. However, the piping
(apparently) needed for them, and the pump, both, on the wall, is very
off-putting to Lydia.

I would not remove these until you have had a chance to use them for a
while. I had them on my last boat and they were extremely reliable.
The mechanism is simple and reliable and it takes a real genuine
effort to clog these up. Overall, I highly recommend them.

Best,

Steve



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It's not a lot of extra piping, the only real difference is that the pump on a Lavac is
usually mounted vertically on a bulkhead beside the head.


"Steven Dubnoff" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:56:44 GMT, "Skip Gundlach"

We're looking at a boat with these heads, probably new. However, the piping
(apparently) needed for them, and the pump, both, on the wall, is very
off-putting to Lydia.

I would not remove these until you have had a chance to use them for a
while. I had them on my last boat and they were extremely reliable.
The mechanism is simple and reliable and it takes a real genuine
effort to clog these up. Overall, I highly recommend them.

Best,

Steve



----------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Dubnoff
Circle Systems We make your data instantly usable.
Download Stat/Transfer from http://www.stattransfer.com
1001 Fourth Avenue, #3200 (206) 682-3783
Seattle, WA 98154 Fax (206) 328-4788

It's not a lot of extra piping, the only real difference is that the pump on a Lavac is
usually mounted vertically on a bulkhead beside the head.


"Steven Dubnoff" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:56:44 GMT, "Skip Gundlach"

We're looking at a boat with these heads, probably new. However, the piping
(apparently) needed for them, and the pump, both, on the wall, is very
off-putting to Lydia.

I would not remove these until you have had a chance to use them for a
while. I had them on my last boat and they were extremely reliable.
The mechanism is simple and reliable and it takes a real genuine
effort to clog these up. Overall, I highly recommend them.

Best,

Steve



----------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Dubnoff
Circle Systems We make your data instantly usable.
Download Stat/Transfer from http://www.stattransfer.com
1001 Fourth Avenue, #3200 (206) 682-3783
Seattle, WA 98154 Fax (206) 328-4788

"Skip Gundlach" writes:

We're looking at a boat with these heads, probably new. However, the
piping
(apparently) needed for them, and the pump, both, on the wall, is very
off-putting to Lydia.

Suggest she get a life.

There is Lavac and those that when they grow up wish they could be Lavac.


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures

"Skip Gundlach" writes:

We're looking at a boat with these heads, probably new. However, the
piping
(apparently) needed for them, and the pump, both, on the wall, is very
off-putting to Lydia.

Suggest she get a life.

There is Lavac and those that when they grow up wish they could be Lavac.


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 03:56:44 GMT, "Skip Gundlach"

We're looking at a boat with these heads, probably new. However, the piping
(apparently) needed for them, and the pump, both, on the wall, is very
off-putting to Lydia.

I would not remove these until you have had a chance to use them for a
while. I had them on my last boat and they were extremely reliable.
The mechanism is simple and reliable and it takes a real genuine
effort to clog these up. Overall, I highly recommend them.

Best,

Steve



----------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Dubnoff
Circle Systems We make your data instantly usable.
Download Stat/Transfer from http://www.stattransfer.com
1001 Fourth Avenue, #3200 (206) 682-3783
Seattle, WA 98154 Fax (206) 328-4788

Skip
What kind of boat did you buy?
Bruce
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www.cruisinglife.net/horizonproject.htm
"Skip Gundlach"
.due.to.spam wrote in
message ink.net...
We're looking at a boat with these heads, probably new. However, the
piping
(apparently) needed for them, and the pump, both, on the wall, is very
off-putting to Lydia.

That they're part of a recent refit is an annoyance, but my stance is that
to replace marine heads is merely background noise in a purchase
consideration.

BICBW :{))

So, how big a deal is it to swap these out for the more typical pumpers?

L8R

Skip