* Messing In Boats wrote, On 5/25/2007 5:43 AM:
I recently brought mt boat into their Wrightsville Beach, SC facility
for repair. Their tech misdiagnosed the problem and replaced all my
fuel filters instead of finding the one bad fuel injector. Then they
wanted to rebuild or replace all the injectors and the injector pump,
so I pulled out and found someone else...

Hmmm. Replace filters before pulling the injectors for testing. That
sounds reasonable. But why wouldn't you have done that yourself?
Rebuild all injectors once some of them show a problem? Maybe,
depends on the age.

It sounds to me like you didn't want to do the basic
maintenance/diagnostics and now you're complaining. FWIW, I've been
in exactly the same situation, and the moral I learned is that I
should be able to do almost all of the work on the boat. That way, I
don't pay someone else $200 to change a filter.

On May 25, 7:51 am, Jeff wrote:
* Messing In Boats wrote, On 5/25/2007 5:43 AM:

I recently brought mt boat into their Wrightsville Beach, SC facility
for repair. Their tech misdiagnosed the problem and replaced all my
fuel filters instead of finding the one bad fuel injector. Then they
wanted to rebuild or replace all the injectors and the injector pump,
so I pulled out and found someone else...

Hmmm. Replace filters before pulling the injectors for testing. That
sounds reasonable. But why wouldn't you have done that yourself?
Rebuild all injectors once some of them show a problem? Maybe,
depends on the age.

It sounds to me like you didn't want to do the basic
maintenance/diagnostics and now you're complaining. FWIW, I've been
in exactly the same situation, and the moral I learned is that I
should be able to do almost all of the work on the boat. That way, I
don't pay someone else $200 to change a filter.

I agree on that one. If you're doing the work yourself then it is
more of an option to just replace a couple of bad injectors and see
how it goes. Knwoing that you can stick a couple more in if needed.
Worst thing about injectors is pulling them as they are usually in
there pretty good. Shop can't afford to take that approach.

jamesgangnc wrote in
oups.com:

Worst thing about injectors is pulling them as they are usually in
there pretty good.

Huh? Some unscrew like a spark plug. Others have two bolts holding down a
holder bar like our Perkins. You'll need a socket and open end wrench to
get the line off it. It helps if an intake or exhaust valve is open...(c;

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Larry,

Good to see you participating again.

On a less positive note, I'll guess you've never pulled a set of diesel
injectors. More often than not they don't just pop right out.

If they are really "in there" the only way to remove them is to loosen the
mounting hardware a skosh and crnk the engine in hopes that the compression
pressures will knock them loose. Do not, repeat, do not remove the mounting
hardware before cranking the engine. An injector flying through the air is
just like a missle and quite as deadly.

Butch
"Larry" wrote in message
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jamesgangnc wrote in
oups.com:

Worst thing about injectors is pulling them as they are usually in
there pretty good.

Huh? Some unscrew like a spark plug. Others have two bolts holding down
a
holder bar like our Perkins. You'll need a socket and open end wrench to
get the line off it. It helps if an intake or exhaust valve is open...(c;

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

* Butch Davis wrote, On 5/26/2007 10:05 AM:

If they are really "in there" the only way to remove them is to loosen the
mounting hardware a skosh and crnk the engine in hopes that the compression
pressures will knock them loose. Do not, repeat, do not remove the mounting
hardware before cranking the engine. An injector flying through the air is
just like a missle and quite as deadly.


But if you do loosen the mounting hardware and then decide not to pull
them, remember to tighten again. Only an idiot would forget to do
that. Don't ask me how I know.

On Sat, 26 May 2007 03:22:11 +0000, Larry wrote:

Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Civil Engineering Graduate School Fact:

For a tall building to collapse on its footprint, the central support
column should be gravity load bearing and the edge columns should
provide the wind resistance structure . Like, oh, the World Trade
towers.

Gravity overload pulls out the center column fixings, while the edge
columns provide precision collapse guidance.

How 'bout that!

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 03:22:11 +0000, Larry wrote:

Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Civil Engineering Graduate School Fact:

For a tall building to collapse on its footprint, the central support
column should be gravity load bearing and the edge columns should
provide the wind resistance structure . Like, oh, the World Trade
towers.

Gravity overload pulls out the center column fixings, while the edge
columns provide precision collapse guidance.

How 'bout that!

Brian Whatcott Altus OK


Not for nothing, but the central support columnS (multiple) were not even
touched by the planes.

In rec.boats KLC Lewis wrote:


:Not for nothing, but the central support columnS (multiple) were not even
:touched by the planes.

The towers fell down due to fire damage, not because of the impacts.

On May 27, 7:38 pm, David Scheidt wrote:
In rec.boats KLC Lewis wrote:

:Not for nothing, but the central support columnS (multiple) were not even
:touched by the planes.

The towers fell down due to fire damage, not because of the impacts.

You are wasting your breath David.

Such retards think a demolition team wired the twin towers, flew
planes into them and tried to trick them into thinking it was a
terriorist attack so George Bush could invade Iraq. They think there
are 100's of Americans (that's how many it would take to plan and pull
off such a demolition) all keeping quiet about the mass murder of over
3000 fellow Americans. Not to mention the supposed missle flying into
the Pentagon and the crash in PA.

They are pathetic and discrace the murder victims who died at the
hands of Ossama Bin Ladens AlQueida terriorists. They would rather
blame thier fellow Americans.

Joe

"David Scheidt" wrote in message
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In rec.boats KLC Lewis wrote:


:Not for nothing, but the central support columnS (multiple) were not even
:touched by the planes.

The towers fell down due to fire damage, not because of the impacts.


If you say so.