wrote:
On Apr 13, 9:36 am, the_bmac wrote:
Not sure, but if in Australia they use the first-past-the-post electoral model, un-representative,
un-Democratic anomalies can occur, such as we see in Canada where a dimwit Republican wannabe gets to
be Prime Minister with 30-35% of the popular vote. Polls done by conservative newspapers show 70% of
Canadians NOT in support of our soldiers being in Afghanistan fighting Bush's mythical "war on
terror", yet our PM keeps us there.

Mythical war on terror? Tell that to the 3000+ killed in NYC by the
Taliban, based in Afganstan. BTW 25 of the people killed on 9-11 were
Canadian citizens, not that you seem to give a f*&k.

I've obviously struck a nerve here. At any rate, try not to be so dim in your responses. This "don't
give a ****" crap spews straight out of your Ann Coulter handbook, and she's a dumb as a post. How do
you think that makes you sound? I think your certainty about just who is responsible for the walking
chunks of human excrement who caused those aircraft to strike those buildings is premature.

These people are common criminals, heroin traders and murderers. The
al-Queda and their Afgahn hosts the Taliban kill, tourture and maim
the innocent to control 75% of the worlds heroin traffic. They do so
under the guise of Islam. Islam is against terror, Islam is for
understanding and termperance! These people headed by Osama bin
Landen, the Taliban the al-Qaeda terrorist camps have held hostage a
great religion for long enough! Now the truth is comming out about the
Taliban and Osama bin Laden. Let us make sure that there are no more
bin ladens!

Interesting, creative, passionate, but sadly irrelevant; which brings us to the funny part. ruth?
Some of you Americans have a memory that only goes back about 5.5 years. You perhaps don't know, or
would like to forget; which US Government agency funded and trained Bin Laden and the Mujahideen in
their fight against the USSR in the 80's; which US Government agencies and officials promised Bin
Laden and the Mujahideen all manner of financial aid and support as reward for fighting against the
Russians at that time and which US government agencies and officials abandoned Bin Laden and the
Mujahideen like they were bags of dog **** after the Russians finally gave up and left Afghanistan.
Who do you think created these monsters, Einstein? Just who do you think are al-Qaeda and the
Taliban? They used to be your allies ya ****in maroon.

BTW, why were Bin Laden family members allowed to fly out of the US in the days after Sept. 11 when
any good ol' American boy couldn't even do a run-up in a C-152?

But whether this rightard swing in Australia explains a Customs
regime that seems to be out of control is an open question.

Right, they should just allow anyone, at any time, to sail in on a
breeze. So what if they do not follow proper up to date custom
procedures. It's not like a terrorist would attack them....now is it?

Straw man, but nice try.
Do any of those people cited in those articles look like terrorists to you? Do the actions of the
Customs officials in these stories sound like rational behaviour to you? Of course given that you
seem as happy as Larry to have had your constitutional rights violated by the idiot Bush, perhaps
fascist behaviour such as has been described has become normal for you. After all, you're safe, yes?
and you're on good terms with your local librarian, yes? But you probably only take out the "good"
books, yes? Nothing to worry about there, and who cares if the NSA listens to your cellphone calls,
yes? You're a good American with nothing to hide, yes?

Don't like it, don't go to OZ.

Okay, you don't seem too bright so I'll recap the thread for you. Nice people make mistakes and get
reamed by Australian Customs and legal system. Some Australians post their discomfort and shame over
these circumstances, noting a change since a certain right-wing politico dillhole has come to power.
The point is, stupid, that these sailors have been abused by an Australian system whose officials have
acted with the discretionary skill of turnips, now seemingly motivated by the same state-sponsored
fear and paranoia you seem to think is justified.

What a rube!

On Apr 14, 3:02 am, the_bmac wrote:


Don't like it, don't go to OZ.

Okay, you don't seem too bright so I'll recap the thread for you. Nice people make mistakes and get
reamed by Australian Customs and legal system.
snip
state-sponsored
fear and paranoia you seem to think is justified.

What a rube!
I actually agreed with the rest of your rant but, REALITY CHECK:

If the guy would've just admitted that he screwed up, he'd have gotten
off with a hand slap. Instead he is STILL crying over injustice and
trampled
rights.
Hey Dude, you are cruising around the world! That's a privilege, who
the h*ll
do you think you are?

(Tyndale - Jas 4:2-3) Ye lust and have not. Ye envie and have
indignacion and cannot obtayne. Ye fight and warre and have not
because ye axe not. Ye axe and receave not, because ye axe a mysse:
even to consume it apon youre volupteousnes [lusts, pleasures,
concupiscences, ηδοναις, or greed].

Methinks the guy should get 1-5 lashes and an invitation to leave.

On Apr 14, 12:24 am, "tlindly" wrote:

I actually agreed with the rest of your rant but, REALITY CHECK:

If the guy would've just admitted that he screwed up, he'd have gotten
off with a hand slap. Instead he is STILL crying over injustice and
trampled
rights.
Hey Dude, you are cruising around the world! That's a privilege, who
the .......


Hi:

I agree with your post.

After reading the poor victim's blog again I once more came to the
same conclusion. He sounds like one of those "Don't Tread on Me" types
who sail where he wants, when he wants, and how he wants and aint no
body gonna tell me I cant... because I'm really smart and I know my
rights!

TRY THIS STORY
Last Friday I was walking back to my motel room after four hours of
drinking under my favorite bridge. I was DRUNK, no two ways about it.
(Yes, I like to drink alone) This is in a small commercial fishing/
tourist town with a population about 12,000. As I go walking along the
bayfront street at 1130 PM I crossed the street at 45 degrees
(jaywalked). Now, at that time of night in that part of town the place
is deserted. The next thing I know a cop accelerates 75 yards down the
street probable reaching 50 mph in a 20mph zone, slams on the breaks
putting his car into a 8' skid, jumps out hand on gun and orders me to
stop. Of course in his best command scream!

He tells me I was "screening" him, tells me he "smells alcohol"
demands my drivers license, and then tells me I am going to jail cause
I was "screening" and eluding an officer. The next thing I know two
more cop cars show up with in 3 min.

How would you handle that situation???????

Im just minding my own business walking along a quiet street at 1130
PM when I end up surrounded by 3 cops one with hand on weapon ready to
kill me cause I crossed a street. My choices were many as were the
many possible outcomes. Personally I did not want to be shot, get beat
down and arrested for disorderly conduct or resisting arrest.

So what does my experience have in common with mister man boobs
getting the royal shaft in Australia??????

Glad I aint In Jail Bob

PS I am also the guy who posted here last year that I do not believe
rogue/sneaker waves exist. They are just events mariners face when at
sea. Do you see a consistent belief here? You should. In other words,
**** happens. How we prepare and respond to events will determine the
outcome. I could have blamed the cops or those big wave events and in
both cases been beat down. But at least in both cases I could have
claimed I was the victim..... blamed the cops for being unjust or blamed
those terrible sneaker waves that came out of nowhere and sunk my
boat.

"Bob" wrote in message
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Hi:

I agree with your post.

After reading the poor victim's blog again I once more came to the
same conclusion. He sounds like one of those "Don't Tread on Me" types
who sail where he wants, when he wants, and how he wants and aint no
body gonna tell me I cant... because I'm really smart and I know my
rights!

TRY THIS STORY
Last Friday I was walking back to my motel room after four hours of
drinking under my favorite bridge. I was DRUNK, no two ways about it.
(Yes, I like to drink alone) This is in a small commercial fishing/
tourist town with a population about 12,000. As I go walking along the
bayfront street at 1130 PM I crossed the street at 45 degrees
(jaywalked). Now, at that time of night in that part of town the place
is deserted. The next thing I know a cop accelerates 75 yards down the
street probable reaching 50 mph in a 20mph zone, slams on the breaks
putting his car into a 8' skid, jumps out hand on gun and orders me to
stop. Of course in his best command scream!

He tells me I was "screening" him, tells me he "smells alcohol"
demands my drivers license, and then tells me I am going to jail cause
I was "screening" and eluding an officer. The next thing I know two
more cop cars show up with in 3 min.

How would you handle that situation???????

Im just minding my own business walking along a quiet street at 1130
PM when I end up surrounded by 3 cops one with hand on weapon ready to
kill me cause I crossed a street. My choices were many as were the
many possible outcomes. Personally I did not want to be shot, get beat
down and arrested for disorderly conduct or resisting arrest.

So what does my experience have in common with mister man boobs
getting the royal shaft in Australia??????

Glad I aint In Jail Bob

PS I am also the guy who posted here last year that I do not believe
rogue/sneaker waves exist. They are just events mariners face when at
sea. Do you see a consistent belief here? You should. In other words,
**** happens. How we prepare and respond to events will determine the
outcome. I could have blamed the cops or those big wave events and in
both cases been beat down. But at least in both cases I could have
claimed I was the victim..... blamed the cops for being unjust or blamed
those terrible sneaker waves that came out of nowhere and sunk my
boat.



So Bob, what's the moral of your story? You appear to saying, "When the
Government gives you ****, smile and thank them, then take a great big bite.
Sorry, but that is NOT what those who once made America great did, or would
do today. But now, eating Government **** sandwiches is equated with
Patriotism.

Makes me well and truly sick.

On Apr 13, 10:02 pm, the_bmac wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 13, 9:36 am, the_bmac wrote:
Not sure, but if in Australia they use the first-past-the-post electoral model, un-representative,
un-Democratic anomalies can occur, such as we see in Canada where a dimwit Republican wannabe gets to
be Prime Minister with 30-35% of the popular vote. Polls done by conservative newspapers show 70% of
Canadians NOT in support of our soldiers being in Afghanistan fighting Bush's mythical "war on
terror", yet our PM keeps us there.

Mythical war on terror? Tell that to the 3000+ killed in NYC by the
Taliban, based in Afganstan. BTW 25 of the people killed on 9-11 were
Canadian citizens, not that you seem to give a f*&k.

I've obviously struck a nerve here. At any rate, try not to be so dim in your responses. This "don't
give a ****" crap spews straight out of your Ann Coulter handbook, and she's a dumb as a post.

Angry little twit. The stupid kanook said the war on terror was a
"mythical war". Got news for you douchbag..it's real.

How do
you think that makes you sound?

About 100 times smarther than you.

I think your certainty about just who is responsible for the walking
chunks of human excrement who caused those aircraft to strike those buildings is premature.

Ossama admitted his involvement, and planning of the mass murders. And
BTW dumb ****, he aand his buddies murdered civilian's in many
countries.

Have a look penis lips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqP1zkxtCew



These people are common criminals, heroin traders and murderers. The
al-Queda and their Afgahn hosts the Taliban kill, tourture and maim
the innocent to control 75% of the worlds heroin traffic. They do so
under the guise of Islam. Islam is against terror, Islam is for
understanding and termperance! These people headed by Osama bin
Landen, the Taliban the al-Qaeda terrorist camps have held hostage a
great religion for long enough! Now the truth is comming out about the
Taliban and Osama bin Laden. Let us make sure that there are no more
bin ladens!

Interesting, creative, passionate, but sadly irrelevant; which brings us to the funny part.

What's wrong asshole, you worried your smack supply might dwindle?

ruth?
Some of you Americans have a memory that only goes back about 5.5 years. You perhaps don't know, or
would like to forget; which US Government agency funded and trained Bin Laden and the Mujahideen in
their fight against the USSR in the 80's; which US Government agencies and officials promised Bin
Laden and the Mujahideen all manner of financial aid and support as reward for fighting against the
Russians at that time and which US government agencies and officials abandoned Bin Laden and the

Yo dumb ****, if you are going to cut and paste other peoples words
you should give them credit.


Mujahideen like they were bags of dog **** after the Russians finally gave up and left Afghanistan.
Who do you think created these monsters, Einstein? Just who do you think are al-Qaeda and the
Taliban? They used to be your allies ya ****in maroon.

Oh so you think thats a good excuse to murder 3000+ civilians at
work..Got ya.
You sorry hunk of ****, it's clear you stand on the side of a pack of
murdering cowards. So what if they were allies in taking out Russians,
I guess you see that as a good reason to murder office workers huh? To
bad one of the 25 canooks killed was not your brother.



BTW, why were Bin Laden family members allowed to fly out of the US in the days after Sept. 11 when
any good ol' American boy couldn't even do a run-up in a C-152?

Hey stupid ****...read the 9-11 report and quit sucking Michelle
Moores dick.

11. The Saudis left the U.S. only after air travel was opened for the
general public. 12. According to Richard Clarke and the September 11
Commission, Clarke personally approved the Saudi departures,
and the decision went no higher in the chain of command.
13. Moore lied to a TV reporter in claiming that Fahrenheit discloses
Clarke's decision to the audience. Clarke called
Saudi exit material in Fahrenheit a "mistake" by Moore. 14. Contrary
to what Fahrenheit claims, the September 11 Commission found that many
Saudis were asked "detailed questions" before being allowed to leave.



But whether this rightard swing in Australia explains a Customs
regime that seems to be out of control is an open question.

Right, they should just allow anyone, at any time, to sail in on a
breeze. So what if they do not follow proper up to date custom
procedures. It's not like a terrorist would attack them....now is it?

Straw man, but nice try.
Do any of those people cited in those articles look like terrorists to you?

Tell me scrotum jaw, just what does a terrorist look like?
Sounds like you are a racist, just hassle the rag heads huh?


Do the actions of the
Customs officials in these stories sound like rational behaviour to you? Of course given that you
seem as happy as Larry to have had your constitutional rights violated by the idiot Bush, perhaps
fascist behaviour such as has been described has become normal for you. After all, you're safe, yes?

Is it facist for a country to protect in citizens and soventry?

and you're on good terms with your local librarian, yes? But you probably only take out the "good"
books, yes? Nothing to worry about there, and who cares if the NSA listens to your cellphone calls,
yes? You're a good American with nothing to hide, yes?

Don't like it, don't go to OZ.

Okay, you don't seem too bright so I'll recap the thread for you. Nice people make mistakes and get
reamed by Australian Customs and legal system. Some Australians post their discomfort and shame over
these circumstances, noting a change since a certain right-wing politico dillhole has come to power.
The point is, stupid, that these sailors have been abused by an Australian system whose officials have
acted with the discretionary skill of turnips, now seemingly motivated by the same state-sponsored
fear and paranoia you seem to think is justified.

According to people begging for money, to get them out of the problem
they got themselves into. A smart sailor knows not to deal with some
local yokle when visiting another country. The smart thing to do is
visit the embassy of that country before entering their waters and
having the up to date requirements. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
I can see how a mis-informed, bone headed stupid **** like you can
relate to someone dumb enough to enter another country without proper
permission.


What a rube!

What a cock sucking, terriorist loving, racist, stupid faggot you are.

Joe

wrote a bunch of frothy dreck which I:

snipped

whereupon he concluded with the stunningly eloquent

What a cock sucking, terriorist loving, racist, stupid faggot you are.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were retarded. Nevermind.

On Apr 14, 10:34 am, the_bmac wrote:
wrote a bunch of frothy dreck which I:

snipped

whereupon he concluded with the stunningly eloquent

What a cock sucking, terriorist loving, racist, stupid faggot you are.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were retarded. Nevermind.

Seems you are the retard, quoting M. Moores propaganda over the 9-11
commission.

Whats wrong looser? Can not address any of the stupid **** you posted?

Nevermind is right, you never had a mind to use..It's crystal clear.

You racist faggot.

Joe

wrote in message
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On Apr 14, 10:34 am, the_bmac wrote:
wrote a bunch of frothy dreck which I:

snipped

whereupon he concluded with the stunningly eloquent

What a cock sucking, terriorist loving, racist, stupid faggot you are.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were retarded. Nevermind.

Seems you are the retard, quoting M. Moores propaganda over the 9-11
commission.

Whats wrong looser? Can not address any of the stupid **** you posted?

Nevermind is right, you never had a mind to use..It's crystal clear.

You racist faggot.

Joe



Joe, what are you going to do now that Imus is off the air? g


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On Apr 14, 12:17 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
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On Apr 14, 10:34 am, the_bmac wrote:
wrote a bunch of frothy dreck which I:

snipped

whereupon he concluded with the stunningly eloquent

What a cock sucking, terriorist loving, racist, stupid faggot you are.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were retarded. Nevermind.

Seems you are the retard, quoting M. Moores propaganda over the 9-11
commission.

Whats wrong looser? Can not address any of the stupid **** you posted?

Nevermind is right, you never had a mind to use..It's crystal clear.

You racist faggot.

Joe

Joe, what are you going to do now that Imus is off the air? g

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Jon,

I've never heard of Imus before his latest racist remarks.
What do you do now that Air America is as bankrupt in money as Al
Frankin was in integrity?


Joe

wrote in message
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On Apr 14, 12:17 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...





On Apr 14, 10:34 am, the_bmac wrote:
wrote a bunch of frothy dreck which I:

snipped

whereupon he concluded with the stunningly eloquent

What a cock sucking, terriorist loving, racist, stupid faggot you
are.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were retarded. Nevermind.

Seems you are the retard, quoting M. Moores propaganda over the 9-11
commission.

Whats wrong looser? Can not address any of the stupid **** you posted?

Nevermind is right, you never had a mind to use..It's crystal clear.

You racist faggot.

Joe

Joe, what are you going to do now that Imus is off the air? g

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- Show quoted text -

Jon,

I've never heard of Imus before his latest racist remarks.
What do you do now that Air America is as bankrupt in money as Al
Frankin was in integrity?

I guess I'll have to tune in an see if they put down minorities and women.

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