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oups.com: Total BS. I trust Maryann with my life regularly. I've sailed with many competent women and it is not uncommon to see cruising boats out there run by partners where the woman is the better sailor. In the local high school sailing league girls have proven time and again that they are at least as good as the boys at the varsity level. I agree....as long as the waves are small, the wind is light and the loads aren't heavy....or, as in the sailing league, the boat is small. At sea, in heavy weather, my 255 pound ass isn't big enough much of the time. I can't imagine a woman trying to get the main down in a 40 knot gale with rain pounding her and the deck boiling up around her. That's just not right, women's lib or no women's lib. She'll never be as strong as a man....sorry. Thinking otherwise, though politically wonderful, is foolhardy and dangerous. Larry -- |
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Wilbur ,, you are once again absolutely right on. Women on a sailboat?
What a waste of good pussy. No wonder we haven't dropped any nukes lately. What the heck is happening to this country. Sailing is a man's sport. Period. We men need our "time" away. Doing men's things; farting, drinking excessively, wearing panty hose, putting on lipstick, mooning other boats, .... just being MEN. At the end of a hard day at sea, we want nothing more than a cold drink, a hot piece of ass, and some food. That is where we need our women. At the yacht club picnic area. By the time we arrive they have been drinking wine for hours. Most are so drunk, they can not stand up straight. So, we do what men have been doing since the first yacht club was started; we take advantage of the situation, screw someone's girlfriend, or wife. Yes! There is nothing more pleasureable than doing the wife of the bank president or having the good fortune to have Becky, the dock girl, sucking your pecker. Dressed in our blue blazers, with white pants, a Harveys Bristol Cream in one hand, and a good cigar in the other, we get to enjoy our time together talking about the important matters such as Biff's education or Tyler's new black girlfriend. I would rather be run down by a tramp steamer than put up with the constant whine of an unreliable crewmate. On a long voyage, there just isn't anything more manly than sitting next to John, your accountant, and realizing you have always had a crush on him. The two of you under the stars, watching the compass, ........ Reminds me of this movie about sheep farming ... never could figure out why the sheep were so happy. ============= ... As a general rule, women cannot be trusted without supervision aboard a sailing vessel. ... Total BS. I trust Maryann with my life regularly. I've sailed with many competent women and it is not uncommon to see cruising boats out there run by partners where the woman is the better sailor. In the local high school sailing league girls have proven time and again that they are at least as good as the boys at the varsity level. Oh, I'm not talking about some ridiculous varsity sport. I'm talking about coastal or off shore cruising where watches are taken so one or the other partner may grab some sleep. If you're honest, you will not help but notice there are far more men lone-handing than women. Is it because men would rather sail alone? In a few cases that may well be true but, for the most part, men who would dearly love to find a trustworthy sailing partner of the opposite sex cannot fine one because women simply are not interested. What kind of a life is living aboard a small yacht for a woman anyway? It's the very antithesis of what womanhood is all about these days. Gone are the days when the majority of women were more interested in being a helpmate for their husband than being a beauty queen set upon a throne for the whole world to admire. Overwhelming vanity and hedonism is what the modern-day woman embodies. Even the paltry few of those who are interested in yachts and cruising seem to be looking for a short cruise and not some long-term cruising lifestyle. Hence. they just don't take sailing seriously long enough to develop into skilled sailors. Those are the facts. Keep trusting your Maryann. One of these days, probably in the near future, she will let you down. The odds are very good that she will, at least. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"capt.bill11" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 2, 6:40 pm, " wrote: No potshots from me, but a couple of comments that I hope are constructive. We're taking the Captain's classes beginning in a couple of weeks. That won't make us better sailors, necessarily, but it will add to our skillsets. The USCG tests for licenses assume that you have proven to be experienced and competent in the service that you are testing for and to a large extent just attempt to make sure there are no gaping holes in your knowledge. Courses for the licenses tend to assume much the same and cover a lot of ground very quickly. I wonder if it might not be more appropriate to look at classes intended for novices rather than professionals. I agree. I think your money would be better spend on some other form of educational experience. Power Squadron or Coast Guard Auxiliary courses would be ideal. I hate the idea of making them "mandatory," but they should be taken by anyone who boats on open water. In Italy, I couldn't operate a skiff with an outboard engine without passing a course and test first. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... " wrote in oups.com: Total BS. I trust Maryann with my life regularly. I've sailed with many competent women and it is not uncommon to see cruising boats out there run by partners where the woman is the better sailor. In the local high school sailing league girls have proven time and again that they are at least as good as the boys at the varsity level. I agree....as long as the waves are small, the wind is light and the loads aren't heavy....or, as in the sailing league, the boat is small. At sea, in heavy weather, my 255 pound ass isn't big enough much of the time. I can't imagine a woman trying to get the main down in a 40 knot gale with rain pounding her and the deck boiling up around her. That's just not right, women's lib or no women's lib. She'll never be as strong as a man....sorry. Thinking otherwise, though politically wonderful, is foolhardy and dangerous. Larry -- I'll go head to head with most men any day of the week, Larry. My boat is sized for what I can handle. Nevertheless, your gendertyping doesn't take into account that there are plenty of women who are bigger than some men. Or even the average man, for that matter. And some day, we shall rule the Earth. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message news "Larry" wrote in message ... " wrote in oups.com: Total BS. I trust Maryann with my life regularly. I've sailed with many competent women and it is not uncommon to see cruising boats out there run by partners where the woman is the better sailor. In the local high school sailing league girls have proven time and again that they are at least as good as the boys at the varsity level. I agree....as long as the waves are small, the wind is light and the loads aren't heavy....or, as in the sailing league, the boat is small. At sea, in heavy weather, my 255 pound ass isn't big enough much of the time. I can't imagine a woman trying to get the main down in a 40 knot gale with rain pounding her and the deck boiling up around her. That's just not right, women's lib or no women's lib. She'll never be as strong as a man....sorry. Thinking otherwise, though politically wonderful, is foolhardy and dangerous. Larry -- I'll go head to head with most men any day of the week, Larry. My boat is sized for what I can handle. Nevertheless, your gendertyping doesn't take into account that there are plenty of women who are bigger than some men. Or even the average man, for that matter. And some day, we shall rule the Earth. The trouble is it's been recently proven that women's brains are smaller and, as a consequence, women are less intelligent than men. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0322060241.htm Particularly important is the way women's brains are inferior when it comes to spatial cognizance. Simply put, women get lost easier. Not a good trait for somebody navigating a small vessel. It has also been proven that women, even if they are the same size as men, have weaker muscles. It is well known that a woman who weighs 150 pounds has more of that body mass taken up with fat than the average 150 pound male who has less body fat and more muscle. Men's muscles, size for size, are stronger than women's muscles. So forget going head to head with men. Instead, be a good girl and concentrate on giving head. It's the path to womanly success. Wilbur Hubbard |
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In Italy? You are actually mentioning Italy in a posting about boating
safety? Italy? What next? France? Oh,, the humanity. ====================== "KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "capt.bill11" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 2, 6:40 pm, " wrote: No potshots from me, but a couple of comments that I hope are constructive. We're taking the Captain's classes beginning in a couple of weeks. That won't make us better sailors, necessarily, but it will add to our skillsets. The USCG tests for licenses assume that you have proven to be experienced and competent in the service that you are testing for and to a large extent just attempt to make sure there are no gaping holes in your knowledge. Courses for the licenses tend to assume much the same and cover a lot of ground very quickly. I wonder if it might not be more appropriate to look at classes intended for novices rather than professionals. I agree. I think your money would be better spend on some other form of educational experience. Power Squadron or Coast Guard Auxiliary courses would be ideal. I hate the idea of making them "mandatory," but they should be taken by anyone who boats on open water. In Italy, I couldn't operate a skiff with an outboard engine without passing a course and test first. |
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On 2 Apr 2007 08:22:59 -0700, "Skip Gundlach"
wrote: Skip, May I make a couple of points. 1. You said that you had a sea anchor and would have used it had it been more readily available. When crossing an ocean or when uncertain weather is imminent, it may be a good idea to have the sea anchor ready for deployment on deck. It is not onerous and will give you confidence to face any weather. I have a short length of stout nylon line with a eye splice on each end - with galvanised thimbles. One end drops over the bollard on the mid-foredeck (bronze maltese cross). The other is shackled to a short length of half inch galvanised chain which passes over the anchor roller preventing chafe to any line (one of the main problems of a sea-anchor). One does not have to crawl up the deck in a stong wind and crashing seas in the dark to "move the line a little". From the chain to the cockpit, outside the staunchions and secured at intervals with plastic cable ties, I have an 18 mm three strand nylon rode with an eye at each end. The sea anchor plus the zipped bag with the 120 metres of nylon braid are secured to the aft deck. Both ends of the braid are available when I open the bag and I shackle these (two bow shackles to each eye splice for added security) to both the rode along side the boat and to the para anchor.l When I decide to deploy, all I do is lie the vessel about 20 degrees off the wind and waves, throw out the retrieval line after clipping on a large round fender as a float, and when it has fed out by the boat's backward drift, I feed out the para anchor. It all happens in surprising slow motion and i'm sitting down, safely in the cockpit the entire time. The anchor pulls the nylon braid out of its bag and then, when that it out, it pulls on the line to the bow, snapping the cable ties one after another. There is nothing greater than being bounced around crashing up and down through the seas and heading into bad weather, than suddenly lying stable with the bow rising up and down with each on-coming wave. It's just like parking your car in a busy freeway on a long journey and taking a break. There is no way that I want to lug a heavy couple of bags up to the bow in heavy weather - it would be a good way to lose them over the side, go over myself, or sustain an injury by either falling or being banged against something. I use half inch galvanised shackles solely for security. I have had 316 shackles fail without any warning. One was attached to a SS chain hook at the end of a nylon snubbing line. It suddenly broke on both sides of the pin - mujst have been crevice corrosion. As the shackles are solely used for the sea anchor, there is no rust. Oh - and I always mouse these shackles with stainless siezing wire which I have short lengths ready attached to each shackle. I have an oiled pair `of pliers in the side pocket of the sea anchor bag solely for this. Word of warning - make sure that you have plenty of sea room. Boats vary, but mine drifts abckward at about half a knot - considerable in losing all that distance by running. 2. Learning on digital systems. Though I am employed in the digital technology realm and am no technophobe - I strongly believe that people should first learn to navigate using a paper chart, even if only at home. I have met sailors engaged in a circumnavigation who could not use a paper chart at all. A few came to grief in one form or another. There is something about being absolutely familar with a paper chart, plotting courses, determining leeway, tide etc that gives a more complete picture to a relative novice than does a digital chart system. Digital systems are great. That is all I have used for a number of years now, but I have found that people seem to comprehend better when they have started on a paper one. Hope this is of use. cheers Peter N.Z. yacht Herodotus |
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Yeah, I like Charleston, too, Larry, but I can remember being directed to a
slip @ the Maritime Marina that had "plenty of water" for my 3 1/2 ft draft cat. When we couldn't get closer than 6 ft off, I suggested to the harbormaster maybe there wasn't as much water as he thought. At least he cleated our docklines and hooked up the end of the water hose we tossed him. "Larry" wrote in message ... snip Y'all come up ta Charleston. Hell, there's more depth at the marina than in FLORIDA!...(c; Larry -- |
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:04:11 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote: Thinking otherwise, though politically wonderful, is foolhardy and dangerous. Larry -- I'll go head to head with most men any day of the week, Larry. My boat is sized for what I can handle. Nevertheless, your gendertyping doesn't take into account that there are plenty of women who are bigger than some men. Or even the average man, for that matter. And some day, we shall rule the Earth. What do you mean "someday'? I have been doing as I have been told by my owner for thirty years, but then I come from a country where the current and last Prime Ministers are women - New Zealand. Besides, how many men could stand at the wheel for over 20 hours without once leaving it in heavy weather when the new autopilot stopped working? My owner has. Another thing. Many cruising couples reveal that when it is time to go to the top of the mast, it is the woman who does so. I am expert at calling out instructions from below. Besides, I know where the tools she needs are. When the prop is fouled by a net, a line or a plastic bag (woven plastic rice bags are the worst), then the owner is urged over the side - my reasoning - woman have more subcutaneous fat than men and do not so readily sucumb to the cold. Besides, everyone knows that sharks do not attack women as readily - something about their smell. Lastly, women can be yelled at and sworn at during docking or anchoring - quite common in my experience. If you treated a male friend like that you would be sailing alone or lying prone often. cheers Peter Hendra |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in
news I'll go head to head with most men any day of the week, Larry. My boat is sized for what I can handle. Nevertheless, your gendertyping doesn't take into account that there are plenty of women who are bigger than some men. Or even the average man, for that matter. And some day, we shall rule the Earth. Some women are Russian Mud Wrestlers. But, alas, these are NOT the beautiful biological specimens I have longingly observed aboard yachts, over many years of longing observations, thank God. "WHERE'S THE BEEF?!" (Clara Pell) If one were to poll the assembled females observed sailing in and out of Charleston Harbor, over a period of many months, one would find them 120# soccer moms, some married but some foolin' around, who MIGHT be able to pull 30# on a genoa sheet and NOT be able to crank the winch handle, in high torque mode on a 2-speed winch, in a 25 knot wind. These are the women to which I'm referring....not Russian Mud Wrestlers capable of retracking a halftrack in Moscow in January. Larry -- "Iss next Efning Vear! Verry Nicea!" Remember the commercial with Soviet women in identical dresses waving a flashlight, on US TV?....(c; |
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