For a look at Captain Neal's Swan 68, go to this link
http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Vessel.html


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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There are sailboats and there are sailboats. Your boat should be a
reflection of your own life's ambition. If you are just a poor schmuck
living in a double-wide in Pennsylvania then anything you can come up with
to sail I say more power to you. A working man has to do what he can to
get out on the water and should realize even an unnoteworthy vessel is
better than no vessel at all.

On the other hand, people of means should sail a boat that reflects their
status in life. Not only boats but autos, for example. If I hire a
financial advisor I will have more confidence in his abilities if he
arrives for a meeting in a Mercedes rather than a Kia. If go to a brain
surgeon for an operation I sure don't want to see the dude arriving in an
old Volkswagen. See what I mean? If I go to the Tour de France I don't
want see the pros riding a thirty-year-old Schwinn with balloon tires.
You expect people to have and use things that reflect their wealth and
station in life.

The same goes for lawyers. If I hire a lawyer and he shows up in court to
litigate for me wearing cut-offs and a t-shirt, I will quickly inform him
I no longer require his services. Any lawyer I hire had better show up
wearing a quality Italian suit, silk tie and patent leather shoes.

Keeping this in mind, don't you think it would be wise for a lawyer to
show up in this group with boat having a quality name. A Hinckley, a Swan,
a Wauquiez, a Morris, an Oyster, a Contest. You get the picture. Could you
honestly have much confidence in a lawyer who could not afford one of the
above or was so ignorant that he sailed a MacGregor 26? How much
confidence could you have in a man fighting in court for your life or
freedom who had such low standards and questionable IQ that, in his
everyday life, he actually bragged about owning and sailing Mac26?

Your sailboat is more than some lame toy. It should be and is, even if you
won't admit it, a reflection of the kind of man you are. That's why I sail
a Swan 68. I certainly would never retain a lawyer unless he sailed
something equivalent.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:
There are sailboats and there are sailboats.

True

.... Your boat should be a
reflection of your own life's ambition.

How about reflecting your discernment & skills?

Whatever. The point is having a boat that's up to certain standards of
which you, yourself, claim to be up to.




..... If I hire a
financial advisor I will have more confidence in his abilities if he
arrives for a meeting in a Mercedes rather than a Kia. If go to a
brain
surgeon for an operation I sure don't want to see the dude arriving
in
an old Volkswagen. See what I mean?

Why yes, I do see what you mean. You mean that you are shallow and
materialistic. You cannot judge other people by their accomplishments,
or their character, so you judge them by their possessions.


Nope, you see nothing, as usual. You view the world through your own
defective lens that makes everything warped, wavy and unclear. The ONLY
way people can be judged is by who and what they are. The who and what
they are can only be determined by their works. Their sailboat is one of
their works. Is that so difficult for your stunted brain to understand?
If a carpenter builds a chair that breaks when somebody sits on it then
he's a **** poor carpenter. His works prove it. If a sailor sails a
Mac26 when he can easily afford better it then he's a **** poor sailor.
His works prove it. He bought a ****ty boat. He may as well have built
it. It's not so much a matter of expense and name recognition as a
matter of quality. It just so happens quality becomes associated with
certain names.

Wilbur Hubbard
Fresh Ideas

"Gogarty" wrote in mes

Has this group been totally taken over by trolls?

Which group,? you cross posted.

SBV

What does this say about your butt-buddy, Capt Neal? He
owns a lowly Craponado27. In fact he's so poor he has to
live on it!
At least JimC has a boat that he can sell, at a loss, yes,
but he can still sell it if he ever decides to get a real
sailboat. Your boyfriend on the other hand, wouldn't be able
to give that floating trash pile away. Jim's Mac26MX is
worth 10 times the Banana Boat.

I wonder what your Mercedes driving financial advisor would
say about throwing good money into a Craponado trash heap
that has devalued below $0?

SBV




"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in

On the other hand, people of means should sail a boat that
reflects
their status in life. Not only boats but autos, for
example. If I hire a
financial advisor I will have more confidence in his
abilities if he
arrives for a meeting in a Mercedes rather than a Kia. If
go to a brain
surgeon for an operation I sure don't want to see the dude
arriving in
an old Volkswagen. See what I mean? If I go to the Tour de
France I
don't want see the pros riding a thirty-year-old Schwinn
with balloon
tires. You expect people to have and use things that
reflect their
wealth and station in life.

The same goes for lawyers. If I hire a lawyer and he shows
up in court
to litigate for me wearing cut-offs and a t-shirt, I will
quickly inform
him I no longer require his services. Any lawyer I hire
had better show
up wearing a quality Italian suit, silk tie and patent
leather shoes.

Keeping this in mind, don't you think it would be wise for
a lawyer to
show up in this group with boat having a quality name. A
Hinckley, a
Swan, a Wauquiez, a Morris, an Oyster, a Contest. You get
the picture.
Could you honestly have much confidence in a lawyer who
could not afford
one of the above or was so ignorant that he sailed a
MacGregor 26? How
much confidence could you have in a man fighting in court
for your life
or freedom who had such low standards and questionable IQ
that, in his
everyday life, he actually bragged about owning and
sailing Mac26?

Your sailboat is more than some lame toy. It should be and
is, even if
you won't admit it, a reflection of the kind of man you
are. That's why
I sail a Swan 68. I certainly would never retain a lawyer
unless he
sailed something equivalent.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Mar 28, 8:50 pm, "Scotty" w@u wrote:
What does this say about your butt-buddy, Capt Neal? He
owns a lowly Craponado27. In fact he's so poor he has to
live on it!

He would say it reflects Neals status in life.

Pablo Picasso had his Blue Period, Neal is in his Purple Period.

Joe

On Mar 28, 2:47 am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
...(snip)..
Your sailboat is more than some lame toy. It should be and is, even if you won't admit it, a reflection of the kind of man you are. That's why I sail a Swan 68. I certainly would never retain a lawyer unless he sailed something equivalent. Wilbur Hubbard

Assuming that this guy is real and not under the influence of an
overdose of Root Canal medication, he may have a point.

I have an old boat (29 years old) that I built by myself and it and I
(67) are still running. And I'm still learning things and building a
shipboard computer system for my next boat I'll buy when I move to
China in August. I will admit that my homemade boats, buildings and
computers are " a reflection of the kind of man (I am)".

But I'll never be bored until I die.

From a candid point of view:

To the untrained eyes, a boat may reflect your status or your indebtedness.

The real picture of your status is reflected by the size of your crew and
the uniforms they are wearing.


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On Mar 28, 2:47 am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
..(snip)..
Your sailboat is more than some lame toy. It should be and is, even if
you won't admit it, a reflection of the kind of man you are. That's why
I sail a Swan 68. I certainly would never retain a lawyer unless he
sailed something equivalent. Wilbur Hubbard

Assuming that this guy is real and not under the influence of an
overdose of Root Canal medication, he may have a point.

I have an old boat (29 years old) that I built by myself and it and I
(67) are still running. And I'm still learning things and building a
shipboard computer system for my next boat I'll buy when I move to
China in August. I will admit that my homemade boats, buildings and
computers are " a reflection of the kind of man (I am)".

But I'll never be bored until I die.

The Boat may reflect the man, I have found you need a lot of money to
equip. a sail boat but there are ways around some and not others new
things cost, my boat is 33yr young and I would pick her over many
newer boats but the reason I realy got her was price it was the most
boat for the amount of money I had to spend the again you shouldnt
expect much more from a sergant in the Army (36' Morgan One Ton)
http://www.docsmity.com/
SFC Rob Smith

wrote:
From a candid point of view:

To the untrained eyes, a boat may reflect your status or your indebtedness.

The real picture of your status is reflected by the size of your crew and
the uniforms they are wearing.


wrote in message
ps.com...

On Mar 28, 2:47 am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
..(snip)..

Your sailboat is more than some lame toy. It should be and is, even if
you won't admit it, a reflection of the kind of man you are. That's why
I sail a Swan 68. I certainly would never retain a lawyer unless he
sailed something equivalent. Wilbur Hubbard

Assuming that this guy is real and not under the influence of an
overdose of Root Canal medication, he may have a point.

I have an old boat (29 years old) that I built by myself and it and I
(67) are still running. And I'm still learning things and building a
shipboard computer system for my next boat I'll buy when I move to
China in August. I will admit that my homemade boats, buildings and
computers are " a reflection of the kind of man (I am)".

But I'll never be bored until I die.





I make Mr Sails wear his uniform every time we sail...he has a hard time
strapping that peg leg on, though...

doc wrote:
The Boat may reflect the man, I have found you need a lot of money to
equip. a sail boat but there are ways around some and not others new
things cost, my boat is 33yr young and I would pick her over many
newer boats but the reason I realy got her was price it was the most
boat for the amount of money I had to spend the again you shouldnt
expect much more from a sergant in the Army (36' Morgan One Ton)
http://www.docsmity.com/
SFC Rob Smith

At least you have an official uniform...and your crew could all wear
their's too....CamoBoat!