"the_bmac" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:

Way too much Al Gore. The earth is in one of the coldest eras of its
history (unless you're a Christian that believes the Universe is only
6000 years old).

coldest? This is a bad joke yes? Perhaps you work for the Republican
Party, Exxon?

As to the CO2 causing "global warming", you need to put the graphs
together for the last several thousand years.

psst...while you were out, this has been done. Try doing some
research before posting such foolishness.


Read this:
http://epw.senate.gov/repwhitepapers...ld%20Media.pdf
and you will see how wrong you are.

Wilbur Hubbard

"the_bmac" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:

Way too much Al Gore. The earth is in one of the coldest eras of its
history (unless you're a Christian that believes the Universe is only
6000 years old).

coldest? This is a bad joke yes? Perhaps you work for the Republican
Party, Exxon?

As to the CO2 causing "global warming", you need to put the graphs
together for the last several thousand years.

psst...while you were out, this has been done. Try doing some research
before posting such foolishness.

The problem with Al Gore's "research" is that he had a preconceived
notion -- ie that humans are causing Global Warming -- then set about to
find "studies" which proved that idea. He conveniently discards any study
which refutes his claims, and blows others entirely out of proportion.

The earth's climate is anything but static. We are fortunate to be living in
a WARM period, but even so this "warm" period is quite cool compared with
eras past. Humans have a tendency to view the world as it is *now* as
somehow the way it should always be. We build along shorelines thinking that
the shoreline must *always* be in the same place. We build in areas which
are pleasant for us to live in thinking that they must *always* be pleasant
places to live in. The world doesn't care what we want, and is constantly
changing.

http://www.cei.org/pages/ait_response.cfm

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:42:39 +0000, Larry wrote:

"Dennis Pogson" wrote in
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It's called "global warming" and I am told we should all be doing
something about it, such as giving up our gas-guzzling cars and buying
tiny electric ones.



Way too much Al Gore. The earth is in one of the coldest eras of its
history (unless you're a Christian that believes the Universe is only 6000
years old).

Correction Larry,
6,010 years
Archbishop Usher set the date as 9am in the morning of the 10th of
October 4004 BC

And......., you've neglected to cite him as a source. We don't want
any more nasty recriminations do we?

cheers
Peter


As to the CO2 causing "global warming", you need to put the graphs together
for the last several thousand years.

Larry

Peter Hendra wrote in
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6,010 years
Archbishop Usher set the date as 9am in the morning of the 10th of
October 4004 BC



They probably cut anyone's head off that asked where His Immenseness got
that information....(c;

Larry
--
Alltel Axcess TV - 10 minutes of TV
then it dumps you until you click to
get 10 minutes more. It SUCKS!

I've been going up to the boat a lot:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/2007Work.htm

--
Roger Long

"Roger Long" wrote in message
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I've been going up to the boat a lot:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/2007Work.htm

--
Roger Long


Thanks for the link. I really like the way this page works.
http://home.maine.rr.com/bmssez/06Cruise.htm
Very good idea! Nice way to put some order into what would otherwise be
chaos for those unfamiliar with that coastline.

Wilbur Hubbard

I bet. btw-- next time you rewire something, getr some white 1/2 --
3/4" shrinktube from McMaster-Carr or Allied and use it to label each
wire with a Sharpie.

Life is pretty soft now -- I don't have to chop my hauloff lines out
of teh ice any more and I've put away my gumby suit till next winter.

Cheers,

Michael Porter


"Roger Long" wrote:

I've been going up to the boat a lot:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/2007Work.htm

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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:55:16 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Intending to start my spring work, I went up to Marinette WI were I keep
Essie, about a 40 minute drive up the western shore of Green Bay. Had lunch,
went to the marina, found that during the past few weeks in which we
actually had winter snow, someone has been shoveling the snow and piling it
up in several places -- most inconveniently, under the port buttocks of
Escapade. Did my best to clear through the remaining snow and ice so that I
could place my ladder for boarding, but couldn't get through the four inches
or so located just exactly where I needed to put the ladder legs to get
through the door in my winter shrink-wrap cover.

Bugger it all.

On the bright side, it appears that I'm the only one who thinks that it's
time to be getting the boat ready for spring. Not another living soul at the
marina.

Karin

Hi Karin,
In New Zealand, being more temperate, the only time we take our boats
out of the water is to antifoul and we sail all year, even though the
weather in winter can be a little too stormy and colder. In Malaysia,
the only difference in the two seasons is that one rains more often -
apart from the typhoons on the South China Sea side.

Out of curiosity (this damned rain is a good excuse), I looked up
Green Bay on Google Earth and in Cmap. It seems a wonderful place to
sail or just potter about in a boat. There are a lot of good protected
and shallow anchorages, especially about the islands to the north
where one could seek shelter from all weathers. I had not realised
that Lake Michigan had such a protected arm.

Question: With the aforesaid, why do you not leave your boat in the
water all year? Does the bay freeze over? I honestly have no idea. The
only place I have experienced winters cold enough to freeze large
bodies of water is in China. In New Zealand or Australia, if we want
snow we have to travel to the mountains in winter time.

Oh, we once camped in central Turkey in our mountain tent (essential
part of cruising gear) where it got - 20 degrees celcius, but there
were no lakes there, just snow on the ground. I always envied you
North Americans your white Christmas, making snowmen, ice skating and
cutting holes in the ice to go fishing.

cheers
Peter Hendra

"Peter Hendra" wrote in message
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Hi Karin,
In New Zealand, being more temperate, the only time we take our boats
out of the water is to antifoul and we sail all year, even though the
weather in winter can be a little too stormy and colder. In Malaysia,
the only difference in the two seasons is that one rains more often -
apart from the typhoons on the South China Sea side.

Out of curiosity (this damned rain is a good excuse), I looked up
Green Bay on Google Earth and in Cmap. It seems a wonderful place to
sail or just potter about in a boat. There are a lot of good protected
and shallow anchorages, especially about the islands to the north
where one could seek shelter from all weathers. I had not realised
that Lake Michigan had such a protected arm.

Question: With the aforesaid, why do you not leave your boat in the
water all year? Does the bay freeze over? I honestly have no idea. The
only place I have experienced winters cold enough to freeze large
bodies of water is in China. In New Zealand or Australia, if we want
snow we have to travel to the mountains in winter time.

Oh, we once camped in central Turkey in our mountain tent (essential
part of cruising gear) where it got - 20 degrees celcius, but there
were no lakes there, just snow on the ground. I always envied you
North Americans your white Christmas, making snowmen, ice skating and
cutting holes in the ice to go fishing.

cheers
Peter Hendra

Yah, Long Beach California was that way too -- like New Zealand, only not as
pretty. Boats stay in the water year round and you can pretty much go
sailing any time you want. Therefore, since there is no sense of urgency
about it, people have a "Manana" attitude. You can always go sailing
tomorrow -- today, there's beer to be drunk!

As for keeping the boat in the water year round here...

It's not all that uncommon for people, at the coldest period of the year, to
DRIVE across Green Bay. Ice gets to be a couple of feet thick. Yes, these
are stupid people, but they still do it.

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:21:50 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:



Yah, Long Beach California was that way too -- like New Zealand, only not as
pretty. Boats stay in the water year round and you can pretty much go
sailing any time you want. Therefore, since there is no sense of urgency
about it, people have a "Manana" attitude. You can always go sailing
tomorrow -- today, there's beer to be drunk!

As for keeping the boat in the water year round here...

It's not all that uncommon for people, at the coldest period of the year, to
DRIVE across Green Bay. Ice gets to be a couple of feet thick. Yes, these
are stupid people, but they still do it.

Enough said. I now understand.

I've seen old movie footage of the Russians laying railway tracks
across some lake in Russia (possibly Lake Baikal) but for me, to even
walk on frozen water in Beijing was initially a rather strange and
novel experience.

We left Turkey for northern Greece at the end of January 2004. We
couldn't understand why we never saw another sailboat until we saw a
Swedish boat when nearing Athens a couple of months later. The weather
was OK if you kept an eye on it but we experienced probably the worst
seas ever in the Northern Aegean - short and steep. Once, we were
anchored in an enclosed bay on the southern coast of Lesbos, had winds
of over 60 knots and raced on deck expecting the mast to have crashed
down only to find great chunks of solid ice from the spreaders on the
cabin top. If I translate that to your cruising area, I suppose I
wouldn't be too far wrong.

Thanks for educating me,
Peter