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The average boat owning idiot.

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
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Net loss of 270K. You pay 27 thousand dollars a year to use your boat
a dozen or so weekends a year. Stupid, just plain stupid!

Think about it.

Wilbur Hubbard

Now Wilbur do the math if the idiot did not purchased a boat.
Show with concrete evidence what happened to the 270K that what not spend
buying and maintaining a boat.

Gee, if it wasn't for all us idiots who actually own these pieces of
floating crap, Captain Kneel wouldn't have a boat to play on at all.
Wonder how many he'll be welcomed on after word of his attitude gets
around the docks.

It certainly didn't take just this tirade to dissuade me from inviting him
aboard.

Max

The average boat owning idiot.

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
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In "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
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In "KLC Lewis"
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Net loss of 270K. You pay 27 thousand dollars a year to use your
boat

a dozen or so weekends a year. Stupid, just plain stupid!

Think about it.

Wilbur Hubbard

Now Wilbur do the math if the idiot did not purchased a boat.
Show with concrete evidence what happened to the 270K that what not
spend
buying and maintaining a boat.

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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The average idiot buys a boat for say 100K and finances it for ten
years. He fits it out and keeps it in a slip. The fitting out
costs 20K,
the slip costs 5K per year, the insurance costs 1K a year. Haulout
for
bottom paint 1K a year. Fuel 1/2K a year.

After ten years the idiot has spent 250K paying back the loan, 20K
fitting out, 50K slip fee, 10K insurance, 10K haulout, 5K fuel,
oil,
filters, etc.

345K invested in a 100K boat that perhaps can be sold in ten years
for
75K. Net loss of 270K. You pay 27 thousand dollars a year to use
your
boat a dozen or so weekends a year. Stupid, just plain stupid!

Think about it.

Wilbur Hubbard

As for me and Essie, I paid cash for her (all of $8,000) and have
probably
put another $15,000 into new sails, rigging, instruments, anchors and
other
improvements over the past 6 years. I pay about $3,000 per year on
summer
slip / winter storage. Insurance is about $350 per year. Fuel? I
haven't
bought any for years -- I probably burn about $10 worth in a season,
since
the motor rarely runs and only burns about a quart an hour. Haulout
for
bottom paint? Hauling out happens every October, as close to Halloween
as I
can manage. I repaint the bottom, if needed, before splashing in the
spring
(one month from today) and isn't an extra expense. But everywhere I've
been
where bottom painting requires special haul-out, it happens every
three
years or so, and costs about $500. Even if it's a grand, it's not a
grand
every year.

What's she worth today? I can't say. I wouldn't sell her for rubies.
If I go
broke and bankrupt and lose 'most everything I own, I will still have
my
boat which will be my only home. People go to bars and pay $5.00 for a
drink
which passes right through them after stealing their brain for a
spell. To
me, THAT is a waste of money. Whatever floats y'er boat, mate!

We all know that it is dangerous to have more money than brains. To me
you are very fortunate, you are rich enough to get a boat enjoy it and
this other man is so poor he must calculate if he can afford one or
not.
As he can not afford it, we really should feel sorry for him.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

Lauri,

You are a trip. So touchy-feely and all that liberal crapola. If it
feels good go it. But have you never stopped to think you could have
taken your investment advisor's advice and invested in something that
would earn you some money instead of something that cost you an arm and
a leg?

Looks like you are even more cueless than I thought. The first boat I
bought was a racing dinghy in East Africa. Because I was keen to learn
and had more brains than money, I did some work on the boat and won a
number of races (actually some 90% of them) and sold my dinghy with
about a double what I had spent on it, because everybody with more money
than brains thought that it is nice to own a winning boat, you just sit
in it and win the next race. Then I came back to Finland, bought my
first 27 foot keelboat and sold it after 5 years with about double of
the price I bought it, the stock marked would have brought me about 20%
if I had done it properly, if I had done it badly I could have lost
everything, but at the meantime I could sail my boat entertain my
friends that would not be possible with the stock, bond or gold.

You can always charter a boat for a week-end if you highly value
a sunset somewhere aboard.

There are not a very good market for chartering, and it is very
difficult to coordinate the weather and the rosy sunset for the evenings
you charter the boat. Because I have been working in the university I
can administer my summers as I please, so I live in the boat
practically for two and half to three months. If I was forced to chace
the money as you seem to be, then I could afford to sail only for a
weekend or two, but this will not satisfy me.

I am afraind you do not know much about boats. Most of the sailors have
an idea what kind of boat they do like to sail. The charter companies
supply boats to ignorant people like you. They are suitable for being
kept in the harbour, you can invite your gests, offer them some
champagne, as they have cooling equipment, but they do not sail very
well, you do not get the feeling of beating in heavy weather and the
boat is nicely trimmed and goes high in the wind with some speed. Or
then you are aproaching the harbour in the dying wind, the waves are not
there the boat just goes, perhaps only 2 to 3 knots, but the silence of
the nature is beutifull, once a while you hear a familiar bird and you
know when you get to the harbour your wife is going to make a nice meal.

The best of both worlds can be had with a little sane thinking.

Sorry you are ignorant. There are not boats I like for charters not in
the area I sail and not when I want them. By the way, I have a
interesting project in my boat: Because we had a super warm summer, my
vife wanted a more efficient and bigger refrigerator. After some
thinking I know how it can be done, I have the cooling equipment and the
materials, when I get time to really do it, I will. To solve these kind
of problems could give some satisfaction to someone. Of course you can
get your satisfaction by earning another million, but if you can only
sail for a weekend and you can not afford a boat you like for yourself,
I think you are quite poor.

I can tell from your posts that you are quite impoverished.

I know that the governement does not pay very much, but as a professor
of statistics I have a quite interesting and satisfying job and if I do
not retire within a couple of months, i will do it within a year, and I
have paid for my house, car and boat have a bit money in the bank, so I
do not have to ask if I can afford to have the boat I like or if I can
afford to sail it.

People who say it's dangerous to have more money than brains usually
have less brains than usual. You can NEVER have too much money.
Just like you can never have too much fun.

I guess I have been working for some 40 years in a field asking for
brains, and done decently so I believe I have enough of them. I have
enough money to get what I need, but seems to me, you do not have, as
the money is an issue for you.

But, you do sound kinda cute. Do you have a nice figure? Are you 35 or
under? Do you have all your teeth? Can you read a compass. Post a link
to a picture if you're attractive. I'll take you out on my (paid for)
boat (a Swan 68) and we can have a sunset all to ourselves. I live like
a king. You can be queen for a day.
How's about it honey?

Perhaps you are gay, I am not, so I do not see much point in your offer.
I can read a compas, splice ropes and wire, install electronics and
repair and trim sails and be a very usefull hand on a boat, but as I
said I can afford to sail the boats I like. Swan 68 is a nice boat, but
I am afraid i would not buy it even if had the money, i can admit I do
not have it, one reason being that I choose a career accoring to my
interest not the economic appeal. So I do not have to prostitute myself
now.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

I withdraw my offer. But with a name like Lauri you must get mistaken
for a woman all the time. Do yourself a favor. Change it to Larry or
something male, please.

Wilbur Hubbard
two of the best mechanics i have ever known are called Laurie and if you
had made that offer to them you would be minus a few teeth about now.
personally Laurie as a name is just a name neither male nor female
it's up to you to decide and as Lauri never made any hint he was female
i would hate to think why you are still single.......
And please keep well away from me........
homophobia kicking here...................
Shaun

The average boat owning idiot.

On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:29:18 +1100, Peter Hendra
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:09:56 -0500, "Scotty" w@u wrote:

Besides your ranting because you can't afford a decent boat,
what is your point?

Scotty

Very simple really,

He gets the attention he so sadly needs.

Ever experienced attention starved little kids doing something naughty
right in front of you whilst staring you in the eye? They know they
are going to get punished but hey, any attention is better than none.

I guess that some of these poor souls never grow up

cheers
Peter

I believe that it goes a bit further then just childish attention
getting. More of a Walter Mitty complex I'd venture.

In other words, in real life, the guy is a complete loser. No
education, no job, no face, no nothing! Ah, but on the Internet he
can become the most brilliant and reverberant personality in the
universe, albeit, under a nom de plume.

The only solution for these creatures is the Kill File as responding
to their slobbering only encourages them. "See Ma, they listen to me!"

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

The average boat owning idiot.

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
The average idiot buys a boat for say 100K and finances it for ten
years. He fits it out and keeps it in a slip. The fitting out costs
20K, the slip costs 5K per year, the insurance costs 1K a year.
Haulout for bottom paint 1K a year. Fuel 1/2K a year.

After ten years the idiot has spent 250K paying back the loan, 20K
fitting out, 50K slip fee, 10K insurance, 10K haulout, 5K fuel, oil,
filters, etc.

345K invested in a 100K boat that perhaps can be sold in ten years for
75K. Net loss of 270K. You pay 27 thousand dollars a year to use your
boat a dozen or so weekends a year. Stupid, just plain stupid!

Think about it.

Wilbur Hubbard

In the UK, the average idiot keeps his money in a savings account, which
pays less % interest than inflation. He has no boat, and no interest in
sailing or any other hobby.

When he dies, the Government values his "assets" including his house (an
essential pre-requisite in our climate), and deducts 40% inheritance tax.
The rest goes on funeral expenses and re-locating his dependants in a
smaller residence such as a mobile home.

I would opt for spending the $27K a year on a bit of enjoyment whist I'm
alive, at least I can put two fingers up to the Government jus before I
leave the planet for good!

Money is there to enjoy. It's only money when all is said and done. Spend it
before the men in Westminster get their filthy hands on it!

Dennis.

The average boat owning idiot.

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:39:51 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:32:06 -0500, "Scotty" w@u wrote:

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
message news:RHCMh.109466

. Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.

Shore? Why do you feel the need to go to shore? When I
anchor out, I stay on the boat because that is where I
wanted to be in the first place.
You, sir, sound like a land lubber!

Scotty

Painful for Wilbur to hear, I'm sure, but it desperately needed to be said.

CWM

Yes, that's it!! (spark of recognition)

I just knew that I had met his type before. They are the type of
people who buy their first boat at a marina in Spain, have been there
about 7 years living on-board, have read all of the books and are
impressively knowlegable about ALL things boating. Any queries I had
while getting my boat ready for sea again, they had an answer for. I
remember being in awe of their experience and fund of knowledge until
I discovered that they had never once left the harbour. They had their
valid reasons of course - waiting for parts, the wife's operation, the
pirates off Morocco etc. But they never went anywhere.

In this case, nice people who did not try to increase their diminutive
unhappy stature by pouring scorn on others, but I was glad that I did
not know as much as they. I would never have left New Zealand if I
had.

Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise.
Peter - who still has a hellofalot to learn about boating - thankfully

The average boat owning idiot.

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:19:03 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:39:07 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.

Real sailors are not named Wilbur.

It has an un-manly sound to it.

Beats the hell outta Lauri.

Wilbur Hubbard

Your ignorance and indefendable rudeness is appalling.

You obviously have never travelled overseas or come into contact with
any cultures other than your own. You are the epitome of the ugly
American who knows nothing of the world apart from his own immediate
surroundings and judges other cultures by his own narrow and
extremely limited view. I thank God that your type generally stay at
home.

To make fun of another person's name (who you have never met) which is
unfamiliar to your ears is childish and rather churlish to say the
least. If nothing else, it reveals your true nature as a pathetic,
insignificant little man who I can readily imagine would never have
the courage to verbalise in person the trite frass which he so bravely
pens to the web.

I would imagine that Lauri is more of a man than even you claim to be.
The North Sea is not a place for wimps.

I can well imagine that you are short in stature as well as in mind as
you display and reveal to the world obvious symptoms of "short man's
disease"

Get a life

Besides, just how manly is your pseudonym - "Wilbur" What has a Wilbur
ever done?

Mahommed Panaeyotis Hendra
Make fun of these

The average boat owning idiot.