Thanks for repeating that (I posted it a while ago as well). I consider it
one of the most important and useful quotes in boating. It's amazing what a
calm, organized, and matter of fact vessel management style does to reduce
the size of the seas and the force of the wind. You almost always have
several times longer to deal with a problem than it feels like. Taking it
slow, thinkng it through, and not complicating the situation with adenalin
rush, is as important as your safety teather when the going gets tough.
Even many jet test pilots, where things happen really fast, often used to
say the that very first thing to do in any emergency was to count to ten
slowly.

--
Roger Long

Your vocabulary is going to expand!!
Heaving to is one of my favourites, someone always gets mad whenever
it is discussed here!

On a destroyer in the Navy, the mooring lines were 4 inches and there
were 6 men assigned to each line, the command to "pull the rope" is
"heave to!"

What has been mentioned [back-haul the jib and tie the rudder over]
is the way that everyone learned in school because all schools teach
with a sloop, but if you get a ketch there is a method to heave-to
using the mizzen aswell. And below I pasted a bit from the oxford
dictionary showing a couple other methods. Why I bet there is folks
as traveled around the world and never knew you could use your
spencer to heave-to! hhahhahahhaaa

But the imortant thing about sailing is just kick back and enjoyit,
cause now God has all the power! Stop rushing [bet that's how ya
lost the leg???]

tom
=-==

c. heave to: to bring the ship to a standstill by setting the sails so
as to counteract each other; to make her lie to. (a) trans. with
the ship as obj. (b) intr. or absol.

a. 1775 DALRYMPLE in Phil. Trans. LXVIII. 397 Hove the ship to. 1833
M. SCOTT Tom Cringle xv. (1859) 357 'Shorten sail..and heave the ship
to', said the Captain. 1884 A. BRASSEY in Gd. Words Mar. 163/1 We
remained hove-to all the next day.
fig. 1887 STEVENSON Misadv. J. Nicholson iv, [He] was at last hove-to,
all standing, in a hospital.
b. 1781 BLAGDEN in Phil. Trans. LXXI. 337 Soon afterwards we hove-to
in order to sound. 1835 SIR J. ROSS Narr. 2nd Voy. vi. 79 This obliged
us to heave to. 1860 MAURY Phys. Geog. Sea xix. §807 Took in fore and
mizen top-sails; hove to under close-reefed main top sail and spencer.
transf. 1832 MARRYAT N. Forster iii, We must 'heave-to' in our
narrative awhile.



On Mar 15, 3:34 am, "Two meter troll" wrote:
Ok ive spent my life so far driving around the seas in a boat
independant of the wind. Not only that but way way north of places
sane folks take sail boats in the modern era.
I am Ok at navigations, pretty good at marlin spike seamanship, but
the last time i used a sail was on a homemade pram in Bristlebay AK.
just playing around 15 years ago.

Being an old sailor means i figured out that to make it to codger, i
need to ask some questions and learn from other folks experiances.

how do you transition from power boat to sail?
what habits do i need to unlearn?
what safety habits differ from power to sail?
what am I likely to over look when plotting a course for sail as
opposed to power?
Where are the folks i need to talk to about raising kids on boats?
ports of call and boat yards in the pacific where you can get good
work done cheap?
side band channels to monitor for info and tips?
quick guides to what not to do in various ports?
where to avoid and why?
groups to sail with?
income at sea?
And whole bunches more.
I have the mother of all maritime links, and news groups, etc.
And currently i have time due to a crushed leg.
Thanks in advance.
2MT

Actually i lost the leg teaching folks to build and helping people
improve the livability if there communities; i quit the dangerious
stuff and learned to build safe natrual building
http://www.naturalbuildingnetwork.or...techniques.htm

Or here if you want some skilled fun.
2MT

* tlindly wrote, On 3/18/2007 8:04 AM:
....
What has been mentioned [back-haul the jib and tie the rudder over]
is the way that everyone learned in school because all schools teach
with a sloop, but if you get a ketch there is a method to heave-to
using the mizzen aswell. And below I pasted a bit from the oxford
dictionary showing a couple other methods. Why I bet there is folks
as traveled around the world and never knew you could use your
spencer to heave-to! hhahhahahhaaa

But the imortant thing about sailing is just kick back and enjoyit,
cause now God has all the power! Stop rushing [bet that's how ya
lost the leg???]

tom
=-==

c. heave to: to bring the ship to a standstill by setting the sails so
as to counteract each other; to make her lie to. (a) trans. with
the ship as obj. (b) intr. or absol.

a. 1775 DALRYMPLE in Phil. Trans. LXVIII. 397 Hove the ship to. 1833
M. SCOTT Tom Cringle xv. (1859) 357 'Shorten sail..and heave the ship
to', said the Captain. 1884 A. BRASSEY in Gd. Words Mar. 163/1 We
remained hove-to all the next day.
fig. 1887 STEVENSON Misadv. J. Nicholson iv, [He] was at last hove-to,
all standing, in a hospital.
b. 1781 BLAGDEN in Phil. Trans. LXXI. 337 Soon afterwards we hove-to
in order to sound. 1835 SIR J. ROSS Narr. 2nd Voy. vi. 79 This obliged
us to heave to. 1860 MAURY Phys. Geog. Sea xix. §807 Took in fore and
mizen top-sails; hove to under close-reefed main top sail and spencer.
transf. 1832 MARRYAT N. Forster iii, We must 'heave-to' in our
narrative awhile.


Thanks for that - very interesting. I looked in the 1802 edition of
Bowditch for a definition of "Heave To." There is a whole section on
variations of "heave" but nothing for "heave to." Perhaps this was
not common terminology for the ships Bowditch was concerned with.
However, it did have this:

"To Lie-to. To retard a ship on her course, by arranging the sails in
such a manner as to counteract each other with nearly an equal effort,
and tender the ship almost immovable, with respect to her progressive
motion or headway."

From a somewhat more modern source, "The Boatman's Manual" by Carl
Lane, 1942, the technique of lashing the tiller down and adjusting the
sails so the boat "goes to sleep" is described as "Laying To" but it
is mentioned in passing as being "hove to." Then, in the chapter on
small power boat handling, there is a section on "Heaving To" where it
explains that "small boats will not heave to without aid as a steamer
will, and a sea anchor, or drogue, becomes a necessity."

From 1943, Chapman's "Piloting, Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling"
uses "Heaving to" to describe the "helm down" technique for sailboats,
but for powerboats it is used when engines are used to keep the bow
into the wind, or when the boat is simple allowed to drift in whatever
orientation is most comfortable for the boat.

Thanks all.
im learning a bunch
2MT

On Mar 20, 4:34 pm, "Two meter troll" wrote:
Thanks all.
im learning a bunch
2MT

From 1943, Chapman's "Piloting, Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling"
uses "Heaving to" to describe .... powerboats .... when engines are
used to keep the bow
into the wind....

hey 2mt i think ya'lled call that "joggin in to it" if my Boaring Sea
and Bristol Bay memory serves me right.
Arggg.... Bob

On Mar 20, 8:57 pm, "Bob" wrote:
On Mar 20, 4:34 pm, "Two meter troll" wrote:

Thanks all.
im learning a bunch
2MT
From 1943, Chapman's "Piloting, Seamanship, and Small Boat Handling"

uses "Heaving to" to describe .... powerboats .... when engines are
used to keep the bow
into the wind....

hey 2mt i think ya'lled call that "joggin in to it" if my Boaring Sea
and Bristol Bay memory serves me right.
Arggg.... Bob

ya i was thinken the same thing and having a memory;

i remember hitting the boring sea slippin out of snowpass past
montgomery island and getting a day or so out (this was while the
weather service had Peggys station) and ran head on into a nasty blow
about 100m se of kodiac on our way to False Pass. Jogging with em in
the smokehole and making 1/2knt for more than a week. thats when i
learned about a weather sail and how to set one on a house aft boat.
pretty much saved our butts; Thank bloody damn i like to have a mixed
age crew. it was a puker who reasioned out how to set a sheet of steel
up to act as a storm sail.
2MT

On Mar 18, 6:12 pm, Jeff wrote:

Thanks for that - very interesting. I looked in the 1802 edition of
Bowditch for a definition of "Heave To." There is a whole section on
variations of "heave" but nothing for "heave to." Perhaps this was
not common terminology for the ships Bowditch was concerned with.

Awwhh! Heaving to is for pleasure craft!!
There's very few situations where a pro might heave to, instead a
ships
master would chain his crew to the oars where heave and to are two
separate commands!!!