Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state
forever. It is the second most corrupt state in the union.
New Jersey has the number 1 spot and isn't giving it up.

Companies are moving out as fast as they can. Fidelity Investments is one.
And Fidelity has been a long time employer in Mass.

The Democrats are more corrupt than the Repubs. They not only steal but
ruin what is there, or left.

The new Democrat governor went out and got himself a Caddie. The man is
BLACK. The first BLACK governor and the first thing he does is get a
Caddie? Hello?

Then he hires a $72,000 per year secretary for his wife. State funds for
the job. His wife? She is a partner in a lawfirm. And now she has
admitted that she is NUTS! So, what is the $72,000 secretary going to do,
get her to the NUT HOUSE?

The two senators? Kennedy and Kerry. One a murderer and the other a lying
phony.

There are so many taxes, that the state of Mass even taxes the taxes. Ask
any boat owner.

And for what? The murder rate in Boston is going through the roof.

The state troopers earn over $200,000 per years to sit in cars at
construction sites.

Why do you think the terrorists picked Boston as the spot to get on planes
to fly into the World Trade Tower?

Because the incompetent police, security, etc at Logan airport was a joke.
It isn't how much you know to get a job
in Mass, it is how much you give to the right pol.

The whole state is a ruin, a corrupt joke. And the companies that have been
putting up with it are leaving.


So much for the Democrats.

I hope every large company in Mass leaves and the whole place goes into
depression. Bankrupt the place. Let em stave.

The day T Kennedy kicks I am having a huge party!


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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...
Talk about being able to see the handwriting on the wall . . .
Haliburton moves corporate headquarters to Dubai. Take that, you tax
and spend Democrats!

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/.../4620191.htmlv

"Lesar's announcement appears to signal one of the highest-profile moves
by a U.S. corporate leader to Dubai, an Arab boomtown where free-market
capitalism has been paired with some of the world's most liberal tax,
investment and residency laws."

More proof Democrats in power are bad for the country. While Democrats
complain about all the US jobs moving offshore their tax and spend
policies drive companies who employ Americans offshore.

Wilbur Hubbard

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:cYdJh.4038$0W5.2253@trndny05...
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever. It is the second most corrupt state in the union.
New Jersey has the number 1 spot and isn't giving it up.

Companies are moving out as fast as they can. Fidelity Investments is
one. And Fidelity has been a long time employer in Mass.

The Democrats are more corrupt than the Repubs. They not only steal
but ruin what is there, or left.

The new Democrat governor went out and got himself a Caddie. The man
is BLACK. The first BLACK governor and the first thing he does is get
a Caddie? Hello?

Then he hires a $72,000 per year secretary for his wife. State funds
for the job. His wife? She is a partner in a lawfirm. And now she
has admitted that she is NUTS! So, what is the $72,000 secretary
going to do, get her to the NUT HOUSE?

The two senators? Kennedy and Kerry. One a murderer and the other a
lying phony.

There are so many taxes, that the state of Mass even taxes the taxes.
Ask any boat owner.

And for what? The murder rate in Boston is going through the roof.

The state troopers earn over $200,000 per years to sit in cars at
construction sites.

Why do you think the terrorists picked Boston as the spot to get on
planes to fly into the World Trade Tower?

Because the incompetent police, security, etc at Logan airport was a
joke. It isn't how much you know to get a job
in Mass, it is how much you give to the right pol.

The whole state is a ruin, a corrupt joke. And the companies that
have been putting up with it are leaving.


So much for the Democrats.

I hope every large company in Mass leaves and the whole place goes
into depression. Bankrupt the place. Let em stave.

The day T Kennedy kicks I am having a huge party!


You sound like a very perceptive and intelligent person capable of
seeing for yourself what's going on and not believing a bunch of
Democrat lies. It's refreshing to hear sound thinking from time to time.
Everything you wrote is fact and documented fact at that. Yet, you will
have people calling you names and saying you have mental problems. And
this from people who will not accept facts but would rather accept
Democrat lies because they are among the lazy good-for-nothings who vote
for anybody who promises to give them a free ride.

To see the future of Massachusetts read a book called, "Atlas Shrugged"
by Ayn Rand.

Wilbur Hubbard

* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state
forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized
tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states.
Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the
lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost
the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated
amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best
if you stayed well clear.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized
tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states.
Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the
lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost
the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated
amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best
if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at
their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized
tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states.
Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the
lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost
the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated
amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best
if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at
their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the
most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable
items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a
"standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state.
In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95%
of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the
national average, one of the lowest in the country.

Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most
regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than
Massachusetts!

Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to
actually determine the truth about even simple issues.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the
standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of
the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with
one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide
rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care
systems are rated amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its
best if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this:
http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling
at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the
most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable
items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a
"standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state.
In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95%
of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the
national average, one of the lowest in the country.

Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most
regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than
Massachusetts!

Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to
actually determine the truth about even simple issues.

Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes
are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on
groceries.

Wilbur Hubbard

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 4:02 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the
standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of
the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with
one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide
rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care
systems are rated amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its
best if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling
at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the
most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable
items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a
"standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state.
In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95%
of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the
national average, one of the lowest in the country.

Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most
regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than
Massachusetts!

Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to
actually determine the truth about even simple issues.

Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes
are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on groceries.

Perhaps you should read your own sources rather than make up "data."
Here's the sheet for FL:
http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/fl%20pr.pdf

The poorest 20% are paying 14.4% of their income, mostly in sales tax.
In MA, the lowest group only spends 9.3%.

Jeff ,,, really man ... you are making a complete fool of yourself.

The poor in Mass can't afford a home. Why? Because the state won't let any
homes get built.

You throw in the income tax, sales tax, excise tax, real estate tax, the
"Big Dig" corruption,,,,

You are out of your F'n mind.

Mass sucks! It is corrupt. Why do you think Fidelity is leaving? The
employees I have spoken to can't get out of Mass
quick enough.

You should consider therapy.


What a joke,,,


I'm sure Ted Kennedy is drinking to your stupidity.


========================================
"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 4:02 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized
tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states.
Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the
lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost
the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated
amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best
if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this:
http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at
their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the
most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable
items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a
"standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state. In
fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95% of
the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the
national average, one of the lowest in the country.

Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most
regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than
Massachusetts!

Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to
actually determine the truth about even simple issues.

Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes
are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on
groceries.

Perhaps you should read your own sources rather than make up "data."
Here's the sheet for FL:
http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/fl%20pr.pdf

The poorest 20% are paying 14.4% of their income, mostly in sales tax. In
MA, the lowest group only spends 9.3%.

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the
standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of
the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with
one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide
rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care
systems are rated amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its
best if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling
at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the
most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable
items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a
"standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state.
In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95%
of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the
national average, one of the lowest in the country.

Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most
regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than
Massachusetts!

Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to
actually determine the truth about even simple issues.

Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes
are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on groceries.

Wilbur Hubbard
But boy do they stick it to you with property taxes in insurance!

"krj" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running
the state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the
standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any
of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average,
with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our
suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health
care systems are rated amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its
best if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this:
http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling
at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that
the most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain
taxable items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the
report is a "standard form" that the web site offers for just about
every state. In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal
burden shared by 95% of the state. And, the local tax on the poor
is 20% lower than the national average, one of the lowest in the
country.

Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most
regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than
Massachusetts!

Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to
actually determine the truth about even simple issues.

Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales
taxes are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on
groceries.

Wilbur Hubbard
But boy do they stick it to you with property taxes in insurance!


So, is there anybody forcing a body to own property and to insure it?
No! Well, I thought so. As long as owning property is a choice then you
choose to pay property taxes and you choose to insure it. If you borrow
to buy then you're also forced to insure the property. It's as simple as
that. Now, if people were forced to own property then had to pay
property taxes and insurance, that would be a different story
altogether. It seems to me if there's any such thing as a fair tax then
property tax sure fits the bill.

It seems correct to me the more property and the more expensive property
you own you should be taxed on it on a percentage basis. Same percentage
whether your property is worth fifty grand or fifty million grand. But
there is help for the lower income folks. There is a 25K homestead
exemption soon to go up to 50K on which the property owner pays not one
thin dime. This helps out the low income people and sticks it to the
rich. Boy are the rich ****s ever complaining and lobbying AGAINST the
doubling of the homestead exemption. Seems like they don't mind
sticking it to the poor but when they have to pay for their mansions
they balk.

Wilbur Hubbard