* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state
forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized
tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states.
Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the
lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost
the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated
amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best
if you stayed well clear.

"Gogarty" wrote in message
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In article ,
llid says...

To see the future of Massachusetts read a book called, "Atlas Shrugged"
by Ayn Rand.

Oh! Jesus! Now we really are into nut frutcake land.


Absolutely. We all know that "The Fountainhead" would be a much better
example.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized
tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states.
Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the
lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost
the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated
amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best
if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at
their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized
tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states.
Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the
lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost
the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated
amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best
if you stayed well clear.

http://www.retirementliving.com/RLtaxburdens.html

Look at the dollar figure on the chart. Massachusetts taxpayers fork
over $5,047 dollars per year. Only exceeded by Connecticut, New Jersey
and New York.

You lose!

Wilbur Hubbard

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized
tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states.
Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the
lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost
the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated
amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best
if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at
their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the
most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable
items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a
"standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state.
In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95%
of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the
national average, one of the lowest in the country.

Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most
regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than
Massachusetts!

Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to
actually determine the truth about even simple issues.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the
standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of
the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with
one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide
rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care
systems are rated amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its
best if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this:
http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling
at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the
most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable
items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a
"standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state.
In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95%
of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the
national average, one of the lowest in the country.

Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most
regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than
Massachusetts!

Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to
actually determine the truth about even simple issues.

Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes
are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on
groceries.

Wilbur Hubbard

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:22 PM:

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized
tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states.
Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the
lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost
the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated
amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best
if you stayed well clear.

http://www.retirementliving.com/RLtaxburdens.html

Look at the dollar figure on the chart. Massachusetts taxpayers fork
over $5,047 dollars per year. Only exceeded by Connecticut, New Jersey
and New York.


It appears that the concepts of "as a percentage of income" and "per
capita" income are lost on you.

Captain Morgan ,, yes; I am mad. Mad as HELL! The F'n Democrats in Mass
have ruined the F'n state.

It is so bad that cruising sailors I know, who have cruised to Nantucket
each year for over 30 years, won't go anymore. The whole system in Mass is
"stick it to the little guy" and let the rich assholes such as John Kerry
[ who has a home and a huge motorboat on Nantucket which were paid for by
his obnoxious wife ] live the good life.

Just one example. When Rose Kennedy died [ she being the mother of JFK, and
Sen Teddy the Drunk ] the family listed her home address as Palm Beach,
Florida so they would not pay taxes. She hadn't stepped on the soil of
Florida for 20 years!

Did they get brought in to court and told to pay the taxes on the estate?
Oh nooooooo... they are the Kennedy's.

This is how the whole state is run. The ordinary folks get screwed day in
and day out while the rich assholes such as Teddy the Drunk and John Kerry
the Phoney .. live the good life with a set of rules that don't apply to
anyone but them.

As an American and a boater ... I am sick of it.

I'm sick of the rich liberals who live under one set of rules while sticking
it to the normal, working, sailors.

You bet I'm ****ed .. and I am staying ****ed as long as the system in Mass
stays corrupt.





"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:02:32 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state
forever. It is the second most corrupt state in the union.
New Jersey has the number 1 spot and isn't giving it up.

Companies are moving out as fast as they can. Fidelity Investments is
one.
And Fidelity has been a long time employer in Mass.

The Democrats are more corrupt than the Repubs. They not only steal but
ruin what is there, or left.

The new Democrat governor went out and got himself a Caddie. The man is
BLACK. The first BLACK governor and the first thing he does is get a
Caddie? Hello?

Then he hires a $72,000 per year secretary for his wife. State funds for
the job. His wife? She is a partner in a lawfirm. And now she has
admitted that she is NUTS! So, what is the $72,000 secretary going to do,
get her to the NUT HOUSE?

The two senators? Kennedy and Kerry. One a murderer and the other a
lying
phony.

There are so many taxes, that the state of Mass even taxes the taxes. Ask
any boat owner.

And for what? The murder rate in Boston is going through the roof.

The state troopers earn over $200,000 per years to sit in cars at
construction sites.

Why do you think the terrorists picked Boston as the spot to get on planes
to fly into the World Trade Tower?

Because the incompetent police, security, etc at Logan airport was a joke.
It isn't how much you know to get a job
in Mass, it is how much you give to the right pol.

The whole state is a ruin, a corrupt joke. And the companies that have
been
putting up with it are leaving.


So much for the Democrats.

I hope every large company in Mass leaves and the whole place goes into
depression. Bankrupt the place. Let em stave.

The day T Kennedy kicks I am having a huge party!



You sound like a VERY unhappy person. Treatment is available.

CWM

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 4:02 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the
state forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the
national average. We have one of the best school systems in the
country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the
standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of
the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with
one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide
rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care
systems are rated amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its
best if you stayed well clear.


I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf

Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling
at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts.

Wilbur Hubbard

I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the
most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable
items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a
"standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state.
In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95%
of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the
national average, one of the lowest in the country.

Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most
regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than
Massachusetts!

Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to
actually determine the truth about even simple issues.

Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes
are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on groceries.

Perhaps you should read your own sources rather than make up "data."
Here's the sheet for FL:
http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/fl%20pr.pdf

The poorest 20% are paying 14.4% of their income, mostly in sales tax.
In MA, the lowest group only spends 9.3%.

You are F'n nuts. Either you have never lived anywhere else, or you are
part of the problem.

As for your schools ... They Suck!

U Mass .... aka Zoo Mass.

Why is it that all the rich pols in your great state send their kids to
private school?

You know of any Kennedys who attend public school? Did John Kerry go to
public school? Teddy? Deval Patrick?

Nope ... private school.


And as for the crime rate .... are you kidding. There is a murder a day in
Boston ..

Oh,, they are Black ... guess that doesn't count.


Really, you are making a fool of yourself ..


"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state
forever.

And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national
average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the
highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and
math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below
the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country.
Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major
health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country.


It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if
you stayed well clear.