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Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
"Jere Lull" skrev i en meddelelse ... In article , lid wrote: "capt.bill11" wrote: You just use a power windlass with a self dropping anchor with a up/ down switch at the helm. SNIP I agree, except for the size. I have found windlasses to be a bother with modern designs at 32' or below, say about 5 tons. In the rare cases where we're leaving an anchorage in enough wind to make hauling difficult, either Pat twiddles the motor controls or I shift the rode to the stern and haul with the genny winch. How do you handle this situation, if you're the only person on the boat? I mean, how do you get the anchor in place with the chain/rode, without damaging the freeboard? -- Flemming Torp Gimle/DEN-61 |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
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"Flemming Torp" fletopkanelbolle2rp.danmark wrote: In the rare cases where we're leaving an anchorage in enough wind to make hauling difficult, either Pat twiddles the motor controls or I shift the rode to the stern and haul with the genny winch. How do you handle this situation, if you're the only person on the boat? I mean, how do you get the anchor in place with the chain/rode, without damaging the freeboard? Lead the free rode back to the aft fairlead and winch, release the rode at the bow & haul. Truth be told, I did that only for practice as it's messy and I hardly ever find myself needing to leave an anchorage in winds that high. DID do it a couple of times to free a very deeply set anchor. About my most difficult hand-haul was in the BVI on a Beneteau 33 in about 25 knots (Christmas winds). By simply hauling only when the rode was a little freer from our sailing around, snubbing the rest of the time, it didn't take much effort, though it took a while. If I'm in a hurry, I'll lash the tiller amidships, put the engine in gear just enough to ease the tension slightly, then haul from the bow. Once we're *near* free, I'll walk back, kick the boat out of gear, then finish up on the anchor. It's easy to bring an anchor in from about 2:1 if there's any wave action, which you'll have in those winds. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's NEW Pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
"Jere Lull" skrev i en meddelelse ... In article , "Flemming Torp" fletopkanelbolle2rp.danmark wrote: In the rare cases where we're leaving an anchorage in enough wind to make hauling difficult, either Pat twiddles the motor controls or I shift the rode to the stern and haul with the genny winch. How do you handle this situation, if you're the only person on the boat? I mean, how do you get the anchor in place with the chain/rode, without damaging the freeboard? Lead the free rode back to the aft fairlead and winch, release the rode at the bow & haul. SNIP If I'm in a hurry, I'll lash the tiller amidships, put the engine in gear just enough to ease the tension slightly, then haul from the bow. Once we're *near* free, I'll walk back, kick the boat out of gear, then finish up on the anchor. It's easy to bring an anchor in from about 2:1 if there's any wave action, which you'll have in those winds. Thank you for your explanation. The last idea, I have tried with some success ... but my back does not like it ... Due to language problems on my part, I'm sure I fully understand your first procedure, because, I don't know, what a fairled is ... Sorry. Is it some kind of wheel og "thing", that keeps the rode/chain and the anchor free of the side/stern? What I find pretty difficult is not to scratch the glass fibre side (called freeboard?), when i use the winch for the spinaker/genua. Hauling from the bow, the rode and the anchor goes (almost) free of the sides of the boat. -- Flemming Torp Gimle/DEN-61 |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
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"Flemming Torp" fletopkanelbolle2rp.danmark skrev i en meddelelse . .. "Jere Lull" skrev i en meddelelse ... In article , "Flemming Torp" fletopkanelbolle2rp.danmark wrote: In the rare cases where we're leaving an anchorage in enough wind to make hauling difficult, either Pat twiddles the motor controls or I shift the rode to the stern and haul with the genny winch. How do you handle this situation, if you're the only person on the boat? I mean, how do you get the anchor in place with the chain/rode, without damaging the freeboard? Lead the free rode back to the aft fairlead and winch, release the rode at the bow & haul. SNIP If I'm in a hurry, I'll lash the tiller amidships, put the engine in gear just enough to ease the tension slightly, then haul from the bow. Once we're *near* free, I'll walk back, kick the boat out of gear, then finish up on the anchor. It's easy to bring an anchor in from about 2:1 if there's any wave action, which you'll have in those winds. Thank you for your explanation. The last idea, I have tried with some success ... but my back does not like it ... Due to language problems on my part, I'm sure I fully understand your Unfortunately, I've forgotten a not ... so the meaning is: I'm *not* sure I fully understand your .... sorry for the confusion ... first procedure, because, I don't know, what a fairled is ... Sorry. Is it some kind of wheel og "thing", that keeps the rode/chain and the anchor free of the side/stern? What I find pretty difficult is not to scratch the glass fibre side (called freeboard?), when i use the winch for the spinaker/genua. Hauling from the bow, the rode and the anchor goes (almost) free of the sides of the boat. -- Flemming Torp Gimle/DEN-61 |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
"Jere Lull" wrote:
Once we're *near* free, I'll walk back, kick the boat out of gear, then finish up on the anchor. It's easy to bring an anchor in from about 2:1 if there's any wave action, which you'll have in those winds. "Flemming Torp" wrote: Thank you for your explanation. The last idea, I have tried with some success ... but my back does not like it ... Don't use your back. Just take a wrap around the cleat or Sampson post or whatever you have there. Take up the slack as the bow falls and just hold the wrap as the bow rises. Let the boat do the back breaking work. Once the anchor pops free, you can haul it in no prob. Rick |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
skrev i en meddelelse ... "Jere Lull" wrote: Once we're *near* free, I'll walk back, kick the boat out of gear, then finish up on the anchor. It's easy to bring an anchor in from about 2:1 if there's any wave action, which you'll have in those winds. "Flemming Torp" wrote: Thank you for your explanation. The last idea, I have tried with some success ... but my back does not like it ... Don't use your back. Just take a wrap around the cleat or Sampson post or whatever you have there. Take up the slack as the bow falls and just hold the wrap as the bow rises. Let the boat do the back breaking work. Once the anchor pops free, you can haul it in no prob. Rick Sounds good to me - Agree ... though: The situation, I have in mind is something like wind/current from the bow corresponding to an effect of some 20 knots or more ... If you are anchoring at - say - 8 meters, and the engine helps you moving forward, then - even with a ratio of 2:1 - you still have to haul in about 15 meters of chain and the anchor - which under these circumstances often is "pretty much stuck" in the bottom ... As of now, I don't have a windlass at the bow, and it is not that easy - in my opinion - to wrap and unwrap the chain around the cleat ... But I admit, that's what I've been doing for years ... I do get your point about letting the waves and the movements of the boat do a lot of the work, but my experience is, that it can still be pretty hard work, before the chain is back in the "anchor room" (sorry don't know the correct maritime term in English) and the anchor is safely secured at the bow ... because, as soon the anchor slips the bottom, the boat starts drifting backwards ... and at that point, I still have some 8 meters of chain and an anchor to take care of (often accompanied by a lot of unwanted "stuff"), and at the same time, I don't have an awful lot of time to fix it all, before I have to be back at the helm to move the boat away from the other fellows at the anchorage ... That's why I'm looking into the possibility to install an electric windlass with a remote controller ... I'm sure my back would appreciate this investment ... some day ... and - in that case - I will feel much more comfortable leaving before the fellows anchoring behind me ... -- Flemming Torp Gimle/DEN-61 |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
"Flemming Torp" wrote:
even with a ratio of 2:1 - you still have to haul in about 15 meters of chain and the anchor - Yep. When it pops free, you have to be quick about it. Hand over hand, leave it in a pile on the deck and tidy up later. it is not that easy - in my opinion - to wrap and unwrap the chain around the cleat ... Granted.... rope is easier. as soon the anchor slips the bottom, the boat starts drifting backwards ... and at that point, I still have some 8 meters of chain and an anchor to take care of Another tactic I've used in a tight situation, take in as much rode as you can without breaking the anchor free. Then, veeery slowly, drive over the top of it and just keep right on going, bouncing the anchor along the bottom, being careful to not foul it in your prop, until you have room to drift while you properly take care of the anchor. Obviously, all sorts of things can go wrong doing this, but desperate times call for desperate measures. I've resorted to it a number of times when there was simply no other way. Rick |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
skrev i en meddelelse ... "Flemming Torp" wrote: even with a ratio of 2:1 - you still have to haul in about 15 meters of chain and the anchor - Yep. When it pops free, you have to be quick about it. Hand over hand, leave it in a pile on the deck and tidy up later. it is not that easy - in my opinion - to wrap and unwrap the chain around the cleat ... Granted.... rope is easier. as soon the anchor slips the bottom, the boat starts drifting backwards ... and at that point, I still have some 8 meters of chain and an anchor to take care of Another tactic I've used in a tight situation, take in as much rode as you can without breaking the anchor free. Then, veeery slowly, drive over the top of it and just keep right on going, bouncing the anchor along the bottom, being careful to not foul it in your prop, until you have room to drift while you properly take care of the anchor. Obviously, all sorts of things can go wrong doing this, but desperate times call for desperate measures. I've resorted to it a number of times when there was simply no other way. Rick Been there, done that ... But I'm certainly not at all comfortable about this procedure. But as you say ... "desperate times etc." ... And that "trick" isn't exactly what Roger Long is recommending, I'm sure ... ;o) .... Anyway, isn't it exactly in one of these situations Murphy shows up and teaches us: "What can go wrong ... will"??? I'm afraid it is not a question of if ... but when ... hasn't happend yet ... but ... -- Flemming Torp Gimle/DEN-61 |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
"Flemming Torp" fletopkanelbolle2rp.danmark wrote in message . .. skrev i en meddelelse ... "Flemming Torp" wrote: even with a ratio of 2:1 - you still have to haul in about 15 meters of chain and the anchor - Yep. When it pops free, you have to be quick about it. Hand over hand, leave it in a pile on the deck and tidy up later. it is not that easy - in my opinion - to wrap and unwrap the chain around the cleat ... Granted.... rope is easier. as soon the anchor slips the bottom, the boat starts drifting backwards ... and at that point, I still have some 8 meters of chain and an anchor to take care of Another tactic I've used in a tight situation, take in as much rode as you can without breaking the anchor free. Then, veeery slowly, drive over the top of it and just keep right on going, bouncing the anchor along the bottom, being careful to not foul it in your prop, until you have room to drift while you properly take care of the anchor. Obviously, all sorts of things can go wrong doing this, but desperate times call for desperate measures. I've resorted to it a number of times when there was simply no other way. Rick Been there, done that ... But I'm certainly not at all comfortable about this procedure. But as you say ... "desperate times etc." ... And that "trick" isn't exactly what Roger Long is recommending, I'm sure ... ;o) ... Anyway, isn't it exactly in one of these situations Murphy shows up and teaches us: "What can go wrong ... will"??? I'm afraid it is not a question of if ... but when ... hasn't happend yet ... but ... -- Flemming Torp Gimle/DEN-61 Ya, this can work really good until you pass over that submerged wreck, eh? |
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