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Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:53:38 -0600, Geoff Schultz
wrote: I'm a firm believer that if I can pull the anchor out with the motor, then a good blow can do it too. Absolutely right, and sooner or later it will happen. |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
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Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:53:38 -0600, Geoff Schultz wrote: I'm a firm believer that if I can pull the anchor out with the motor, then a good blow can do it too. Absolutely right, and sooner or later it will happen. Wayne, I hate to betray my ignorance, but I thought anchors were designed to work so they held due to design and angle of pull and were simultaneously designed to be relatively easy to retrieve by pulling them straight up. If such is the case, shouldn't setting an anchor with an engine be icing on the cake even in a blow (assuming the anchor is suited to the bottom and weight/design of the boat, the chain is sufficient to keep the angle correct, the scope is sufficient to maintain the correct angle, the rode is strong enough not to give, and the shackles designed for the load)? harlan -- To respond, obviously drop the "nospan"? |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:22:27 -0500, Harlan Lachman
wrote: I'm a firm believer that if I can pull the anchor out with the motor, then a good blow can do it too. Absolutely right, and sooner or later it will happen. Wayne, I hate to betray my ignorance, but I thought anchors were designed to work so they held due to design and angle of pull and were simultaneously designed to be relatively easy to retrieve by pulling them straight up. If such is the case, shouldn't setting an anchor with an engine be icing on the cake even in a blow (assuming the anchor is suited to the bottom and weight/design of the boat, the chain is sufficient to keep the angle correct, the scope is sufficient to maintain the correct angle, the rode is strong enough not to give, and the shackles designed for the load)? Harlan, I'm not sure of your experience level so I'll give you a straight answer. The trick is to ensure that the anchor is set properly, i.e., firmly dug in. Having the right anchor, rode and scope is a good start - but if the anchor is not set properly all is for naught. The whole reason for backing down under power is to ensure that it will hold under load. There are many reasons for an anchor not setting - difficult bottom conditions, wrong anchor type for bottom, anchor landing in a fouled position for some reason, etc, etc. Unless you test the anchor by putting a load on it, you really don't know for sure if you are OK or not. |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
Geoff Schultz wrote:
I'm a firm believer that if I can pull the anchor out with the motor, then a good blow can do it too. All depends how you set the anchor as well as how you try to pull it out with the engine. Lew |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
On Feb 17, 12:32 pm, Harlan Lachman wrote:
I have been intrigued by the discussion of anchoring -- When by my self I flake 4:1 chain on the deck with the 45lb plow in the cock pit. Slow down and give a toss. On retrieval ? motor up...... push my black button............ motor up....... push my black button......etc. with the anchor hanging on the whats-it I motor away later to secure anchor on boat. The secrect is the magic button in the cockpit. Bob |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:53:38 -0600, Geoff Schultz wrote: I'm a firm believer that if I can pull the anchor out with the motor, then a good blow can do it too. Absolutely right, and sooner or later it will happen. And do all you guys start the engine and pull at your anchor when the tide turns, the boat swings, the anchor trips and resets? Happens about every six hours where I anchor. |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
"Wayne.B" wrote Harlan, I'm not sure of your experience level so I'll give you a straight answer. The trick is to ensure that the anchor is set properly, i.e., firmly dug in. Having the right anchor, rode and scope is a good start - but if the anchor is not set properly all is for naught. The whole reason for backing down under power is to ensure that it will hold under load. Backing down under power is certainly good a good practice. I do it myself when the engine is running even though it isn't a very conclusive test on my boat. This brings up an interesting historical question which I hope one of the history buffs among us can answer. What did sailing vessels do before power? Dragging is even more serious in an unpowered vessel for obvious reasons. -- Roger Long |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
Roger Long wrote:
.... This brings up an interesting historical question which I hope one of the history buffs among us can answer. What did sailing vessels do before power? Dragging is even more serious in an unpowered vessel for obvious reasons. They used proper anchors like these on a small boat: http://www.sv-moonshadow.com/liveabo..._killicks.html |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:36:02 -0500, "Roger Long"
wrote: This brings up an interesting historical question which I hope one of the history buffs among us can answer. What did sailing vessels do before power? Dragging is even more serious in an unpowered vessel for obvious reasons. Interesting question. Those ships had a lot of windage of course, and my guess is that they relied on wind, tide, heavy anchors, lots of chain, and last but not least, a constant look out. They had a lot of man power on those boats and knew how to use it effectively. The captains of course knew that they would be court martialed and probably lose their career if the ship was damaged. The look outs knew that they could rely on a cat-o-nine tails flogging or a keel hauling if they were found negligent in their duties. Those were powerful incentives to getting the job done correctly. Small boats without power can always back their main sail against the wind by holding the boom out. |
Single Handed Anchoring off the bow
Roger ,, what did the sailing vessels do? If your talking large ship, then
your talking big/heavy/anchor. I watched a couple of the schooners anchor last June [?], up near Boothbay and the anchor was a monster. Once that thing hit the bottom, that was it. As for smaller vessels. Like my own.... I try to be very picky about the ground. This can be a trying time when single handing. I try to find a spot with lots of room, very deliberately set the anchor ............. And then hope like hell the darn thing sets. The picking up ..??? That is a subject that should be covered. ============================================== "Roger Long" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote Harlan, I'm not sure of your experience level so I'll give you a straight answer. The trick is to ensure that the anchor is set properly, i.e., firmly dug in. Having the right anchor, rode and scope is a good start - but if the anchor is not set properly all is for naught. The whole reason for backing down under power is to ensure that it will hold under load. Backing down under power is certainly good a good practice. I do it myself when the engine is running even though it isn't a very conclusive test on my boat. This brings up an interesting historical question which I hope one of the history buffs among us can answer. What did sailing vessels do before power? Dragging is even more serious in an unpowered vessel for obvious reasons. -- Roger Long |
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