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Keys Boat Works, or, Pirates of the Caribbean (well, close, anyway)
On Feb 15, 9:08 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... "Skip Gundlach" wrote in oups.com: effectively $500 a week Isn't this the same reason, insurance paying, that a hospital bed to just lay there and die is $400/day and every doctor in the building comes by to "say hi" and charges $250 every time he pokes his head in the door and smiles at you. (Every doctor in Orangeburg, SC, pulled this crap on my father who was dying at Orangeburg Regional Medical Center, a profit center for the medical profession to be sure. It's how doctors afford yachts, waterfront mansions, fancy cars, cruises to exotic places.... I call it "victimization". You're in a position of helplessness and "they", be they doctors or lawyers or boatyards or tradesmen you are forced by circumstances to hire quickly to fix something threatening your home....feeding at the insurance and victims' tits, sucking as hard as they can for as long as they can milk it. CEOs do the same thing to the stockholders....sucking as hard as they can on the company's tit, milking it for all they can get, until they either get fired and move on to the next board meeting or drive the company, like Enron, into bankruptcy. It's the American way! This boatyard is sucking on it just as hard as any of the rest of the milksuckers.....like bankers. Larry -- It's almost as if everyone expects the gravy train to end soon and they have to grab as much for themselves as possible. Where's the long term planning? If the Big 3 American car manufacturers are doing do badly, why are their CEOs hauling in so much money? The whole system is rotten and our children will pay for it. "Somebody" should call the yard and ask them to relay a message from his insurance company to Skip Gundlach that coverage beyond 3 more days is being denied. Even if the yard calls the insurance company back I bet they will have sufficient doubt that they WANT to get rid of Flying Pig ASAP. |
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Keys Boat Works, or, Pirates of the Caribbean (well, close, anyway)
Don ,,, I may be going over to the other side ,, but... in my opinion, our
country is on the brink of coming apart. Everything is broken, the whole system. Health care, the government spending, the war in Iraq, our industys, .... Great speech by Bill Moyers recently.. read it ,, you can find it on the net. Powerful stuff. ================= "Don White" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote in message ... "Skip Gundlach" wrote in ups.com: effectively $500 a week Isn't this the same reason, insurance paying, that a hospital bed to just lay there and die is $400/day and every doctor in the building comes by to "say hi" and charges $250 every time he pokes his head in the door and smiles at you. (Every doctor in Orangeburg, SC, pulled this crap on my father who was dying at Orangeburg Regional Medical Center, a profit center for the medical profession to be sure. It's how doctors afford yachts, waterfront mansions, fancy cars, cruises to exotic places.... I call it "victimization". You're in a position of helplessness and "they", be they doctors or lawyers or boatyards or tradesmen you are forced by circumstances to hire quickly to fix something threatening your home....feeding at the insurance and victims' tits, sucking as hard as they can for as long as they can milk it. CEOs do the same thing to the stockholders....sucking as hard as they can on the company's tit, milking it for all they can get, until they either get fired and move on to the next board meeting or drive the company, like Enron, into bankruptcy. It's the American way! This boatyard is sucking on it just as hard as any of the rest of the milksuckers.....like bankers. Larry -- It's almost as if everyone expects the gravy train to end soon and they have to grab as much for themselves as possible. Where's the long term planning? If the Big 3 American car manufacturers are doing do badly, why are their CEOs hauling in so much money? The whole system is rotten and our children will pay for it. |
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Keys Boat Works, or, Pirates of the Caribbean (well, close, anyway)
I remember in '75 when the country was coming apart. Plenty of people
said the country couldn't last five years the way things were going. The ecomomy was supposed to collapse if nuclear war didn't get us first. Stephen NE Sailboat wrote: Don ,,, I may be going over to the other side ,, but... in my opinion, our country is on the brink of coming apart. Everything is broken, the whole system. Health care, the government spending, the war in Iraq, our industys, .... Great speech by Bill Moyers recently.. read it ,, you can find it on the net. Powerful stuff. ================= "Don White" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote in message . .. "Skip Gundlach" wrote in groups.com: effectively $500 a week Isn't this the same reason, insurance paying, that a hospital bed to just lay there and die is $400/day and every doctor in the building comes by to "say hi" and charges $250 every time he pokes his head in the door and smiles at you. (Every doctor in Orangeburg, SC, pulled this crap on my father who was dying at Orangeburg Regional Medical Center, a profit center for the medical profession to be sure. It's how doctors afford yachts, waterfront mansions, fancy cars, cruises to exotic places.... I call it "victimization". You're in a position of helplessness and "they", be they doctors or lawyers or boatyards or tradesmen you are forced by circumstances to hire quickly to fix something threatening your home....feeding at the insurance and victims' tits, sucking as hard as they can for as long as they can milk it. CEOs do the same thing to the stockholders....sucking as hard as they can on the company's tit, milking it for all they can get, until they either get fired and move on to the next board meeting or drive the company, like Enron, into bankruptcy. It's the American way! This boatyard is sucking on it just as hard as any of the rest of the milksuckers.....like bankers. Larry -- It's almost as if everyone expects the gravy train to end soon and they have to grab as much for themselves as possible. Where's the long term planning? If the Big 3 American car manufacturers are doing do badly, why are their CEOs hauling in so much money? The whole system is rotten and our children will pay for it. |
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Keys Boat Works, or, Pirates of the Caribbean (well, close, anyway)
Stephen,, we are in a whole lot worse off shape than 1975.
Never in our history has the difference in wealth between the rich and the poor ( all of the rest of America ) but so great. We have millions of illegals running around and the federal government won't even protect the border and enforce the immigration laws. Then there is the mess in the middle east. Oh, I forgot... check out what the government is spending and the debt it is amassing. Do you think a bank in the USA would get away with giving illegals who have entered our county by sneaking in a credit card .. Do you think that would happen in 1975? It is happening now! Bank of America. I sorry to say it,, but I really don't give us much of a chance to continue. ============= "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... I remember in '75 when the country was coming apart. Plenty of people said the country couldn't last five years the way things were going. The ecomomy was supposed to collapse if nuclear war didn't get us first. Stephen NE Sailboat wrote: Don ,,, I may be going over to the other side ,, but... in my opinion, our country is on the brink of coming apart. Everything is broken, the whole system. Health care, the government spending, the war in Iraq, our industys, .... Great speech by Bill Moyers recently.. read it ,, you can find it on the net. Powerful stuff. ================= "Don White" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote in message ... "Skip Gundlach" wrote in egroups.com: effectively $500 a week Isn't this the same reason, insurance paying, that a hospital bed to just lay there and die is $400/day and every doctor in the building comes by to "say hi" and charges $250 every time he pokes his head in the door and smiles at you. (Every doctor in Orangeburg, SC, pulled this crap on my father who was dying at Orangeburg Regional Medical Center, a profit center for the medical profession to be sure. It's how doctors afford yachts, waterfront mansions, fancy cars, cruises to exotic places.... I call it "victimization". You're in a position of helplessness and "they", be they doctors or lawyers or boatyards or tradesmen you are forced by circumstances to hire quickly to fix something threatening your home....feeding at the insurance and victims' tits, sucking as hard as they can for as long as they can milk it. CEOs do the same thing to the stockholders....sucking as hard as they can on the company's tit, milking it for all they can get, until they either get fired and move on to the next board meeting or drive the company, like Enron, into bankruptcy. It's the American way! This boatyard is sucking on it just as hard as any of the rest of the milksuckers.....like bankers. Larry -- It's almost as if everyone expects the gravy train to end soon and they have to grab as much for themselves as possible. Where's the long term planning? If the Big 3 American car manufacturers are doing do badly, why are their CEOs hauling in so much money? The whole system is rotten and our children will pay for it. |
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On Feb 15, 12:36 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
I sorry to say it,, but I really don't give us much of a chance to continue. History has shown... nothing lasts forever. If not in 10 yrs, then in a 100, ... Tom |
#16
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Keys Boat Works, or, Pirates of the Caribbean (well, close, anyway)
NE Sailboat wrote:
Stephen,, we are in a whole lot worse off shape than 1975. Never in our history has the difference in wealth between the rich and the poor ( all of the rest of America ) but so great. We have millions of illegals running around and the federal government won't even protect the border and enforce the immigration laws. Then there is the mess in the middle east. Oh, I forgot... check out what the government is spending and the debt it is amassing. Do you think a bank in the USA would get away with giving illegals who have entered our county by sneaking in a credit card .. Do you think that would happen in 1975? It is happening now! Bank of America. I sorry to say it,, but I really don't give us much of a chance to continue. Well, there was massive doom and gloom in the seventies. Plenty of "experts" would go on and on about how the level of inflation definitely would result in a massive collapse in less than five years, guaranteed. My family left Hawaii where we lived to get to a place where we could live off the land and survive during a collapse. And of course anyone who was around then can remember how inevitable nuclear annhilation was, considering the massive buildup and how we had enough armament to blow up the world "300 times over." As we can all see now, there has been drastic improvement in these areas since then. Since then I've been much more aware of the ways our society is improving and much more aware of how all the supposed "decline" that is occuring is actually more of a temporary blip in history, because mankind has an overwhelming desire and ability to improve their lot. Stephen "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... I remember in '75 when the country was coming apart. Plenty of people said the country couldn't last five years the way things were going. The ecomomy was supposed to collapse if nuclear war didn't get us first. Stephen NE Sailboat wrote: Don ,,, I may be going over to the other side ,, but... in my opinion, our country is on the brink of coming apart. Everything is broken, the whole system. Health care, the government spending, the war in Iraq, our industys, .... Great speech by Bill Moyers recently.. read it ,, you can find it on the net. Powerful stuff. ================= "Don White" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote in message 3... "Skip Gundlach" wrote in legroups.com: effectively $500 a week Isn't this the same reason, insurance paying, that a hospital bed to just lay there and die is $400/day and every doctor in the building comes by to "say hi" and charges $250 every time he pokes his head in the door and smiles at you. (Every doctor in Orangeburg, SC, pulled this crap on my father who was dying at Orangeburg Regional Medical Center, a profit center for the medical profession to be sure. It's how doctors afford yachts, waterfront mansions, fancy cars, cruises to exotic places.... I call it "victimization". You're in a position of helplessness and "they", be they doctors or lawyers or boatyards or tradesmen you are forced by circumstances to hire quickly to fix something threatening your home....feeding at the insurance and victims' tits, sucking as hard as they can for as long as they can milk it. CEOs do the same thing to the stockholders....sucking as hard as they can on the company's tit, milking it for all they can get, until they either get fired and move on to the next board meeting or drive the company, like Enron, into bankruptcy. It's the American way! This boatyard is sucking on it just as hard as any of the rest of the milksuckers.....like bankers. Larry -- It's almost as if everyone expects the gravy train to end soon and they have to grab as much for themselves as possible. Where's the long term planning? If the Big 3 American car manufacturers are doing do badly, why are their CEOs hauling in so much money? The whole system is rotten and our children will pay for it. |
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Keys Boat Works, or, Pirates of the Caribbean (well, close, anyway)
Stephen ,, I don't worry about threats from the outside of America. We, us,
can take care of them. We are declining from within. The inequity of rich to poor, of government to private sector ( take a look at pensions ), of those who can afford the best schools and those who must accept schools that are totally useless. Don't you find it crazy that the politicians who are making decisions about public education never send their own kids to public school? Ted Kennedy comes to mind here. In 1975 we faced nuclear power such as Russia and the cold war. Today we destroying ourselfs. We are crumbling from the inside. Those that have don't care about the folks at the bottom. Take a look at Walmart. The auto makers are going out of business in the USA, they are building cars in China though. And as the taxes go up and up and the middle class disappears, government continues to give out huge pensions, and keep on spending. Stephen ,, we are killing ourselves. ================================ "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... NE Sailboat wrote: Stephen,, we are in a whole lot worse off shape than 1975. Never in our history has the difference in wealth between the rich and the poor ( all of the rest of America ) but so great. We have millions of illegals running around and the federal government won't even protect the border and enforce the immigration laws. Then there is the mess in the middle east. Oh, I forgot... check out what the government is spending and the debt it is amassing. Do you think a bank in the USA would get away with giving illegals who have entered our county by sneaking in a credit card .. Do you think that would happen in 1975? It is happening now! Bank of America. I sorry to say it,, but I really don't give us much of a chance to continue. Well, there was massive doom and gloom in the seventies. Plenty of "experts" would go on and on about how the level of inflation definitely would result in a massive collapse in less than five years, guaranteed. My family left Hawaii where we lived to get to a place where we could live off the land and survive during a collapse. And of course anyone who was around then can remember how inevitable nuclear annhilation was, considering the massive buildup and how we had enough armament to blow up the world "300 times over." As we can all see now, there has been drastic improvement in these areas since then. Since then I've been much more aware of the ways our society is improving and much more aware of how all the supposed "decline" that is occuring is actually more of a temporary blip in history, because mankind has an overwhelming desire and ability to improve their lot. Stephen "Stephen Trapani" wrote in message ... I remember in '75 when the country was coming apart. Plenty of people said the country couldn't last five years the way things were going. The ecomomy was supposed to collapse if nuclear war didn't get us first. Stephen NE Sailboat wrote: Don ,,, I may be going over to the other side ,, but... in my opinion, our country is on the brink of coming apart. Everything is broken, the whole system. Health care, the government spending, the war in Iraq, our industys, .... Great speech by Bill Moyers recently.. read it ,, you can find it on the net. Powerful stuff. ================= "Don White" wrote in message ... "Larry" wrote in message 53... "Skip Gundlach" wrote in glegroups.com: effectively $500 a week Isn't this the same reason, insurance paying, that a hospital bed to just lay there and die is $400/day and every doctor in the building comes by to "say hi" and charges $250 every time he pokes his head in the door and smiles at you. (Every doctor in Orangeburg, SC, pulled this crap on my father who was dying at Orangeburg Regional Medical Center, a profit center for the medical profession to be sure. It's how doctors afford yachts, waterfront mansions, fancy cars, cruises to exotic places.... I call it "victimization". You're in a position of helplessness and "they", be they doctors or lawyers or boatyards or tradesmen you are forced by circumstances to hire quickly to fix something threatening your home....feeding at the insurance and victims' tits, sucking as hard as they can for as long as they can milk it. CEOs do the same thing to the stockholders....sucking as hard as they can on the company's tit, milking it for all they can get, until they either get fired and move on to the next board meeting or drive the company, like Enron, into bankruptcy. It's the American way! This boatyard is sucking on it just as hard as any of the rest of the milksuckers.....like bankers. Larry -- It's almost as if everyone expects the gravy train to end soon and they have to grab as much for themselves as possible. Where's the long term planning? If the Big 3 American car manufacturers are doing do badly, why are their CEOs hauling in so much money? The whole system is rotten and our children will pay for it. |
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"NE Sailboat" wrote in
news:Sf6Bh.4960$H77.944@trndny08: And as the taxes go up and up and the middle class disappears, government continues to give out huge pensions, and keep on spending. Here's how bad it is: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ 8.724 Trillion dollars "The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.57 billion per day since September 29, 2006!" Noone will listen when I say the root cause of American collapse is the Federal Reserve Bankers! They have consumed the country and stolen the gold. It's gone and cannot be recovered without bloody revolution...just like every other time in history. Here. Watch the problem screwing up another TRILLION+ since October 1, 2006...just since then! http://www.toptips.com/debtclock.html Interest now consumes more than income from ALL of Federal Income Taxes. How long can this go on without massive extinction? Can we just keep printing those checks and wishing for the future with our heads up our asses? The 1930 dollar is worth 4 cents in 2007. The bankers did it, stupids! The Federal Reserve Bank Corporation, owned by the elite of the elite. Larry -- Vista has been out a week. Is Service Pack 1 ready yet? |
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I dunno. I think Congress did most of it.
Check out Robt. Samuelson's column in this week's Newsweek and some newspapers. Better than 60% of the budget goes to "untouchable" "entitlements". "Larry" wrote in message ... "NE Sailboat" wrote in news:Sf6Bh.4960$H77.944@trndny08: And as the taxes go up and up and the middle class disappears, government continues to give out huge pensions, and keep on spending. Here's how bad it is: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ 8.724 Trillion dollars "The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.57 billion per day since September 29, 2006!" Noone will listen when I say the root cause of American collapse is the Federal Reserve Bankers! They have consumed the country and stolen the gold. It's gone and cannot be recovered without bloody revolution...just like every other time in history. Here. Watch the problem screwing up another TRILLION+ since October 1, 2006...just since then! http://www.toptips.com/debtclock.html Interest now consumes more than income from ALL of Federal Income Taxes. How long can this go on without massive extinction? Can we just keep printing those checks and wishing for the future with our heads up our asses? The 1930 dollar is worth 4 cents in 2007. The bankers did it, stupids! The Federal Reserve Bank Corporation, owned by the elite of the elite. Larry -- Vista has been out a week. Is Service Pack 1 ready yet? |
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In article ,
Larry wrote: "NE Sailboat" wrote in news:Sf6Bh.4960$H77.944@trndny08: And as the taxes go up and up and the middle class disappears, government continues to give out huge pensions, and keep on spending. Here's how bad it is: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ 8.724 Trillion dollars "The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.57 billion per day since September 29, 2006!" No one will listen when I say the root cause of American collapse is the Federal Reserve Bankers! They have consumed the country and stolen the gold. It's gone and cannot be recovered without bloody revolution...just like every other time in history. Guys and gals, I won't debate this subject, but offer that many of us carry primary mortgages well in excess of our annual income, and that's not generally considered a bad thing. (I admit that rec.boats.cruising is atypical.) The total national debt is a much smaller fraction of the US gross income (GNP) than most of us carry personally. A slight difference of dollar value would wipe that debt out, as occurred in the Clinton years. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's NEW Pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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