Is the Olin gun/case/flares kit adequate ?

Thank you.
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC

I have found that flare gun kits are not adequate for distress. I went with
the MSD-1. I like hand held parachute flares over the gun style.
Perfect for when you are offshore 50 miles from coastline, this flare kit
also includes Polybottle so that you can store the contents of the kit, with
room for other items such as cell phone, camera, or wallet. Kit Includes: 6
USCG Approved Red Hand Distress Flares,3 USCG Approved Red Hand Held
Parachute Flares,3 USCG Approved 3 Minute Floating Orange Smoke Signals, 1
Yellow Wide Mouth Polybottle Please Note: Freight Charge $50.00 Hazmat Plus
Federal Express Overnight Rates apply.
Price: $ 329.95

ORC also makes a great kit.

Kit Includes:4 USCG Approved Red Hand Distress Flares,4 USCG Approved Red
Hand Held Parachute Flares,4 Collision Warning White Hand Flares,2 USCG
Approved 3 Minute Floating Orange Smoke Signals 1 Yellow Wide Mouth
Polybottle Please Note: Freight Charge $50.00 Hazmat Plus Federal Express
Overnight Rates apply.

Price: $ 289.95

Federal Regulations

Area Devices Required
Ocean, greater than 50 miles from coastline 3 Parachute flares,
approval service 46 CFR 160.136; plus 6 hand flares, approval series 46 CFR
160.121; plus 3 smoke signals, approval series 46 CFR 160.122.
Ocean, 3-50 miles from the coastline; or more than 3 miles from the
coastline on the Great Lakes 3 Parachute flares approval series 46 CFR
160.136, or 160.036; plus 6 hand flares, approval series 46 CFR 160.121 or
160.021; plus 3 smoke signals, approval series 46 CFR 160.122, 160.022, or
160.037.
Coastal waters, excluding the Great Lakes; or within 3 miles of the
coastline on the Great Lakes 3 Approved flares, and 3 approved smoke
signals. If flares are carried, the same 3 flares may be counted toward both
the day and night requirement.



Jack

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
Is the Olin gun/case/flares kit adequate ?

Thank you.
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC

Jack,

Having no experience with either, why do you prefer the handheld ?

Also, what is a source(s) for flare guns that are adequate, please ?

I have some interest in the flare guns as well for possible personal
protection since firearms are prohibited, basically.

Appreciatively,

Courtney



Jack Rye wrote:
I have found that flare gun kits are not adequate for distress. I went with
the MSD-1. I like hand held parachute flares over the gun style.
Perfect for when you are offshore 50 miles from coastline, this flare kit
also includes Polybottle so that you can store the contents of the kit, with
room for other items such as cell phone, camera, or wallet. Kit Includes: 6
USCG Approved Red Hand Distress Flares,3 USCG Approved Red Hand Held
Parachute Flares,3 USCG Approved 3 Minute Floating Orange Smoke Signals, 1
Yellow Wide Mouth Polybottle Please Note: Freight Charge $50.00 Hazmat Plus
Federal Express Overnight Rates apply.
Price: $ 329.95

ORC also makes a great kit.

Kit Includes:4 USCG Approved Red Hand Distress Flares,4 USCG Approved Red
Hand Held Parachute Flares,4 Collision Warning White Hand Flares,2 USCG
Approved 3 Minute Floating Orange Smoke Signals 1 Yellow Wide Mouth
Polybottle Please Note: Freight Charge $50.00 Hazmat Plus Federal Express
Overnight Rates apply.

Price: $ 289.95

Federal Regulations

Area Devices Required
Ocean, greater than 50 miles from coastline 3 Parachute flares,
approval service 46 CFR 160.136; plus 6 hand flares, approval series 46 CFR
160.121; plus 3 smoke signals, approval series 46 CFR 160.122.
Ocean, 3-50 miles from the coastline; or more than 3 miles from the
coastline on the Great Lakes 3 Parachute flares approval series 46 CFR
160.136, or 160.036; plus 6 hand flares, approval series 46 CFR 160.121 or
160.021; plus 3 smoke signals, approval series 46 CFR 160.122, 160.022, or
160.037.
Coastal waters, excluding the Great Lakes; or within 3 miles of the
coastline on the Great Lakes 3 Approved flares, and 3 approved smoke
signals. If flares are carried, the same 3 flares may be counted toward both
the day and night requirement.



Jack

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...

Is the Olin gun/case/flares kit adequate ?

Thank you.
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC





--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC

I have just never like the plastic guns for shooting off flares. I have had
a few miss fires and they don't go up as high as hand held ones. I have
also found that the gun cases are not water proof. When it comes to my
safety I rely on hand held flares. I have never had problem with them. Yes
they are more expensive then a flare gun kit. But when it comes to survival
I prefer to have the best.

Jack
Oyster 56 still in the pacific.

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
Jack,

Having no experience with either, why do you prefer the handheld ?

Also, what is a source(s) for flare guns that are adequate, please ?

I have some interest in the flare guns as well for possible personal
protection since firearms are prohibited, basically.

Appreciatively,

Courtney



Jack Rye wrote:
I have found that flare gun kits are not adequate for distress. I went
with
the MSD-1. I like hand held parachute flares over the gun style.
Perfect for when you are offshore 50 miles from coastline, this flare
kit
also includes Polybottle so that you can store the contents of the kit,
with
room for other items such as cell phone, camera, or wallet. Kit
Includes: 6
USCG Approved Red Hand Distress Flares,3 USCG Approved Red Hand Held
Parachute Flares,3 USCG Approved 3 Minute Floating Orange Smoke Signals,
1
Yellow Wide Mouth Polybottle Please Note: Freight Charge $50.00 Hazmat
Plus
Federal Express Overnight Rates apply.
Price: $ 329.95

ORC also makes a great kit.

Kit Includes:4 USCG Approved Red Hand Distress Flares,4 USCG Approved
Red
Hand Held Parachute Flares,4 Collision Warning White Hand Flares,2 USCG
Approved 3 Minute Floating Orange Smoke Signals 1 Yellow Wide Mouth
Polybottle Please Note: Freight Charge $50.00 Hazmat Plus Federal
Express
Overnight Rates apply.

Price: $ 289.95

Federal Regulations

Area Devices Required
Ocean, greater than 50 miles from coastline 3 Parachute flares,
approval service 46 CFR 160.136; plus 6 hand flares, approval series 46
CFR
160.121; plus 3 smoke signals, approval series 46 CFR 160.122.
Ocean, 3-50 miles from the coastline; or more than 3 miles from
the
coastline on the Great Lakes 3 Parachute flares approval series 46 CFR
160.136, or 160.036; plus 6 hand flares, approval series 46 CFR 160.121
or
160.021; plus 3 smoke signals, approval series 46 CFR 160.122, 160.022,
or
160.037.
Coastal waters, excluding the Great Lakes; or within 3 miles of
the
coastline on the Great Lakes 3 Approved flares, and 3 approved smoke
signals. If flares are carried, the same 3 flares may be counted toward
both
the day and night requirement.



Jack

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...

Is the Olin gun/case/flares kit adequate ?

Thank you.
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC





--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC

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Jack Rye .# wrote:
I have just never like the plastic guns for shooting off flares. I have had
a few miss fires and they don't go up as high as hand held ones. I have
also found that the gun cases are not water proof. When it comes to my
safety I rely on hand held flares. I have never had problem with them. Yes
they are more expensive then a flare gun kit. But when it comes to survival
I prefer to have the best.

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Might want to see if you can find one of the old USN metal 12ga ones.
Look like a single barreled shotgun pistol. We have one, works like a
champ. Haven't had the gumption to tie it to a plank with a string on
the trigger, and fire off a low base 12ga birdshot round yet, but I am
thinking about it

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Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
If something is so complicated that you can't explain it in 10 seconds, then
it's probably not worth knowing anyway. -- Calvin

It seems that the height of the shoot and the brightness are limited
somewhat by the flare being handheld. Does anyone make a larger flare
that you strap to the deck and fire? We have all seen (I presume)
large fireworks that shoot very high and have a very bright explosion.
Why couldn't we have an emergency flare like that? Probably
prohibitively expensive. If you will pardon the joke, fireworks
aren't rocket science. G Actually they are very simple. Wonder if
a person could build some for him/herself. Of course they would not
be counted by the USCG or your local equivalent, but the point would
be to safe your life. Just wondering and interested in the thoughts
of the other posters.

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove
lying Sea Gate Marina
Beaufort, NC

Not really a bad idea, if you can keep them dry. Fireworks at sea are an
internationally recognized distress signal. That's why you never see the
cruise ships firing them on July 4!

Of course, until you've fired or seen a parachute flare, you really don't
appreciate them. The cylinder houses a rocket.

"Lee Huddleston" wrote in message
...
It seems that the height of the shoot and the brightness are limited
somewhat by the flare being handheld. Does anyone make a larger flare
that you strap to the deck and fire? We have all seen (I presume)
large fireworks that shoot very high and have a very bright explosion.
Why couldn't we have an emergency flare like that? Probably
prohibitively expensive. If you will pardon the joke, fireworks
aren't rocket science. G Actually they are very simple. Wonder if
a person could build some for him/herself. Of course they would not
be counted by the USCG or your local equivalent, but the point would
be to safe your life. Just wondering and interested in the thoughts
of the other posters.

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove
lying Sea Gate Marina
Beaufort, NC

I carry the Olin 25mm kit. Seems to be adequate, but I also carry \handheld
parachute flare, smoke canisters, as well. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

Doug
s/v Callista

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
Is the Olin gun/case/flares kit adequate ?

Thank you.
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC

Where'd you buy said items ?

Thank you.

Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. Seems to be adequate, but I also carry \handheld
parachute flare, smoke canisters, as well. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

Doug
s/v Callista

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...

Is the Olin gun/case/flares kit adequate ?

Thank you.
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC





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Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC

It's been over a year since I looked at them, I don't remember
the website that was carrying them. Just do a few searches.
You might try lookiing through the old messages from this newsgroup.
There has been quite a bit of discussion about them in the past. I'll
poke around a bit asnd see if I can rediscover them.

Doug

ps. I have been told that flareguns are poor for self defense. Just
bounce off of people.

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
Where'd you buy said items ?

Thank you.

Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. Seems to be adequate, but I also carry
\handheld
parachute flare, smoke canisters, as well. The 25mm gun will also accept
the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

Doug
s/v Callista

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...

Is the Olin gun/case/flares kit adequate ?

Thank you.
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC





--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC