Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the 16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

Anybody know offhand what "gauge" 25mm equates to?

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:58:47 -0400, Vito wrote
(with possible editing):

Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the 16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

Anybody know offhand what "gauge" 25mm equates to?

No, but 25mm is about an inch. 12 gauge is about 3/4". Of course,
the kick will be largely dependant upon the powder charge. I have
25mm flares, but I've yet to fire one, so I don't know how bad they
are. The small(ish) gun fires both regular and parachute flares, the
latter having what amounts to its own barrel. I can't imagine they
would be wicked bad - they are supposed to be a safety device!

--

Larry
Email to rapp at lmr dot com

Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the 16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

Anybody know offhand what "gauge" 25mm equates to?

No, but 25mm is about an inch. 12 gauge is about 3/4". Of course,
the kick will be largely dependant upon the powder charge. I have
25mm flares, but I've yet to fire one, so I don't know how bad they
are. The small(ish) gun fires both regular and parachute flares, the
latter having what amounts to its own barrel. I can't imagine they
would be wicked bad - they are supposed to be a safety device!

--
I carry on board a metal 25mm flair gun. The kick from these is not very bad. I
would be interested in hearing from anyone who has actually used one of the
inserts that were advertised to shoot shotgun shells from flair guns. The ad's
I remember seeing, didn't say anything about not using them in a plastic gun.
K

I've never seen a plastic 25mm flare pistol. A 16ga shotgun shell doesn't
have that much of a kick anyway. Also, the adapter was machined out of solid
stainless and had
some heft, about 1/4" wall thickness. I doubt that it would kick that much.
I'm kicking myself for not buying one of the adapters while I had the
chance. These .410
adapters are probably the next best thing. I wouldn't want to be on the
receiving
end of a .410 blast at pistol range.

Doug

"Over40pirate" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

Anybody know offhand what "gauge" 25mm equates to?

No, but 25mm is about an inch. 12 gauge is about 3/4". Of course,
the kick will be largely dependant upon the powder charge. I have
25mm flares, but I've yet to fire one, so I don't know how bad they
are. The small(ish) gun fires both regular and parachute flares, the
latter having what amounts to its own barrel. I can't imagine they
would be wicked bad - they are supposed to be a safety device!

--
I carry on board a metal 25mm flair gun. The kick from these is not very
bad. I
would be interested in hearing from anyone who has actually used one of
the
inserts that were advertised to shoot shotgun shells from flair guns. The
ad's
I remember seeing, didn't say anything about not using them in a plastic
gun.
K

The only 16ga adaptors I know about are lightweight and meant only for
firing flares ( flares are fairly harmless but don't tell Hollywood ) ,
shotgun shells would blow-up, immediately . The 410 Adaptors are fine for a
oneshot bird gun. To go hunting for AK47's think again...

LS


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I've never seen a plastic 25mm flare pistol. A 16ga shotgun shell doesn't
have that much of a kick anyway. Also, the adapter was machined out of
solid
stainless and had
some heft, about 1/4" wall thickness. I doubt that it would kick that
much.
I'm kicking myself for not buying one of the adapters while I had the
chance. These .410
adapters are probably the next best thing. I wouldn't want to be on the
receiving
end of a .410 blast at pistol range.

Doug

"Over40pirate" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

This one was specifically designed for use with 16ga shotgun
shells for use in a 25mm flaregun. Specific purpose was for
defense aboard ship. If you consider the diameter of the 25mm
gun and the 16ga shell you can get an idea of the wall thickness.
It was machined out of solid 316 SS. Very robust device. All
water under the bridge now since it seems to have dissappeared
off the market. The site I found was selling off their stock at $125
per unit. Should have bought one when I had the chance.

Doug

"Larry Starr" wrote in message
...
The only 16ga adaptors I know about are lightweight and meant only for
firing flares ( flares are fairly harmless but don't tell Hollywood ) ,
shotgun shells would blow-up, immediately . The 410 Adaptors are fine for
a
oneshot bird gun. To go hunting for AK47's think again...

LS


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I've never seen a plastic 25mm flare pistol. A 16ga shotgun shell
doesn't
have that much of a kick anyway. Also, the adapter was machined out of
solid
stainless and had
some heft, about 1/4" wall thickness. I doubt that it would kick that
much.
I'm kicking myself for not buying one of the adapters while I had the
chance. These .410
adapters are probably the next best thing. I wouldn't want to be on the
receiving
end of a .410 blast at pistol range.

Doug

"Over40pirate" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had
a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be
on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

OOPS! I did some searching back through my posts when this
subject came up last year. It was a .410 shell that it fires. Apparently
I did find some reference to a 16ga adapter, but never was able
to track down a source. That will teach me to go cruising for a year.
Just seach for "Flare Gun Adapter" and you will find all kinds of
interesting adapters for both 25mm and 12ga flareguns.

DOug

"Larry Starr" wrote in message
...
The only 16ga adaptors I know about are lightweight and meant only for
firing flares ( flares are fairly harmless but don't tell Hollywood ) ,
shotgun shells would blow-up, immediately . The 410 Adaptors are fine for
a
oneshot bird gun. To go hunting for AK47's think again...

LS


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I've never seen a plastic 25mm flare pistol. A 16ga shotgun shell
doesn't
have that much of a kick anyway. Also, the adapter was machined out of
solid
stainless and had
some heft, about 1/4" wall thickness. I doubt that it would kick that
much.
I'm kicking myself for not buying one of the adapters while I had the
chance. These .410
adapters are probably the next best thing. I wouldn't want to be on the
receiving
end of a .410 blast at pistol range.

Doug

"Over40pirate" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had
a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be
on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

The only 16ga adaptors I know about are lightweight and meant only for
firing flares ( flares are fairly harmless but don't tell Hollywood ) ,
shotgun shells would blow-up, immediately . The 410 Adaptors are fine for a
oneshot bird gun. To go hunting for AK47's think again...

LS


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I've never seen a plastic 25mm flare pistol. A 16ga shotgun shell doesn't
have that much of a kick anyway. Also, the adapter was machined out of
solid
stainless and had
some heft, about 1/4" wall thickness. I doubt that it would kick that
much.
I'm kicking myself for not buying one of the adapters while I had the
chance. These .410
adapters are probably the next best thing. I wouldn't want to be on the
receiving
end of a .410 blast at pistol range.

Doug

"Over40pirate" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

"L. M. Rappaport" wrote:

... The small(ish) gun fires both regular and parachute flares, the
latter having what amounts to its own barrel. I can't imagine they
would be wicked bad - they are supposed to be a safety device!


Agreed. But if you install an adapter and fire a 16 Ga shotgun shell as
some suggest I suspect your hand might smart for a while.

Apparently not as bad as one might think. But then again if I am trying to
defend myself against a threat that would warrant the use of said
device, I don't think it would bother me. I suspect that the kick
wouldn't be any worse than a large handgun like a .45 or .50.

Doug

"Vito" wrote in message
...
"L. M. Rappaport" wrote:

... The small(ish) gun fires both regular and parachute flares, the
latter having what amounts to its own barrel. I can't imagine they
would be wicked bad - they are supposed to be a safety device!


Agreed. But if you install an adapter and fire a 16 Ga shotgun shell as
some suggest I suspect your hand might smart for a while.