Larry wrote:

"Olecapt" wrote in
:

Hmm silence. Is it the "we are not going to offer an opinion
because Skip and Lydia will see it?" Or is the subject simply too
painful to raise. That is how we avoid a lot of the truths in blue
water sailing.


As I was talking to Skip on Skype, I told him we don't take Lionheart
offshore to do anything serious without 6 sailors aboard, 2 per watch
section, 3 watch sections so you can get some REST under any conditions.
Most everyone out there trying to get away from humanity is sailing with
way too few actual sailors, not professionals but able hands strong
enough to haul in a fouled main tearing up in the wind at 2AM.

This is what I would like. I would go to Bermuda or down to the
Caribbean with Bob, but NOT without at least one other able bodied
person aboard to stand the watches. And he won't do that. So we
don't go. He says I'm chicken.

Now he's talking about singlehanding, and that's crazy.

We do have all roller furling so that we can handle all the sails from
the cockpit and don't need to go on deck except to anchor or come in
to a dock.

It's none of my business how others sail, but as we're talking about it,
I think an able man sailing with a wife who couldn't bring the boat
around and save his life if he simply fell overboard is really too
dangerous for all. Even if she doesn't get him back aboard, able or even
alive, what is she to do, stand and scream? She MUST be properly trained
and be able to handle the boat in fair, not just wonderful,
conditions....especially alone offshore.

You all know what I'm talking about.....It's not about Skip and Lydia.
How many of you have told your best sailing friends, "John, I don't think
you and Julie should go offshore by yourselves like you do."......do you?

Now he's talking about singlehanding, and that's crazy.


19 year old neighbor singlehanded a Columbia 28 to Maui last summer
to do a little surfing!
Gordon

Gordon wrote:

Now he's talking about singlehanding, and that's crazy.


19 year old neighbor singlehanded a Columbia 28 to Maui last summer
to do a little surfing!
Gordon

Yes but Bob is going to be 71 in March, he's had a heart attack, and
our boat is a CSY 44


grandma Rosalie

S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD
CSY 44 WO #156
http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id1.html

Rosalie B. wrote:
Gordon wrote:
Now he's talking about singlehanding, and that's crazy.

19 year old neighbor singlehanded a Columbia 28 to Maui last summer
to do a little surfing!
Gordon

Yes but Bob is going to be 71 in March, he's had a heart attack, and
our boat is a CSY 44


grandma Rosalie

S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD
CSY 44 WO #156
http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id1.html

That do make a difference!
g

Rosalie B. wrote in
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Yes but Bob is going to be 71 in March, he's had a heart attack, and
our boat is a CSY 44



You two shouldn't even leave the slip without at LEAST TWO, Strong YOUNG
hands who know how to sail it without you.

Larry
--
VIRUS ALERT! VISTA has been released!
NOONE will be spared!

Larry wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote in
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Yes but Bob is going to be 71 in March, he's had a heart attack, and
our boat is a CSY 44

You two shouldn't even leave the slip without at LEAST TWO, Strong YOUNG
hands who know how to sail it without you.

Well that's as may be.

Although I think I could run the boat by myself if I absolutely had to
(we have both been working out at the gym this winter, so I'm more fit
than I was), and especially I can motor, and work the autopilot and
all the communications stuff, get the weather and navigate. I can
also turn the engine on and I know how to anchor..

At the worst, I know how to call for help on the radio

Mostly I don't want Bob singlehanding, but if it comes to a point
where he is pigheaded enough to go without me when I don't think going
is safe then I will have a hard decision to make. Let him go and
perhaps die?

Rosalie B. wrote:
Larry wrote:


Rosalie B. wrote in
m:


Yes but Bob is going to be 71 in March, he's had a heart attack, and
our boat is a CSY 44


You two shouldn't even leave the slip without at LEAST TWO, Strong YOUNG
hands who know how to sail it without you.


Well that's as may be.

Although I think I could run the boat by myself if I absolutely had to
(we have both been working out at the gym this winter, so I'm more fit
than I was), and especially I can motor, and work the autopilot and
all the communications stuff, get the weather and navigate. I can
also turn the engine on and I know how to anchor..

At the worst, I know how to call for help on the radio

Mostly I don't want Bob singlehanding, but if it comes to a point
where he is pigheaded enough to go without me when I don't think going
is safe then I will have a hard decision to make. Let him go and
perhaps die?

Maybe you could find an acceptable compromise by
insisting that you would like to go along, but you
also want a third (or fourth) crew along as well.
I think there are quite a few unpaid
volunteers available if you look around far enough
in advance, and you can always hire a licensed
captain to accompany you if desperate. Some of
them are looking to build sea time, and are
available quite inexpensively. A lot of bareboat
charter companys maintain lists of independent
captains.

I am assuming that it is the passages that you are
most worried about, and not gunkholing around the
islands.


Don W.

Don W wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:
Larry wrote:


Rosalie B. wrote in
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Yes but Bob is going to be 71 in March, he's had a heart attack, and
our boat is a CSY 44


You two shouldn't even leave the slip without at LEAST TWO, Strong YOUNG
hands who know how to sail it without you.


Well that's as may be.

Although I think I could run the boat by myself if I absolutely had to
(we have both been working out at the gym this winter, so I'm more fit
than I was), and especially I can motor, and work the autopilot and
all the communications stuff, get the weather and navigate. I can
also turn the engine on and I know how to anchor..

At the worst, I know how to call for help on the radio

Mostly I don't want Bob singlehanding, but if it comes to a point
where he is pigheaded enough to go without me when I don't think going
is safe then I will have a hard decision to make. Let him go and
perhaps die?

Maybe you could find an acceptable compromise by
insisting that you would like to go along, but you
also want a third (or fourth) crew along as well.

Yes that has always been something that would work for me. But he
doesn't want to consider it. He just doesn't want anyone else but me
on the boat. If push came to shove, I don't know what I would do.

We had a couple go with us for 3 weeks on the ICW and I enjoyed that
so much. But they've got their own boat now - a smaller CSY. She
won't do ocean passages with him, and so he single hands and she meets
him in the ports. But I think he's a bit younger than Bob, and she's
much more of a chicken than I am.

I think there are quite a few unpaid
volunteers available if you look around far enough
in advance, and you can always hire a licensed
captain to accompany you if desperate. Some of
them are looking to build sea time, and are
available quite inexpensively. A lot of bareboat
charter companys maintain lists of independent
captains.

I am assuming that it is the passages that you are
most worried about, and not gunkholing around the
islands.

We didn't take the boat out at all last summer because he was having
dental work done every week. So we will see how it goes this summer.
I'm perfectly happy gunkholing around in the Chesapeake for a couple
of weeks at a time.

He doesn't want to fly anywhere, so I guess if I'm going to travel at
all, I'll have to start taking my grandchildren with me. I'm going to
Ireland in June with the fourth oldest one (the first two are 26 and
24 years old respectively, and the third one died when he was 2.5)

Hi Rosie,

I don't see what is the big deal about getting a
couple of crewmembers to go on the longer
passages. Worst case, you spend a little more on
the provisions.

Personally, I decided some time ago that to do the
Pacific I want at least four capable people on the
boat. This allows for 12 hour two-person shifts
at sea, as well as two people on the boat at all
times for anchor watch once you arrive. Only two
people on the boat is too much work for me. I'm
cruising to have fun!

Don W.

Rosalie B. wrote:
Larry wrote:

As I was talking to Skip on Skype, I told him we don't take Lionheart
offshore to do anything serious without 6 sailors aboard, 2 per watch
section, 3 watch sections so you can get some REST under any conditions.
Most everyone out there trying to get away from humanity is sailing with
way too few actual sailors, not professionals but able hands strong
enough to haul in a fouled main tearing up in the wind at 2AM.


This is what I would like. I would go to Bermuda or down to the
Caribbean with Bob, but NOT without at least one other able bodied
person aboard to stand the watches. And he won't do that. So we
don't go. He says I'm chicken.

Now he's talking about singlehanding, and that's crazy.

Don W wrote:

Hi Rosie,

I don't see what is the big deal about getting a
couple of crewmembers to go on the longer
passages. Worst case, you spend a little more on
the provisions.

It isn't you I'm sailing with. You don't have to convince ME.

Personally, I decided some time ago that to do the
Pacific I want at least four capable people on the
boat. This allows for 12 hour two-person shifts
at sea, as well as two people on the boat at all
times for anchor watch once you arrive. Only two
people on the boat is too much work for me. I'm
cruising to have fun!

Don W.

Rosalie B. wrote:
Larry wrote:

As I was talking to Skip on Skype, I told him we don't take Lionheart
offshore to do anything serious without 6 sailors aboard, 2 per watch
section, 3 watch sections so you can get some REST under any conditions.
Most everyone out there trying to get away from humanity is sailing with
way too few actual sailors, not professionals but able hands strong
enough to haul in a fouled main tearing up in the wind at 2AM.


This is what I would like. I would go to Bermuda or down to the
Caribbean with Bob, but NOT without at least one other able bodied
person aboard to stand the watches. And he won't do that. So we
don't go. He says I'm chicken.

Now he's talking about singlehanding, and that's crazy.