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Larry wrote: Wayne.B wrote in : On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:02:11 GMT, "Cap'n Ric" wrote: Do you have a 100 Ton Masters License? Didn't think so. You'll also need one of those to operate this vessle in the US. Not true unless your insurance company insists on it or you are carrying passengers for hire. I was wondering about that, myself. All it takes is money....lots of money. Here in N. FL. the shrimpers are being driven out of business by cheap imported shrimp. I cannot decide whether to think cheap imported shrimp is good dor bad but it is driving many shrimpers out of bus. Given that shrimping has been of low profitiabiluity in the past few years, the shrimp boats are in poor repair. I saw one boat here that had a large sheet of plywood screwed over a large hole in the side and she has been out shrimping many times like this. Some are just being allowed to sink at their berths....sorta sad. Larry -- Extremely intelligent life exists that is so smart they never called Earth. |
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Cap'n Ric wrote: 72' LOA with a 20' beam that draws about 7'. Where are you going to dock it? That'll take a mighty big and expensive slip with at least 8' of MLW water all the way in. You got 8 kids? Do you really need 72 feet of boat? I think you are probably looking at closer to $200,000 for a "complete" liveaboard refit. Do you know how to maintain this boat's systems? Didn't think so. Add another $10,000 a year for maintainence. How about insurance? Do you have a 100 Ton Masters License? Didn't think so. You'll also need one of those to operate this vessle in the US. How many shrimpers do you think are licenced Captains? Joe USMM Master Cap'n Ric USCG Licensed Master S/V Sezaneh 2003 Beneteau 473 (I live aboard it) |
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Cal Vanize wrote: wrote: How many shrimpers do you think are licenced Captains? Is this a test? Couldn't you help us out by making it multiple choice? A.) 1-10 B.) 1-100 C.) 1-1000 BTW how often are you willing to dish out 6000+ dollars to fill that pig up? Get a proper motor sailor, the best of all worlds. Joe |
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Cap'n Ric wrote: 72' LOA with a 20' beam that draws about 7'. Where are you going to dock it? A lot more places that WONT take a yacht. Try just about any place.... but ya might have a barge for a neighbour. You got 8 kids? Do you really need 72 feet of boat? Depending on the fishery youre usually talking three people to run a boat that size. One driving and two working the back deck. I think you are probably looking at closer to $200,000 for a "complete" liveaboard refit. And the guys working the boat live in the stoneage??? Dont think so. Men got to eat, sleep, and take showers. What else is missing? Do you know how to maintain this boat's systems? Didn't think so. I would argue that a commercial boat would be a huge improvment over any yacht to work on. Guys working on the water dont have time to screw around with all that sissy ****. Add another $10,000 a year for maintainence. Why? There aint nutin to break and if so the system will be out in the open and replaceable with basic marine stuff not the **** ya get from West MArine. How about insurance? Hummm, Ill have to think about this. Do you have a 100 Ton Masters License? Didn't think so. Now this really shows your lask of knowledge. how many commercial fisher men do you know that hold a USCG master license beacause it is USCG required? You'll also need one of those to operate this vessle in the US. Not. I have a friend that converted a 76' steel custom trawler that was built in Biddeford, Maine. This boat was only 5 years old and in excellent condition. He converted it to a blue water cruising yacht for a 2 year around the world cruise with his family. The boat cost him $750,000 and he added $800,000 over a year before they left. So the guy is an idiot with too much money to blow. And that proves what? He is a retired ship's captain and a Merchant Marine Academy grad. He does know what he is doing. Not counting fuel and other consumables he figured his monthly maintenance at $1,500. Leave the exotics to the fools and experts. So what is so exotic about a simple workboat? Unless that is, you dont know what you are talking about. Bob Cap'n Ric USCG Licensed Master S/V Sezaneh 2003 Beneteau 473 (I live aboard it) |
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Bob wrote:
Uhh, I thing those coonass back bayou shrimppers could pass a driver license test. HOw on earth cold they get a master license??!??!?! My guess is choice: D.) 0-1 Yeah, dat maybee rot. Bot lemme told you, day kin handle dem boats what you neveh gonna saw. Day doan need no drivah lisens far dem 4 weelahz. (Can you guess where I went to school? ) |
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Cal Vanize wrote: Yeah, dat maybee rot. Bot lemme told you, day kin handle dem boats what you neveh gonna saw. ya got dat righ. dam good boat driva. Whish I haf fifty cnt fo ever coonass skipper. Id be a reech man. Day doan need no drivah lisens far dem 4 weelahz. Most dem ben on da riva since knee high to a mudbug. (Can you guess where I went to school? ) Uhh.......... Dartmouth College? |
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"Cal Vanize" wrote in message ... wrote: How many shrimpers do you think are licenced Captains? Is this a test? Couldn't you help us out by making it multiple choice? Now-a-days how many can speak English? |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in news:1168896358.442205.262840
@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com: Here in N. FL. the shrimpers are being driven out of business by cheap imported shrimp. I cannot decide whether to think cheap imported shrimp is good dor bad but it is driving many shrimpers out of bus. Given that shrimping has been of low profitiabiluity in the past few years, the shrimp boats are in poor repair. I saw one boat here that had a large sheet of plywood screwed over a large hole in the side and she has been out shrimping many times like this. Some are just being allowed to sink at their berths....sorta sad. The same is true in Charleston. The boats cost just too much, especially in fuel, for the return on investment. Shrimp is very cheap compared to other seafoods and it's driving our shrimp fleet out of business, too. Big oil and the bankers must be very proud..... Larry -- Extremely intelligent life exists that is so smart they never called Earth. |
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