"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:56:00 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

It happened to a friend's boat last year. It was towed in by an LNG
ship. Aside from all the cushions being soaked and a bent bow pulpit
(from the tow line), it didn't look any worse than after a two week
cruise in Maine. As he quipped, "As soon as they stopped trying to
steer it, it did just fine."

What was the nature of his "distress"? One of the problems with
calling the USCG for an injury situation is that they can order
everyone off the boat and it's no longer in your hands to make the
abandon ship decision.


Suppose you refuse to leave your vessel -- what can they do? Shoot you in
order to save you?

Suppose you refuse to leave your vessel -- what can they do? Shoot you in
order to save you?


Of course they will not shoot you. They are up in
a helicopter usually, and the only one close to
your boat is the rescue diver.

However, if you are a US citizen, and you refuse
orders to abandon boat, two things will likely
happen.

1) If conditions get worse and you actually
need to abandon ship you will be on your own.

2) When you get back to the US you may be
facing an administrative hearing and a fine for
disobeying a Coast Guard regulation about
continuing an unsafe voyage.

If you are not a US citizen, and don't land in the
USA, then I'd think you'd probably be okay as long
as Neptune didn't get you.

YMMV,

Don W.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 02:20:57 GMT, Don W
wrote:

2) When you get back to the US you may be
facing an administrative hearing and a fine for
disobeying a Coast Guard regulation about
continuing an unsafe voyage.

Or "disobeying a lawful order" or "obstruction of governmental
administration" or some such. I would assume that the USCG rescue
jumpers have had some training in how to deal with the uncooperative.

I once asked a stewardess on a plane (pre 9/11) what would happen if I
refused to give up my ticketed and confirmed seat that I was being
bumped from. She was very quick to quote the list of potential
offences that I could be charged with.

Truth is that most people being asked to abandon ship by a rescue team
have already been through hell and back, and are more than eager to
comply even if the boat is in no immediate danger of going down.
Typically the boat has already been dismasted and lost power.

I once asked a stewardess on a plane (pre 9/11) what would happen if I
refused to give up my ticketed and confirmed seat that I was being
bumped from. She was very quick to quote the list of potential
offences that I could be charged with.

Well, I doubt that holds the same credibility as an order from the Coast
Guard. But most folks aren't interested in the hassles of trying to argue
with the idiots working the airline counters. And someone in a boating
distress situation isn't terribly likely either.

Looks like I have missed a few of these posts.
Maybe my question has already been answered?

Does boat insurance cover "abandonment".


"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
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I once asked a stewardess on a plane (pre 9/11) what would happen if I
refused to give up my ticketed and confirmed seat that I was being
bumped from. She was very quick to quote the list of potential
offences that I could be charged with.

Well, I doubt that holds the same credibility as an order from the Coast
Guard. But most folks aren't interested in the hassles of trying to argue
with the idiots working the airline counters. And someone in a boating
distress situation isn't terribly likely either.

Don,, you make good sense. If you call for help,,, you can't say "just
kidding" when the help arrives.

On the other hand,,, many times the CG will drop a pump or take someone off
a boat and the boat will continue on.

I think the thing to remember:::::::::::::: don't get caught out in the
muck in the first place. Plan, plan, plan ....................


and when your done planning ..............


Start planning.














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"Don W" wrote in message
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Suppose you refuse to leave your vessel -- what can they do? Shoot you in
order to save you?

Of course they will not shoot you. They are up in a helicopter usually,
and the only one close to your boat is the rescue diver.

However, if you are a US citizen, and you refuse orders to abandon boat,
two things will likely happen.

1) If conditions get worse and you actually need to abandon ship you
will be on your own.

2) When you get back to the US you may be facing an administrative
hearing and a fine for disobeying a Coast Guard regulation about
continuing an unsafe voyage.

If you are not a US citizen, and don't land in the USA, then I'd think
you'd probably be okay as long as Neptune didn't get you.

YMMV,

Don W.

In article ,
"KLC Lewis" wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:56:00 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

It happened to a friend's boat last year. It was towed in by an LNG
ship. Aside from all the cushions being soaked and a bent bow pulpit
(from the tow line), it didn't look any worse than after a two week
cruise in Maine. As he quipped, "As soon as they stopped trying to
steer it, it did just fine."

What was the nature of his "distress"? One of the problems with
calling the USCG for an injury situation is that they can order
everyone off the boat and it's no longer in your hands to make the
abandon ship decision.


Suppose you refuse to leave your vessel -- what can they do? Shoot you in
order to save you?



No, if you refuse to leave, they just go HOME and leave you to your own
devices.

"You" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"KLC Lewis" wrote:


Suppose you refuse to leave your vessel -- what can they do? Shoot you in
order to save you?



No, if you refuse to leave, they just go HOME and leave you to your own
devices.

Ah, but that would be the point, no?