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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:19:39 GMT, Charles Cox
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:30:57 GMT, "J. Slater" wrote:


Answer me this: How does a vessel maintain 100 yards from a militaty vessel
when passing in a channel that is less than 50 yards wide? The "rules"
don't seem to give a remedy for this kind of scenario. It should at least
be mentioned as an exception.


It's happened to me a couple of times in Boston harbor. Not military ships, but a cruise ship and LNG tanker both had security
zones around them. Since there is no warning on the VHF, it is easy to get caught by a ship leaving one of the channels or the
Mystic river because they are not visible until they are entering the main channel. In both cases, the police instructed (via
bullhorn) me to keep as far to the outside of the channel as possible. Fortunately this has never happened when I was near the
airport security zone, one could easily find oneself caught in the middle of two overlapping security zones.

I have never know a ship to cast off without an announcement on VHF13,
in, New York, Boston, or anywhere else. If you didn't know the names
of the ships, you might have missed the significance of the
announcements.

I have heard the CG announce security zones and the departure of
cruise ships on VHF 16 around Port Everglades and Miami. I've also
heard warnings in Norfolk when carriers are leaving the slips etc.

Incidentally - there was a letter in USAA news where a guy said that a
ship is not properly referred to as at the dock unless it is in dry
dock - that it is moored. Do you guys agree with that? (I think I'm
up to date on the difference between a ship and a boat, but I never
heard of that one.)




grandma Rosalie

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CSY 44 WO #156
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Rosalie B. wrote:
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Incidentally - there was a letter in USAA news where a guy said that a
ship is not properly referred to as at the dock unless it is in dry
dock - that it is moored. Do you guys agree with that? (I think I'm
up to date on the difference between a ship and a boat, but I never
heard of that one.)

Rosalie, it's been over 40 years now, but on our destroyer the call
was "moored" when the first line went over.

TomT

"Rosalie B." wrote:

Incidentally - there was a letter in USAA news where a guy said that a
ship is not properly referred to as at the dock unless it is in dry
dock - that it is moored. Do you guys agree with that? (I think I'm
up to date on the difference between a ship and a boat, but I never
heard of that one.)

That's correct. Four decades ago, Navy ships in Norfolk were "moored" at
a "pier" as in "Go check out the Fletcher's radar, she's moored at the
D&S Pier"; but then "gay" meant happy, an "issue" was something we
disagreed on, not necessarily a problem, and editors had degrees in
English.