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Talking to a very knowledgeable surveyor here, without looking at the
particular boat, says that Irwins were roomy and make great liveaboards, but
were not to be trusted offshore. They were a cheaply made boat to fit a
particular market and not for the serious cruiser.
That seems to fit what many of you have said.
Thanks all
Gordon



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Gordon wrote:
Talking to a very knowledgeable surveyor here, without looking at the
particular boat, says that Irwins were roomy and make great liveaboards, but
were not to be trusted offshore. They were a cheaply made boat to fit a
particular market and not for the serious cruiser.
That seems to fit what many of you have said.
Thanks all
Gordon


Did the surveyor say why Irwins "were not to be trusted offshore"? Are
they prone to breaking up and sinking, thru hulls fall out, mast break
off? What makes them dangerous offshore? Just like to know his reasons.
krj
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The story on this page might shed some light.

http://pages.sssnet.com/go2erie/wind.htm

Scroll down to the Irwin Citation
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Did the surveyor say why Irwins "were not to be trusted offshore"?
Are they prone to breaking up and sinking, thru hulls fall out, mast
break off? What makes them dangerous offshore? Just like to know his
reasons.
krj



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Jack Horner has a review of the Irwin 37

There is a world of difference between a 37 and a 42 (and larger).

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Roger Long wrote:
The story on this page might shed some light.

http://pages.sssnet.com/go2erie/wind.htm

Scroll down to the Irwin Citation


The story talks about the side of the hull flexing
while beating into 4-5' chop. I read a similar
story about the Irwin 53 that was written by a
delivery skipper.

Bottom line, they are not blue water boats. The
same can be (and is) said about a lot of other
manufacturers products as well.

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Serious flexing!
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Gordon wrote:
Talking to a very knowledgeable surveyor here, without looking at the
particular boat, says that Irwins were roomy and make great liveaboards,

but
were not to be trusted offshore. They were a cheaply made boat to fit a
particular market and not for the serious cruiser.
That seems to fit what many of you have said.
Thanks all
Gordon


Did the surveyor say why Irwins "were not to be trusted offshore"? Are
they prone to breaking up and sinking, thru hulls fall out, mast break
off? What makes them dangerous offshore? Just like to know his reasons.
krj



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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:21:56 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Talking to a very knowledgeable surveyor here, without looking at the
particular boat, says that Irwins were roomy and make great liveaboards, but
were not to be trusted offshore. They were a cheaply made boat to fit a
particular market and not for the serious cruiser.
That seems to fit what many of you have said.


They were actually designed and layed out for the Carribean charter
business. Cruising the BVIs, etc. They're great for that. For
instance, my 37 CC had two complete and private staterooms, each with
a head with shower. And a large main salon, large galley (3 burner
stove, oven, large sink) had 2 large coolers and a fridge, ample
storage space, etc. etc. You have full size walkthrough passage from
the inside to the aft stateroom, which a lot of center cockpit boats
that size don't have (you have to go through the cockpit on a lot of
them.)

It was set up so two couples or a family with kids could cruise
comfortably for a few weeks on the calm seas of the Carribean. And it
does that very well. It's also very comfortable and perfect for the
Chesapeake and for coastal cruising. But I wouldn't want to circumnav
in mine without some modifications/upgrades.

Steve
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:58:03 GMT, "Roger Long"
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The story on this page might shed some light.

http://pages.sssnet.com/go2erie/wind.htm

Scroll down to the Irwin Citation


That's the Citation, which was a very lightweight boat compared to the
37 or 42. A very different boat.

Steve
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Steve wrote:

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:51:15 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Any yeas, nays, comments on an Irwin 42 center cockpit ketch?
Thanks
Gordon


Having had an Irwin 37 CC and knowing a lot of other Irwin owners, I
can tell you that your question is a hard one to answer without
looking at that specific boat. The overall build quality of Irwins
varies greatly, more than most other boat brands. That's because they
didn't have very consistent (more like non-existent) quality control
(someone specificially designated to oversee the builders and make
sure they're being put together right) but they sometimes had good
people building them and sometimes not. So you might get a great boat
and you might get a dud. Fortunately I had one of the great ones. It
was very solidly built and after 25 years of some pretty hard sailing
had no major problems ... far less than many other 25 year old boats
I've seen even from some boutique brands.

No sense telling you about the specific characteristics of the 37
since the 42 is a different boat.

So my recommendation is to get it surveyed by a good suveyor and if it
comes out fairly clean (almost no older boat will come out perfect) go
for it. You'll be getting a lot of boat for the money. Irwins are
known for being good values, if you get a good one. Kind of like the
Chevy Bel Aire of sailboats.

Steve


You might post your question he





They should be able to help you out.

Jim
Irwin 28
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