The name of my boat, on the transom, has been on there for years. Long
before I bought her. I tried to remove the hailing port paint for a new
look last spring; couldn't get it all off. I tried all the usual methods.

To sum up; the transom looks like ****.

I got to looking at sailboats on the net, especially the transom name, look.
This got me thinking ??

What are your opinions of taping off the transom, dewax, sand, prime, and
put on a coat of two part epoxy .. then a new name paint job over.

I realize the paint job won't match the remainder of the hull. It would be
more bright, I'm sure. Would you paint the transom the same color as the
boot stripe? Or, paint the color ( white in my case ) that closely matches
the hull and paint the name the boot stripe color.

Transom opinions please ..

thanks

I do not know the looks of your transom or the type of paint used for the
lettering.
However, painted letters and figures can be removed using a razor blade. It
requires a little practice and some time.
Once the lettering are removing, as stated you will noticed raised letters
where the area around the old letters were painted.
The only way to remove these raised old letters embedded in the gelcoat is
to use sand paper providing your have enough gelcoat left on the transom

Start with wet sanding paper of 300 grits using water as a lubricant. Then
use 400 grits and work your way up to 1200 grits.
Then you use a fine compound on all the transom. On older boat you may not
have enough gelcoat left to do what I just said.
When you do not have enough gelcoat left on your transom the best thing to
do is to removed the raised areas. Then have a new name made with vinyl and
stick it over the old area.
On a last resort is to remove the raised areas made by the old lettering.
Prep. the transom, get a chip of the gelcoat. get it color matched and
purchased two part paint to do the complete transom. The later looks like a
long process but once you get started it goes fast and you end up with a
nice looking transom without the elbow grease use to compound and waxing.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:28:03 GMT, "Benning Wentworth"

said:

The name of my boat, on the transom, has been on there for years. Long
before I bought her. I tried to remove the hailing port paint for a new
look last spring; couldn't get it all off. I tried all the usual
methods.

I had to the hailing port on my transom a couple of years ago. Found that
oven cleaner took the old name off pretty easily. If you look closely from
very near, you can still see the raised letters where the area around the
old letters hadn't been reduced by compounding over the years, but you
have
to look pretty closely. Then I ordered a vinyl decal for the new home
port.

"Unless the old letters are quite obvious, it ain't worth all that effort"

I agreed with you. Not having seen the boat, the transom and the lettering
it is a suggested approach.
In my case I just removed the lettering and placed the new vinyl lettering
over it.
It is best to trace the old name on tracing paper or its equivalent. Then
the lettering people can use it to match the size and spacing on their
computer screen to fit and cut the name on vinyl. By choosing the size and
type of letter you can cover most of the old raised old letters. Then you
put the new name on and peel the left over. The negative side of this is
from a close up view if your are hunting for it you will see trough the
vinyl the old raised letters. On the other hand who's cares.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:52:19 GMT, said:

Once the lettering are removing, as stated you will noticed raised letters
where the area around the old letters were painted.
The only way to remove these raised old letters embedded in the gelcoat is
to use sand paper providing your have enough gelcoat left on the transom

Start with wet sanding paper of 300 grits using water as a lubricant.
Then
use 400 grits and work your way up to 1200 grits.
Then you use a fine compound on all the transom.

Unless the old letters are quite obvious, it ain't worth all that effort.

"from a close up view if your are hunting for it you will see trough the
vinyl the old raised letters"
Right and unless the boat is on the hard you can chase the viewers off by
firing up the diesel! Ha!
MMC
wrote in message
...
"Unless the old letters are quite obvious, it ain't worth all that effort"

I agreed with you. Not having seen the boat, the transom and the
lettering it is a suggested approach.
In my case I just removed the lettering and placed the new vinyl lettering
over it.
It is best to trace the old name on tracing paper or its equivalent. Then
the lettering people can use it to match the size and spacing on their
computer screen to fit and cut the name on vinyl. By choosing the size
and type of letter you can cover most of the old raised old letters. Then
you put the new name on and peel the left over. The negative side of
this is from a close up view if your are hunting for it you will see
trough the vinyl the old raised letters. On the other hand who's cares.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:52:19 GMT, said:

Once the lettering are removing, as stated you will noticed raised
letters
where the area around the old letters were painted.
The only way to remove these raised old letters embedded in the gelcoat
is
to use sand paper providing your have enough gelcoat left on the transom

Start with wet sanding paper of 300 grits using water as a lubricant.
Then
use 400 grits and work your way up to 1200 grits.
Then you use a fine compound on all the transom.

Unless the old letters are quite obvious, it ain't worth all that effort.

Benning Wentworth wrote:
The name of my boat, on the transom, has been on there for years. Long
before I bought her. I tried to remove the hailing port paint for a new
look last spring; couldn't get it all off. I tried all the usual methods.

To sum up; the transom looks like ****.

I got to looking at sailboats on the net, especially the transom name, look.
This got me thinking ??

What are your opinions of taping off the transom, dewax, sand, prime, and
put on a coat of two part epoxy .. then a new name paint job over.

I realize the paint job won't match the remainder of the hull. It would be
more bright, I'm sure. Would you paint the transom the same color as the
boot stripe? Or, paint the color ( white in my case ) that closely matches
the hull and paint the name the boot stripe color.

Transom opinions please ..

thanks

Painting transoms is not that uncommon, and a good guy should be able
to match the color unless it's a dark color and has faded (never get a
dark color hull, they all fade eventually, then your looking at a paint
job). You could even go with a completely differant color, as long as
the color looks good with the rest of the hull.

John

"Capt John" wrote in message
ups.com...

Benning Wentworth wrote:
The name of my boat, on the transom, has been on there for years. Long
before I bought her. I tried to remove the hailing port paint for a new
look last spring; couldn't get it all off. I tried all the usual
methods.

To sum up; the transom looks like ****.

I got to looking at sailboats on the net, especially the transom name,
look.
This got me thinking ??

What are your opinions of taping off the transom, dewax, sand, prime, and
put on a coat of two part epoxy .. then a new name paint job over.

I realize the paint job won't match the remainder of the hull. It would
be
more bright, I'm sure. Would you paint the transom the same color as the
boot stripe? Or, paint the color ( white in my case ) that closely
matches
the hull and paint the name the boot stripe color.

Transom opinions please ..

thanks

Painting transoms is not that uncommon, and a good guy should be able
to match the color unless it's a dark color and has faded (never get a
dark color hull, they all fade eventually, then your looking at a paint
job). You could even go with a completely differant color, as long as
the color looks good with the rest of the hull.

John


What you are planning sounds good. I would suggest using AWLGrip paint.
Many many folks have told me that this is the best and will last for years.
It is very glossy so surface prep is critical. Any imperfections will show
through.

On thing to get paint off of fiberglass is to use oven cleaner. The old
"Easyoff" like mom used works great.

AWLGrip paint is the best "known" finish for fibreglass.
Yesterday, I was helping my friend to get his mooring ball off for the
winter.
Then I noticed the nice shiny finish on his outside rudder and cockpit
seats.
I asked him if this was painted with the two parts Interthane 990 paint that
I used 10 years ago. I replied yes.
Then I compared some recent AWlGrip jobs with the 10 years old Interthane
jobs.
The findings were that almost no scratches were found on the Interthane
finish. In opposition, the AWLGrip finished a few years ago shows scratches
and sighs of wear and tears. When I repaired the outside rudder and cockpit
seats I had use epoxy to for structural bonding and applied two coat of
Interthane.
Now many companies like Petit and the others are making two parts paints
that rivals with AWLGrip at a much lower price.




"Rick" wrote in message
...

"Capt John" wrote in message
ups.com...

Benning Wentworth wrote:
The name of my boat, on the transom, has been on there for years. Long
before I bought her. I tried to remove the hailing port paint for a new
look last spring; couldn't get it all off. I tried all the usual
methods.

To sum up; the transom looks like ****.

I got to looking at sailboats on the net, especially the transom name,
look.
This got me thinking ??

What are your opinions of taping off the transom, dewax, sand, prime,
and
put on a coat of two part epoxy .. then a new name paint job over.

I realize the paint job won't match the remainder of the hull. It would
be
more bright, I'm sure. Would you paint the transom the same color as
the
boot stripe? Or, paint the color ( white in my case ) that closely
matches
the hull and paint the name the boot stripe color.

Transom opinions please ..

thanks

Painting transoms is not that uncommon, and a good guy should be able
to match the color unless it's a dark color and has faded (never get a
dark color hull, they all fade eventually, then your looking at a paint
job). You could even go with a completely differant color, as long as
the color looks good with the rest of the hull.

John


What you are planning sounds good. I would suggest using AWLGrip paint.
Many many folks have told me that this is the best and will last for
years. It is very glossy so surface prep is critical. Any imperfections
will show through.

On thing to get paint off of fiberglass is to use oven cleaner. The old
"Easyoff" like mom used works great.

Painting anywhere on the topsides of a boat should be the very LAST
thing you do. Once you paint, you're comitted to paint and paint and
paint as even the very best paints are only 'temporary' coatings.

Make a teeny 'test drilling' of the gelcoat to validate how thick the
original gelcoat. Do the drilling in the location for the new name so
that the new name covers the drilling. Then flat sand the gelcoat down
with progressively finer and finer wet and dry paper and a rubber
sanding block .... the teeny test hole will tell you 'how far' you can
flat-sand into the gel to remove the old name. Gel on transoms is
usually quite thick.
320---400 --600--1300---2000 grit wet & dry paper using a few drop
of dishwashing detergent and water as the sanding lubricant, then
powerbuff with 3M Finese-it and 3M perfect-it.

Forget paint as paint always ends up looking 'like ****' after a few
years; gelcoat is easy to flatsand and powerbuff and best of all its
'permanent'.


In article ThsXg.4586$WD1.1688@trndny04, Benning Wentworth
wrote:

The name of my boat, on the transom, has been on there for years. Long
before I bought her. I tried to remove the hailing port paint for a new
look last spring; couldn't get it all off. I tried all the usual methods.

To sum up; the transom looks like ****.

I got to looking at sailboats on the net, especially the transom name, look.
This got me thinking ??

What are your opinions of taping off the transom, dewax, sand, prime, and
put on a coat of two part epoxy .. then a new name paint job over.

I realize the paint job won't match the remainder of the hull. It would be
more bright, I'm sure. Would you paint the transom the same color as the
boot stripe? Or, paint the color ( white in my case ) that closely matches
the hull and paint the name the boot stripe color.

Transom opinions please ..

thanks