I have an old sailboat. The head doesn't have a holding tank. It
discharges overboard. I wonder, can I get a holding tank but not drill
through the deck for a pump out? The thought of drilling through my old
deck for a pump out that I will hardly ever use is crazy. But, I would put
a holding tank in to be legal.

Tell me about holding tanks with old heads.

Thanks,

"Sailboat" wrote in message
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I have an old sailboat. The head doesn't have a holding tank. It
discharges overboard. I wonder, can I get a holding tank but not drill
through the deck for a pump out? The thought of drilling through my old
deck for a pump out that I will hardly ever use is crazy. But, I would put
a holding tank in to be legal.

Tell me about holding tanks with old heads.

Thanks,


My solution was to rip everything out and replace it with a portapotty. The
holding tank (the portapotty itself) is carried up and out for emptying as
necessary. Got rid of two holes in the hull that way (one smallish, one
frighteningly largish). Two seasons later and I'm pleased as punch -- but
only daysailing so far.

KLC Lewis wrote:


My solution was to rip everything out and replace it with a portapotty. The
holding tank (the portapotty itself) is carried up and out for emptying as
necessary. Got rid of two holes in the hull that way (one smallish, one
frighteningly largish). Two seasons later and I'm pleased as punch -- but
only daysailing so far.


Porta potties used to be very popular where I was due to the lack of
thru-hulls. When far offshore, no sane person uses the toilet anyway so
it's a day sailing issue only.

... When far offshore, no sane person uses the toilet anyway so
it's a day sailing issue only.

That's a pretty ambitious statment. When the deck is being swept by
waves and it is dark, rainy and windy I think it is wise to use the
heads below rather than hanging my ass over the rail or trying to cart
a bucket of ofal to the lee side. Still, I spend a great deal of time
offshore in small boats so I suppose my sanity is open to question.

More to the point, I agree that the porta-potty is the easiest,
cheapest and likely best solution. I did the same thing to a CAL 36
that I owend years ago and it worked well for camping. If I were going
to live with the thing I think it might be worth checking to see if you
can go with a type III MSD. You'll have to check out the power, space
and legal problems before you even get to the cost... If you are up
for a bit of mad scientist action you might look into modifying a
composting tiolet to meet your needs. My current boat has the holding
tank in a deck locker so there are no through deck fittings...

-- Tom.

My current boat has the holding
tank in a deck locker so there are no through deck fittings...
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Let me see if I have this right ...

if one has the head, and the head doesn't have a holding tank ,,, there is a
way to put some type of holding tank in that can be emptied but not through
the deck.

Like a holding tank for a potto potty? This sounds easy,, it it?


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... When far offshore, no sane person uses the toilet anyway so
it's a day sailing issue only.

That's a pretty ambitious statment. When the deck is being swept by
waves and it is dark, rainy and windy I think it is wise to use the
heads below rather than hanging my ass over the rail or trying to cart
a bucket of ofal to the lee side. Still, I spend a great deal of time
offshore in small boats so I suppose my sanity is open to question.

More to the point, I agree that the porta-potty is the easiest,
cheapest and likely best solution. I did the same thing to a CAL 36
that I owend years ago and it worked well for camping. If I were going
to live with the thing I think it might be worth checking to see if you
can go with a type III MSD. You'll have to check out the power, space
and legal problems before you even get to the cost... If you are up
for a bit of mad scientist action you might look into modifying a
composting tiolet to meet your needs. My current boat has the holding
tank in a deck locker so there are no through deck fittings...

-- Tom.

Well, we had a Catalina 27 that had a holding tank but no deck fitting. We
brought the pumpout hose down below when we went to the pump out station. It
worked, but I wouldn't recommend it.

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"Small Sailboat" wrote in message
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My current boat has the holding
tank in a deck locker so there are no through deck fittings...
================================================== ==================================

Let me see if I have this right ...

if one has the head, and the head doesn't have a holding tank ,,, there is
a way to put some type of holding tank in that can be emptied but not
through the deck.

Like a holding tank for a potto potty? This sounds easy,, it it?


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wrote in message
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... When far offshore, no sane person uses the toilet anyway so
it's a day sailing issue only.

That's a pretty ambitious statment. When the deck is being swept by
waves and it is dark, rainy and windy I think it is wise to use the
heads below rather than hanging my ass over the rail or trying to cart
a bucket of ofal to the lee side. Still, I spend a great deal of time
offshore in small boats so I suppose my sanity is open to question.

More to the point, I agree that the porta-potty is the easiest,
cheapest and likely best solution. I did the same thing to a CAL 36
that I owend years ago and it worked well for camping. If I were going
to live with the thing I think it might be worth checking to see if you
can go with a type III MSD. You'll have to check out the power, space
and legal problems before you even get to the cost... If you are up
for a bit of mad scientist action you might look into modifying a
composting tiolet to meet your needs. My current boat has the holding
tank in a deck locker so there are no through deck fittings...

-- Tom.

wrote:
... When far offshore, no sane person uses the toilet anyway so
it's a day sailing issue only.

That's a pretty ambitious statment. When the deck is being swept by
waves and it is dark, rainy and windy I think it is wise to use the
heads below rather than hanging my ass over the rail or trying to cart
a bucket of ofal to the lee side. Still, I spend a great deal of time
offshore in small boats so I suppose my sanity is open to question.

More to the point, I agree that the porta-potty is the easiest,
cheapest and likely best solution. I did the same thing to a CAL 36
that I owend years ago and it worked well for camping. If I were going
to live with the thing I think it might be worth checking to see if you
can go with a type III MSD. You'll have to check out the power, space
and legal problems before you even get to the cost... If you are up
for a bit of mad scientist action you might look into modifying a
composting tiolet to meet your needs. My current boat has the holding
tank in a deck locker so there are no through deck fittings...

-- Tom.

Well, my reply was hyperbolic and I assumed all would take is as such.
Of course, if you are offshore and in heavy weather you'd use the
toilet, but in this case, the OP would have the PortaPottie along anyway.

"Paul Cassel" wrote in message
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KLC Lewis wrote:


My solution was to rip everything out and replace it with a portapotty.
The holding tank (the portapotty itself) is carried up and out for
emptying as necessary. Got rid of two holes in the hull that way (one
smallish, one frighteningly largish). Two seasons later and I'm pleased
as punch -- but only daysailing so far.
Porta potties used to be very popular where I was due to the lack of
thru-hulls. When far offshore, no sane person uses the toilet anyway so
it's a day sailing issue only.

Sorry Paul, but that's absolutely loony. When far offshore, the last thing
you want to do is to encourage people not to use the head. You can certainly
arrange to have the discharge pumped overboard, but not using the head
invites someone to fall off.

As conditions worsen, this can get dangerous even in the middle of the day
with everyone watching (well, perhaps that doesn't sound quite right, but
you get the point). :-)

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Sorry Paul, but that's absolutely loony. When far offshore, the last thing
you want to do is to encourage people not to use the head. You can
certainly arrange to have the discharge pumped overboard, but not using
the head invites someone to fall off.

As conditions worsen, this can get dangerous even in the middle of the day
with everyone watching (well, perhaps that doesn't sound quite right, but
you get the point). :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Ain't no problem at all. Just build a poop deck.

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Sorry Paul, but that's absolutely loony. When far offshore, the last
thing you want to do is to encourage people not to use the head. You can
certainly arrange to have the discharge pumped overboard, but not using
the head invites someone to fall off.

As conditions worsen, this can get dangerous even in the middle of the
day with everyone watching (well, perhaps that doesn't sound quite right,
but you get the point). :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Ain't no problem at all. Just build a poop deck.


Ah... well, I stand (or sit) corrected.

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