Small Sailboat wrote:
The problem, as I see it, is that putting in a deck pumpout fitting means
another hole in the boat. And holes in boats are VERY BAD.

The deck core is exposed, the fitting needs to be sealed ,, and who knows
what down the line.

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Not at all a big deal if you do the job right. Get the West System
manual and they will show you how to remove some of the deck core and
replace it with a high density filler that will prevent water from
getting into the core. Sealing the fitting is also no big deal at all.

--Alan Gomes

Small Sailboat wrote:
The problem, as I see it, is that putting in a deck pumpout fitting means
another hole in the boat. And holes in boats are VERY BAD.

The deck core is exposed, the fitting needs to be sealed ,, and who knows
what down the line.

snip

Putting a hole in the boat for the pumpout fitting is not bad at all if
you do it right. Get the West System manual. They'll show you how to do
it so that the core will not be compromised in the future. Very simple.

--Alan Gomes

KLC Lewis wrote:
"Benning Wentworth" wrote in message
news:njFSg.3012$8U2.2787@trndny08...
From what I read here, your reply and your listing as an expert on all
things poop, it seems to me you are in the turd business to make money.
You cavalierly write that a deck fitting is no big deal, just drill it,
and cap it. Sure,,, and when Mr Sailboat owner is facing a wet core deck,
will you be there to fix it?

And, for what. A pump out that almost every boat owner has but never
uses?

This is beyond stupid. To spend all kinds of money, drill holes in the
deck of an old sailboat, so that a holding tank that will never get used
is in place is nutty.

If you are behind my boat and you see a blue bucket and it is being thrown
overboard ......... don't come to close.

This turds for you!

====================

For what it's worth, sealing the core is really not difficult to do. Drill
the hole, apply epoxy to the core and let it soak in, reapplying it over the
fifteen minutes or so it takes to get tacky to ensure that the entire
exposed core surface takes all the epoxy it can, then bed the deck pump-out
fitting carefully.


Better yet, drill the hole, then chuck a bent nail or allen wrench in a
drill and remove a portion of the exposed core. Fill that with a high
density filler. You will then not get any rot in the core. This is not
rocket science. And it's certainly nothing to get hysterical about.

Alan Gomes

Hey Alan ,,, have you ever done this to "your" boat?

It is always easy to talk ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but drilling etc ..

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Gotta go ................ my blue bucket is full.. At this time of year I
throw the waste into the back yard. Keeps the neighbors out of the yard.
One thing though... after the spring thaw, spend lots of time at the
marina.. takes a few weeks for the smell to dissapate.

================


"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
...
KLC Lewis wrote:
"Benning Wentworth" wrote in message
news:njFSg.3012$8U2.2787@trndny08...
From what I read here, your reply and your listing as an expert on all
things poop, it seems to me you are in the turd business to make money.
You cavalierly write that a deck fitting is no big deal, just drill it,
and cap it. Sure,,, and when Mr Sailboat owner is facing a wet core
deck, will you be there to fix it?

And, for what. A pump out that almost every boat owner has but never
uses?

This is beyond stupid. To spend all kinds of money, drill holes in the
deck of an old sailboat, so that a holding tank that will never get used
is in place is nutty.

If you are behind my boat and you see a blue bucket and it is being
thrown overboard ......... don't come to close.

This turds for you!

====================

For what it's worth, sealing the core is really not difficult to do.
Drill the hole, apply epoxy to the core and let it soak in, reapplying it
over the fifteen minutes or so it takes to get tacky to ensure that the
entire exposed core surface takes all the epoxy it can, then bed the deck
pump-out fitting carefully.
Better yet, drill the hole, then chuck a bent nail or allen wrench in a
drill and remove a portion of the exposed core. Fill that with a high
density filler. You will then not get any rot in the core. This is not
rocket science. And it's certainly nothing to get hysterical about.

Alan Gomes

Alan Gomes wrote:

Better yet, drill the hole, then chuck a bent nail or allen wrench in a
drill and remove a portion of the exposed core. Fill that with a high
density filler. You will then not get any rot in the core. This is not
rocket science. And it's certainly nothing to get hysterical about.

That's exactly what I've done - you end up with a very solid leak free
section of deck. Its probably better than most of the other deck
fittings.

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Alan Gomes wrote:

Better yet, drill the hole, then chuck a bent nail or allen wrench in a
drill and remove a portion of the exposed core. Fill that with a high
density filler. You will then not get any rot in the core. This is not
rocket science. And it's certainly nothing to get hysterical about.

That's exactly what I've done - you end up with a very solid leak free
section of deck. Its probably better than most of the other deck
fittings.

Even better: Buy a Rawson 30. No cores to worry about at all. ;-)

Benning Wentworth wrote:
Hey Alan ,,, have you ever done this to "your" boat?

It is always easy to talk ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but drilling etc ..

snip

Yes, I have.
--AG

In article ,
Alan Gomes wrote:

KLC Lewis wrote:

For what it's worth, sealing the core is really not difficult to
do. Drill the hole, apply epoxy to the core and let it soak in,
reapplying it over the fifteen minutes or so it takes to get tacky
to ensure that the entire exposed core surface takes all the epoxy
it can, then bed the deck pump-out fitting carefully.


Better yet, drill the hole, then chuck a bent nail or allen wrench in
a drill and remove a portion of the exposed core. Fill that with a
high density filler. You will then not get any rot in the core. This
is not rocket science. And it's certainly nothing to get hysterical
about.

Even easier, drill a 1/2"-oversized hole just down to the inner skin,
fill with fortified epoxy/resin filler, then drill the hole you want.
The oversized hole will be hidden by what you're attaching, and you're
certain to have fewer voids. (Friends recommend the flat (Forstner?)
bits, but I've had no problem using normal bits as long as I was
careful.)



--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Sailboat wrote:
I have an old sailboat. The head doesn't have a holding tank. It
discharges overboard. I wonder, can I get a holding tank but not drill
through the deck for a pump out? The thought of drilling through my old
deck for a pump out that I will hardly ever use is crazy. But, I would put
a holding tank in to be legal.

Tell me about holding tanks with old heads.

Thanks,


Whatever you do dont put it in the water until you get a holding tank.
If the coast guard catches you with that set up its a stiff fine!!!!

Beth.

Beth wrote:
Sailboat wrote:
I have an old sailboat. The head doesn't have a holding tank. It
discharges overboard. I wonder, can I get a holding tank but not drill
through the deck for a pump out? The thought of drilling through my old
deck for a pump out that I will hardly ever use is crazy. But, I would put
a holding tank in to be legal.

Tell me about holding tanks with old heads.

Thanks,


Whatever you do dont put it in the water until you get a holding tank.
If the coast guard catches you with that set up its a stiff fine!!!!

Only if they catch you using it. As long as the thru-hull is "secured"
(closed and seacock handle wire tied or removed), it's legal.

--
Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/books...ku=90&cat=1304