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claus wrote:
We have a Volvo MD22L engine equipped with a sail drive.

The hull and prop are "supposed to be" protected with:

1) A Large Zinc block attached to the hull just forward of the sail drive
and electrically connected to the engine block through the hull.

2) Round Zinc around the propellor shaft - attached to the sail drive

3) 3 small Zincs attached directly to the propellor

The problem is that the 3 small zincs erode rapidly - sometimes within 2
months - and sometimes within 4 months...no regular pattern.

The other zincs (1 and 2) look brand new after 2 years in the water and
obviously do not protect the propellor at all.

When the all the zincs were installed at the last haul-out 2 years ago I
made sure they were free of any surface oxidation.

I have also installed a Galvanic Isolator in an attempt to alleviate the
problem - and the boat has been inspected for any stray currents and none
found by the Marina staff.

The boat next two ours is a derilict without any maintenance whatsoever -
but is is also hoohed up to the same shorepower circuit as ours. The Marina
staff dioes not think that is the culprit.

Any suggestions?

cvj

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You mention a Galvanic Isolator. Not sure what that is i.e. does it
isolate the shore power earth/ground from the ocean earth/ground of the
boat?

Am no expert on this but when we had a boat survey done, many moons ago
the surveyor seemed most interested in whether some slight corrosion
could be due to electric current from the shore supply going to
ground/earth via our boat.

In other words not 'galvanic' corrosion but that caused by electrical
supply 'leakage' through the metallic parts of our fiberglass boat that
were in the water?

Another way of putting it might be that our boat could providea better
'ground' through its immersed metallics into the seawater than a five
foot ground rod some distance away driven into dryish granular soil!

One answer is apparently to use an 'Isolating transformer'. Each side
of which has its own ground/earth. An isolating transformer can be
quite small if it supplies just a small amount of power for the long
periods that a boat is unattended/unlived in to operate say a small
battery 'refresher' trickle charger and/or one tenth of horsepower tiny
bilge pump. But nothing 'heavy' though, such as a fridge etc..

Suggestion anyway.

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Default HELP: Zinc problem Volvo Sail Drive

Checked the below with the local Volvo Marina Diesel dealer - and his reply
confirms your "bet"

--------------------------quote----------------
I don't have a folding sailboat prop which I can check, but I did check one
of our outdrive props and there is no continuity between the center hub
which fits on the shaft and the actual prop due to a rubber "hub". I believe
the same is true of your prop but the only way to be certain is to check the
continuity of your prop the next time it is out of the water.

On the newer Volvo engines there is no continuity between the engine block
and the saildrive. The ring zinc just forward of the prop protects the
saildrive and only the saildrive. Any other underwater metal object need to
be protected with their own anodes,

-------------------------unquote ------------------------

"Larry" wrote in message
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"claus" wrote in news:1YOdnS4xRIdBtHLZnZ2dnUVZ_q-
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The problem is that the 3 small zincs erode rapidly - sometimes within 2
months - and sometimes within 4 months...no regular pattern.

The other zincs (1 and 2) look brand new after 2 years in the water and
obviously do not protect the propellor at all.



I'd bet the screw is electrically isolated from the saildrive, but I don't
see how. The little zincs are then consumed protecting, by themselves,
the
metal of the screw, with no help from the big zincs on the shaft/drive
itself.

It would be impossible to test this without hauling the boat out and
taking
a meter between screw and shaft.

If the marina or that derelict next door were the problem, it would eat
away ALL the zincs, not just the little ones on the screw.

There has got to be some way the screw is isolated, electrically, from the
other zincs. Does the saildrive have a rubber damper in the hub of the
screw? That would isolate it, right there.



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Default Zinc problem Volvo Sail Drive

I installed a galvanic isolator to protect my saildrives/zincs, and I
believe it works.
I have heard of someone w/ a saildrive who installed a battery disconnect
switch in the ground cable to the engine , which he switched off when docked
or even anchored. Seems to me this is a good idea, but I'd like to hear what
others think of this.

"claus" wrote in message
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We have a Volvo MD22L engine equipped with a sail drive.

The hull and prop are "supposed to be" protected with:

1) A Large Zinc block attached to the hull just forward of the sail drive
and electrically connected to the engine block through the hull.

2) Round Zinc around the propellor shaft - attached to the sail drive

3) 3 small Zincs attached directly to the propellor

The problem is that the 3 small zincs erode rapidly - sometimes within 2
months - and sometimes within 4 months...no regular pattern.

The other zincs (1 and 2) look brand new after 2 years in the water and
obviously do not protect the propellor at all.

When the all the zincs were installed at the last haul-out 2 years ago I
made sure they were free of any surface oxidation.

I have also installed a Galvanic Isolator in an attempt to alleviate the
problem - and the boat has been inspected for any stray currents and none
found by the Marina staff.

The boat next two ours is a derilict without any maintenance whatsoever -
but is is also hoohed up to the same shorepower circuit as ours. The
Marina staff dioes not think that is the culprit.

Any suggestions?

cvj



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