"Harbin Osteen" wrote in
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It was
said that
it gets about 130 miles per gallon in one article that I read. It
would also be great
for some boaters that cruise to undevloped areas. You can fuel it from
your own
fuel tanks, and cruise from your ancorage to explore, or restock your
supplies that
you may have to lug for some distance. This has been a problem for
some who cruise the cannals in Europe, where some barges are large
enough to carry a car, some are not.



I wonder how may "miles-per-centrifugal-clutch" it gets on biodiesel?

I remember centrifugal clutches from many small vehicles. "Self-
consuming" comes to mind.

Note to boaters....it ISN'T street legal in the USA. Point moot.

Those concerned with the environment can reduce emissions to zero by NOT
buying one of these and STAYING HOME. How many are towed on a trailer by
some environazi behind their Ford Expedition?....(c;

Yeah, right....

My nuclear-powered scooter works great on the boats. Folds flat for easy
storage and recharging:
http://tinyurl.com/q7hj6

16 miles at 8mph. Also not street legal, but our cops treat it like a
geriatric electric vehicle so you can ride it on the scooter-friendly
sidewalks without harassment...(c; Recharges in about 3 hours from dead.



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You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Yea Larry, if you are always tied to a dock in the US, you would not
need somthing
like this, and not being street legal would be revelant, but if you are a
long range
cruiser, say crusising Thailand, and your trawler battaries went to crap,
and you had
to pack new ones back to the boat, I would find this bike a lot more useful
than a
electric scooter, and you could jumper the new boat battires to your
scooter, and
it's still not going to make it back.
You may not have a use for this bike, but I posted this here because
some
might find the info useful.

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Harbin Osteen" wrote in
:

It was
said that
it gets about 130 miles per gallon in one article that I read. It
would also be great
for some boaters that cruise to undevloped areas. You can fuel it from
your own
fuel tanks, and cruise from your ancorage to explore, or restock your
supplies that
you may have to lug for some distance. This has been a problem for
some who cruise the cannals in Europe, where some barges are large
enough to carry a car, some are not.



I wonder how may "miles-per-centrifugal-clutch" it gets on biodiesel?

I remember centrifugal clutches from many small vehicles. "Self-
consuming" comes to mind.

Note to boaters....it ISN'T street legal in the USA. Point moot.

Those concerned with the environment can reduce emissions to zero by NOT
buying one of these and STAYING HOME. How many are towed on a trailer by
some environazi behind their Ford Expedition?....(c;

Yeah, right....

My nuclear-powered scooter works great on the boats. Folds flat for easy
storage and recharging:
http://tinyurl.com/q7hj6

16 miles at 8mph. Also not street legal, but our cops treat it like a
geriatric electric vehicle so you can ride it on the scooter-friendly
sidewalks without harassment...(c; Recharges in about 3 hours from dead.



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

"Harbin Osteen" wrote in
:

Yea Larry, if you are always tied to a dock in the US, you would
not
need somthing
like this, and not being street legal would be revelant, but if you
are a long range
cruiser, say crusising Thailand, and your trawler battaries went to
crap, and you had
to pack new ones back to the boat, I would find this bike a lot more
useful than a
electric scooter, and you could jumper the new boat battires to your
scooter, and
it's still not going to make it back.
You may not have a use for this bike, but I posted this here
because
some
might find the info useful.



So, to answer my question, how many miles DOES it get to a centrifugal
clutch? How many dealers are there in Thailand to fix it while I'm crusing
around from bar to bar? Where do I get parts in the US, even, tractor
dealers??...(c;

Oh, by the way, are YOU involved selling this bike?......

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Actually it's a grown up version of the Tote Goat or offroad mini bike.
Lot's of uses, and excuses to buy one for fun
http://users.infoconex.com/~ramrod/tgland.htm

"Eeyore" wrote in
message ...


Harbin Osteen wrote:

http://www.ecorider.us/

What's the purpose of one of those ?

Graham

In alt.energy.homepower MMC wrote:
Actually it's a grown up version of the Tote Goat or offroad mini bike.
Lot's of uses, and excuses to buy one for fun
http://users.infoconex.com/~ramrod/tgland.htm

--Neat site; thanks for the link! FWIW one of the great things about
the Tote Goat is the box-section frame, which provides a *lot* of real
estate for engine hacking. A friend of mine runs a steam power plant in his
as it's got room on board for Propane fuel, flash boiler and a honkin' big
water tank. Not sure what the range is, but it's decidedly low tech and has
a real third world flavor, heh.

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"Steamboat Ed" Haas : Proud to be the
Hacking the Trailing Edge! : family crackpot!
www.nmpproducts.com
---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---

steamer wrote:
In alt.energy.homepower MMC wrote:
Actually it's a grown up version of the Tote Goat or offroad mini bike.
Lot's of uses, and excuses to buy one for fun
http://users.infoconex.com/~ramrod/tgland.htm

--Neat site; thanks for the link! FWIW one of the great things about
the Tote Goat is the box-section frame, which provides a *lot* of real
estate for engine hacking. A friend of mine runs a steam power plant in his
as it's got room on board for Propane fuel, flash boiler and a honkin' big
water tank. Not sure what the range is, but it's decidedly low tech and has
a real third world flavor, heh.

--
"Steamboat Ed" Haas : Proud to be the
Hacking the Trailing Edge! : family crackpot!
www.nmpproducts.com
---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---

Biodiesel is just replacing one type of emission with another - and it
takes a lot of power to harvest/process the stuff. For these types of
purposes, there is an ancient form of power, called human power.
Imagine having a utility bicycle/tricycle on board with appropriate
gearing. ALthough maybe in certain situations probably a bit slower,
it is probably overall faster with no tuning, centrifugal clutches to
maintain, fueling, finding fuel - someone mentioned cruising in far off
places needing to go get batteries. Are you carrying a large tank of
biodiesel on your intercontinental cruises? I reckon a good utility
bicycle would be lighter, easier to stow on board, cleaner, cheaper,
less time consuming, and 98% as useful. Sounds like a good tradeoff to
me.

wrote:

Biodiesel is just replacing one type of emission with another - and it
takes a lot of power to harvest/process the stuff. For these types of
purposes, there is an ancient form of power, called human power.
Imagine having a utility bicycle/tricycle on board with appropriate
gearing. ALthough maybe in certain situations probably a bit slower,
it is probably overall faster with no tuning, centrifugal clutches to
maintain, fueling, finding fuel - someone mentioned cruising in far off
places needing to go get batteries. Are you carrying a large tank of
biodiesel on your intercontinental cruises? I reckon a good utility
bicycle would be lighter, easier to stow on board, cleaner, cheaper,
less time consuming, and 98% as useful. Sounds like a good tradeoff to
me.

No it doesn't.

Graham

wrote:
biodiesel on your intercontinental cruises? I reckon a good utility
bicycle would be lighter, easier to stow on board, cleaner, cheaper,
less time consuming, and 98% as useful. Sounds like a good tradeoff to
me.


Wrong

"Civilization" can be defined as seeking to avoid any form
of physical exertion, whatever, no matter how productive or
healthy.

DSK

wrote:

Biodiesel is just replacing one type of emission with another - and it
takes a lot of power to harvest/process the stuff.

One square mile is 640 acres.
One square mile is 5280 feet by 5280 feet.
A tractor pulling a 30 foot wide disc plow will requi

5280/30 = 176 passes. That's 176 linear miles to plow the entire 640
acres.

Now the next question is, how much horsepower (fuel consumed) to cover
the 176 miles?

And then there are the herbicide/pesticide/fertilizer/harvest passes also.

Take it away Nick.

Snip.....


Biodiesel is just replacing one type of emission with another - and it
takes a lot of power to harvest/process the stuff. For these types of
purposes, there is an ancient form of power, called human power.

Snip....

Yes, it does replace one emmission with another, but it is at least
a closed carbon cycle. You take up carbon when you grow the
crop (and my prefered crop is alge, which will double in 24 to
48 hours) and relese it when burned in combustion.
Human power is great, but not for everything, just as the
diesel bike is not good for everything, but fills a nitch that
could be useful to some.

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SeeYaa Harbin Osteen KG6URO

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