Has anyone done this? It seems like the PVC just contributes to life line
degradation. If so, what was your source for the wire/fittings?

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Capt. JG wrote:
Has anyone done this? It seems like the PVC just contributes to life line
degradation. If so, what was your source for the wire/fittings?

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Hi:

Excellent observation. That white PVC hides all sorts of problems.
I like the ability to visually inspect my wire
BOb

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Capt. JG wrote:
Has anyone done this? It seems like the PVC just contributes to life line
degradation. If so, what was your source for the wire/fittings?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Hi:

Excellent observation. That white PVC hides all sorts of problems.
I like the ability to visually inspect my wire
BOb

It's kinda obvious when you see rust marks on the white PVC. :-)

I've seen some links for boat that advertise they have them, but I can't
seem to find a source.

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I have been looking before to replace my life lines. In Canada, I found at
Canadian Tires, 9 strands Stainless wire labelled aircraft quality. On the
same rack was the same wire with vinyl covering marked $1.49 per foot.

I was ready to buy but I did not have the tools for splicing the (Pelican)
end connectors that hooks on the bow and stern pulpits.

I have seen some sailors using SS U-bolts to secure the connections to the
pulpits and stanchions. Not nautically elegant but safe.

Conversely West Marine are showing (Internet) as showing 304 Stainless Steel
1 X 19 Rigging Wire from $0.79 USD.



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"Bob" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
Has anyone done this? It seems like the PVC just contributes to life
line
degradation. If so, what was your source for the wire/fittings?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Hi:

Excellent observation. That white PVC hides all sorts of problems.
I like the ability to visually inspect my wire
BOb

It's kinda obvious when you see rust marks on the white PVC. :-)

I've seen some links for boat that advertise they have them, but I can't
seem to find a source.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote:
I have been looking before to replace my life lines. In Canada, I
found at Canadian Tires, 9 strands Stainless wire labelled aircraft
quality. On the same rack was the same wire with vinyl covering
marked $1.49 per foot.

I was ready to buy but I did not have the tools for splicing the
(Pelican) end connectors that hooks on the bow and stern pulpits.

I have seen some sailors using SS U-bolts to secure the connections
to the pulpits and stanchions. Not nautically elegant but safe.

The practise in UK is to secure the SS lifelines with a SS shackle at the
pulpit and a cord lashing at the cockpit end. The cockpit end of the wire
terminates about 3 inches short of the stern pulpit with a SS eyebolt and is
lashed with as many turns of polyester (Dacron) cord as appropriate, bearing
in mind that it may be necessary to cut the lifelines with one stroke of a
sharp knife - usually about 6-8 turns is deemed satisfactory.

Dennis.

Dennis Pogson wrote:
wrote:
I have been looking before to replace my life lines. In Canada, I
found at Canadian Tires, 9 strands Stainless wire labelled aircraft
quality. On the same rack was the same wire with vinyl covering
marked $1.49 per foot.

I was ready to buy but I did not have the tools for splicing the
(Pelican) end connectors that hooks on the bow and stern pulpits.

I have seen some sailors using SS U-bolts to secure the connections
to the pulpits and stanchions. Not nautically elegant but safe.

The practise in UK is to secure the SS lifelines with a SS shackle at the
pulpit and a cord lashing at the cockpit end. The cockpit end of the wire
terminates about 3 inches short of the stern pulpit with a SS eyebolt and is
lashed with as many turns of polyester (Dacron) cord as appropriate, bearing
in mind that it may be necessary to cut the lifelines with one stroke of a
sharp knife - usually about 6-8 turns is deemed satisfactory.

Dennis.

Question: I had previously thought that fastening one end of the
lifelines with some kind of non metallic rope LASHING (as is done with
all four lines, two each side of our 30+ year old Westerly Tiger) is to
avoid having a metallic 'shorted turn' around the boat that could
interfere with radio reception/direction finding etc. However the above
suggests it is for quick safe disconnection in an emergency? Or both?
Terry

wrote:
I have been looking before to replace my life lines. In Canada, I found at
Canadian Tires, 9 strands Stainless wire labelled aircraft quality. On the
same rack was the same wire with vinyl covering marked $1.49 per foot.

I was ready to buy but I did not have the tools for splicing the (Pelican)
end connectors that hooks on the bow and stern pulpits.

I have seen some sailors using SS U-bolts to secure the connections to the
pulpits and stanchions. Not nautically elegant but safe.

Conversely West Marine are showing (Internet) as showing 304 Stainless Steel
1 X 19 Rigging Wire from $0.79 USD.


What's that term... 'swaging'??
I had the rigger at the Binnacle swage mine two years ago.
http://ca.binnacle.com/index.php?cPath=409_403

Thanks for the tip.
Not too far from the Binnacle is North Sail. They also do life lines. How
much did the Binnacle charged you for the swaging?
I'll check with them on my next trip, all I have to do is to be careful
about the new rule on the rotary;-)


"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote:
I have been looking before to replace my life lines. In Canada, I found
at Canadian Tires, 9 strands Stainless wire labelled aircraft quality. On
the same rack was the same wire with vinyl covering marked $1.49 per
foot.

I was ready to buy but I did not have the tools for splicing the
(Pelican) end connectors that hooks on the bow and stern pulpits.

I have seen some sailors using SS U-bolts to secure the connections to
the pulpits and stanchions. Not nautically elegant but safe.

Conversely West Marine are showing (Internet) as showing 304 Stainless
Steel 1 X 19 Rigging Wire from $0.79 USD.


What's that term... 'swaging'??
I had the rigger at the Binnacle swage mine two years ago.
http://ca.binnacle.com/index.php?cPath=409_403

I think I will replace mine with plain wire. The Genoa and I rub
against and grab the plain wire shrouds all the time without any sign
of a problem. I took the split PVC covers off the shrouds and was
amazed at the gunk underneath. Can't be good for a metal that needs a
replenishing supply of oxygen to avoid corrosion.

I've heard or seen something somewhere about using some of the new
super low stretch rope for lifelines.
Has anyone heard about that idea?

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Roger Long



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Has anyone done this? It seems like the PVC just contributes to life
line degradation. If so, what was your source for the wire/fittings?

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Roger Long wrote:
I think I will replace mine with plain wire. The Genoa and I rub
against and grab the plain wire shrouds all the time without any sign
of a problem. I took the split PVC covers off the shrouds and was
amazed at the gunk underneath. Can't be good for a metal that needs a
replenishing supply of oxygen to avoid corrosion.

I've heard or seen something somewhere about using some of the new
super low stretch rope for lifelines.
Has anyone heard about that idea?

I have seen many different parts of a boats rigging being replaced with
new high modulus ropes. The multihull world is embracing rope because
of the weight savings. They are certainly strong enough and look good
but the are a couple issues that warrant thought. First of all is the
UV degredation. It is much greater in any rope than in wire and
requires more frequent replacement. The second thing is nicks. Wire
will stand some abuse but a nicked rope will be much weaker. I have
seen a couple boat lose their rigs because of nicks in rope backstays.
Finally the splices in the new ropes are much more challenging and many
require special splices to ensure the strength isn't lost.

It is doable but think about pros and cons first.

Gary